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We're still better than Richmond insist beaten Saints
April 21 2003


St Kilda is a better side than Richmond according to coach Grant Thomas, but the Saints lost today, sit last on the ladder again and the hype is starting to sound increasingly hollow.

Richmond's 17.5 (107) to 11.15 (81) win was its third straight and elevated them to fourth on the AFL ladder while St Kilda fell to last.

After the game, Saints coach Grant Thomas insisted his side was still a finals hope, still rated his side better than Richmond, insisted the club was better off than many others, and made another appeal for patience.

"We set ourselves for this game because we believe we are better than Richmond," Thomas said after the match.

"On any measure I still firmly believe we are a better side."

Clearly the scoreboard and the ladder were not measures that registered with Thomas.

This was the first of four games against struggling opposition at Telstra Dome for the Saints, and with one opportunity lost, their season hinges on upcoming fixtures with Geelong, Western Bulldogs and Carlton.

"We can win the next three games and be four-three," Thomas said.

"The year is absolutely nowhere near finished, we've got truckloads to get out of it.

"I would still rather be in our shoes than a lot of other clubs' shoes."

It was a strange game for the Saints, who gave up a big early lead and then hung in the contest while watching Richmond kick superbly for goal to maintain a buffer of at least 20 points throughout.

The Saints attacked relentlessly in the final term but kicked 2.6 and one out on the full to blow their comeback hopes.

The win was effectively decided in the opening term when Richmond's confidence-fuelled running players were given great latitude and the forwards finished nicely to establish a 21-point quarter time lead.

"(Accuracy) is one area we haven't been able to achieve in our first three games and to put scoreboard pressure on and get reward for our efforts was something we talked about," Richmond coach Danny Frawley said.

In the recent past a Richmond side that got just two goals from tall forwards would have been thrashed, but the Tigers have found more avenues to goal and promise to improve even further when the likes of Brad Ottens and Ben Holland return from injury.

"We're going to get better when we get back some of our structure and can get on the front foot," Frawley said.

"If we can keep that consistency of effort going and we can add to that, it will make my job a little bit easier."

The Tigers were best served by three blonde runners in Mark Coughlan, Kane Johnson and a rejuvenated Greg Tivendale.

For the Saints, much attention was focussed on hyped debutant Brendon Goddard, but it was another first-year player in Luke Ball who shone while Fraser Gehrig was handy at both ends.

-AAP
 
what a totally arroagant statement to make even for a winning coach to say let alone from a coach of the losing side.
the funny thing is thomas hasnt got the score on the board to be arrogant.
lets look at a few facts thommo.
we were missing, holland and ottens compared to a full list you had.
hopes spud keeps this article for our next meeting.

cheers!
 
Originally posted by mellowyellow
St Kilda is a better side than Richmond according to coach Grant Thomas, ... "We set ourselves for this game because we believe we are better than Richmond," Thomas said after the match.

"On any measure I still firmly believe we are a better side."


What's the chances of Spud pasting that little gem on the front of every player's locker before the Round 19 re-match.

Instant ammo.

Thanks Thommo.
 
How bigs that chip on your shoulder Thommo ????/ .. last year when they beat us and Lowe and Harvey turned up at Spuds house at stupid o'clock in the morning Thommos only response was that " I was dissapointed in the 2 players as they should have shown more respect to spud as he is a great bloke ... I dont give a rats about the Richmond Football Club but Spuds a great bloke ..." think he might have been tormented by Richmond supporters as a kid and still carrys the scars ... well if it makes you feel any better chum i wont be sending you a christmas card this year you **** .....oh and might be an idea to carry the chip on your shoulder not in your nose ...geez its a biggun china !!!.........." If he calls me big nose again ...."
 

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He's just talking up his side and trying to instill some self-belief into his players and the club in general, something which they need more then anything else considering the past couple of seasons.

And Thomas has failed to translate any self-belief to his players onto the ground where it matters. They simply don't know how to win - I never felt Richmond were in trouble in the last quarter even though the Saints had it down in their forward line for 80% of it.

What Thomas and the Saints fans fail to grasp is just because you get a zillion high draft picks, mixed with some experienced champions and some quality recruits from other clubs, doesn't necessarily mean you'll have a top side running around week in and week out. They come across to me as if they play like a bunch of individuals as opposed to playing as a team, and that stood out like a beacon today.
 
Originally posted by wagstaff


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What Thomas and the Saints fans fail to grasp is just because you get a zillion high draft picks, mixed with some experienced champions and some quality recruits from other clubs, doesn't necessarily mean you'll have a top side running around week in and week out. They come across to me as if they play like a bunch of individuals as opposed to playing as a team, and that stood out like a beacon today.

Yes, good observation! Exactly the reason for my thread on the main board! Cornflakes doesn't have what it takes to turn this collection of individuals into a champion team.
 
Let Thomas say what he likes coz it's going to bite him on the clacker when they give him the tijuana brass at the end of the year.....:mad: :p
Suffer in ya jocks
A reasonable team with a Corkhead for a coach...:p :p
 
stupid

why thomas made that remark is beyond me...what an idiot.

however...the time will come when st.kilda do click...and they'll carry all before it. maybe soon...maybe next year

message to Thomas....SCOREBOOOOOARD !!!!!!!:D
 

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