Werribee who can beat them

[celtic_pride]

Who gives a fig about the Bendigo bombers.
They won't get anywhere near werribee.

 

[pazza]

Who gives a fig about the Bendigo bombers.
They won't get anywhere near werribee.

On the contrary. Whenever Bendigo Bombers have played Werribee, Bendigo have beaten them more times than the other way around, even when Bendigo were struggling and Werribee were flying.

With both teams flying, who knows what will happen at QEO in July.

 

[Longy413]

Podsiadly is alot more damaging proposition than Callan Beasy and has proven that over the last 3 years in the VFL. Beasy was extremely lucky to play the games he did with Carlton because not one of them was worth a pinch of shi.t

Beasy isn't Bendigo's FF. He spends time there, but rotates through with a number of others. That has been Bendigo's strength, we have a great deal of flexibility. Beasy has the ability to play FF, CHF, Ruck, CHB.

Doering is an excellent player and wins plenty of the pill but is hardly damaging. Hassan at Werribee is electrifying and takes players on.

Doering is incredibly damaging. His foot skills are outstanding, he simply doesn't miss a target. That comment right there shows you up as having a very simplistic and naive view of football.

Throw in young gun Chad O'Sullivan (probably leading the Liston after the first 6 rds) Teagan Henderson, Edward Darcy and Werribee have the cream of the crop when it comes to VFL listed players. Thats why they are on top and they don't look like being beaten. You idiot.

I haven't seen Werribee this season. So it makes it hard to comment. Doering has had at least 4 best on grounds. It wouldn't be to far fetched to believe he would have 12-15 votes already. He is absolutely flying.

It's fine to pump up Werribee, they are on top and deserve to be favourites. But to simply dismiss all other teams in the competition and to not be able to debate the topic at hand and objectively comment on their players shows a great deal of short-sightedness. If you haven't seen Bendigo please reserve judgement until you do.

You might also be interested to know that Bendigo have a significantly better percentage than Werribee and far and away the best defence in terms of points against in the comp.

 

[X_box_X]

No one looks like beating Werribee at the moment. I think it was season 2001, Werribee went 13 games before losing its first game (against Carlton at Optus Oval). The Tigers went on to finish on top the the ladder with two defeats, and they were unfortunately beaten by Geelong at TEAC Oval in the Preliminary Final.

I'm comparing the 2005 Werribee side to the 2001 one. Both extremely dominant sides. I thought Werribee would have gone through the season undefeated in 2001, but I was wrong. I wouldn't be all that surprised if the Tigers fall at the last hurdle, which they have a habit of doing.

Werribee is perhaps the best club at VFL level, and I'm not being biased. At the end of the season, I'm going to try and do a pre-season at Werribee and see what happens from there. It would be better for me to do a pre-season at Werribee than it would Bendigo. I'd get a whole lot more out of doing a pre-season at Chrinside Park.

Werribee > Bendigo.

 

[Longy413]

Werribee > Bendigo.

Based on where you would rather do a preseason?

 

[Kooley]

Beasy isn't Bendigo's FF. He spends time there, but rotates through with a number of others. That has been Bendigo's strength, we have a great deal of flexibility. Beasy has the ability to play FF, CHF, Ruck, CHB.



Doering is incredibly damaging. His foot skills are outstanding, he simply doesn't miss a target. That comment right there shows you up as having a very simplistic and naive view of football.



I haven't seen Werribee this season. So it makes it hard to comment. Doering has had at least 4 best on grounds. It wouldn't be to far fetched to believe he would have 12-15 votes already. He is absolutely flying.

It's fine to pump up Werribee, they are on top and deserve to be favourites. But to simply dismiss all other teams in the competition and to not be able to debate the topic at hand and objectively comment on their players shows a great deal of short-sightedness. If you haven't seen Bendigo please reserve judgement until you do.

You might also be interested to know that Bendigo have a significantly better percentage than Werribee and far and away the best defence in terms of points against in the comp.

Simplistic!

I gave Doering a wrap just said he wasn't as damaging as a player who is prepared to run the lines. Werribee have an abundance of VFL listed players who can win 30 possession accross half back and use it OK. Just trying to make the point that in Hassan at Werribee they have the X factor Bendigo don't have unless you get Lovett back, who is a Esssendon listed player anyway.

As far as Beasy is concerned as a Carlton supporter I saw him play at close hand and have seen him play this year against Nth Ballarat and I don't rate him as highly as Pods. If you read my post carefully instead of making up stuff i was suppose to have written i never wrote that Beasy was just a full -forward. Just once again made the point that if we lined two KPP VFL listed players up against eachother from opposing teams Pods is more value and a better footballer than Beasy. Pods is also an accomplished full-back.

At the end of the day the team that can field as many quality AFL listed players in their sqauds come finals time should win the flag. But if you were rating the the worth of the VFL listed players then Werribee wins quite easily IMO. I'm also a Preston Supporter so i haven't any vested interest in Werribee.

 

[X_box_X]

Based on where you would rather do a preseason?

That's correct. Everyone has an opinion, and my opinion is that I would get more out of doing a pre-season at Werribee than I would at Bendigo. I was born in Werribee and spent a fair portion of my life living there, but there is nothing biased about my opinion.

Werribee is a great club and a fairly successful one. I would prefer training with the best possible players, as it would have more of a positive effect on my football, and I honestly believe there are better players at Werribee than what there are at Bendigo.

Werribee, on and off the field, is a better side than Bendigo. It's been that way for years, and I see no reason why this will change.

 

[marcuz]

Werribee, on and off the field, is a better side than Bendigo. It's been that way for years, and I see no reason why this will change.

It will change becuase a top, professional club with plenty of cash has alligned itself with Bendigo. Bendigo have announced major plans to improve their facilities on the back of this partnership. So off field money wise Bendigo has Werribee covered and on-field the gap is closing. Dont for one second be so cocky to think it will be a walk in the park for your mob.

 

[sainter]

After watching both teams beat us I was far more impressed with Bendigo than Werribee. Perhaps the Tigers were just doing enough to get over the line but they looked far from the unbeatable team that the ladder suggests. Bendigo on the other hand blew us away with a second half of football that was very impressive.

The 12/10 rule in the finals does make things interesting. I know at the Scorpions we've only been able to field a maximum of 7/8 Saints players due to the St Kilda injury list and we've come up against teams with up to 16 or 17 AFL listed opponents. That rule would definitely bring teams back to the field. At the same time, it may be the clubs with their affiliated AFL club in the finals that could benefit the most because they won't have to worry about their players needing to qualify.

 

[Longy413]

Werribee, on and off the field, is a better side than Bendigo. It's been that way for years, and I see no reason why this will change.

Three words. Essendon Football Club.

Essendon has complete control over Bendigo, from finances, to coaching staff.

I'd rather train at Werribee over Bendigo as well. Bendigo is a bloody long way to go. But that doesn't make Werribee a better TEAM.

 

[bogan4life]

Three words. Essendon Football Club.

Essendon has complete control over Bendigo, from finances, to coaching staff.

I'd rather train at Werribee over Bendigo as well. Bendigo is a bloody long way to go. But that doesn't make Werribee a better TEAM.

its good that our young bulldog players and our werribee players get to train more together and become more of a team unlike the bombers

 

[Longy413]

I gave Doering a wrap just said he wasn't as damaging as a player who is prepared to run the lines. Werribee have an abundance of VFL listed players who can win 30 possession accross half back and use it OK. Just trying to make the point that in Hassan at Werribee they have the X factor Bendigo don't have unless you get Lovett back, who is a Esssendon listed player anyway.

You don't need to run the lines when you can find space like Doering does. He sets up blokes who can run the lines and Bendigo have plenty of them. Nash, Dyson, Connaughton etc. I've seen Hassan play in the SANFL, completely different player to Doering, the comparison is useless. Davey runs the lines better than Hodge, but I can tell you who I'd rather have in my team.

As far as Beasy is concerned as a Carlton supporter I saw him play at close hand and have seen him play this year against Nth Ballarat and I don't rate him as highly as Pods. If you read my post carefully instead of making up stuff i was suppose to have written i never wrote that Beasy was just a full -forward. Just once again made the point that if we lined two KPP VFL listed players up against eachother from opposing teams Pods is more value and a better footballer than Beasy. Pods is also an accomplished full-back.

Different players. You shouldn't compare them. It's the comparison I had a problem with, not the ability of Pods. Pods was an Essendon rookie list player, I've seen him play.
Johns will be Bendigo's FF.

At the end of the day the team that can field as many quality AFL listed players in their sqauds come finals time should win the flag. But if you were rating the the worth of the VFL listed players then Werribee wins quite easily IMO.

It's irrelavant. Because at the end of the day they all run out and represent the same club, the same jumper, the same goal. If they are Essendon listed or Bendigo listed is irrelevant.
The better team will win, it may be neither Bendigo or Werribee, but until I see Werribee I will hold my call on who is the better team. But I do have every faith in Bendigo being able to take it up to anyone, our % suggests that we are every chance.

 

[Longy413]

its good that our young bulldog players and our werribee players get to train more together and become more of a team unlike the bombers

You are showing yourself up as a fool here.

Beasy, Blumfield and Doering all train at Essendon as they are Melbourne based.
For the main session each week the whole Bendigo squad trains together and that includes the Essendon listed players.

Know I don't know for sure if the Bulldogs listed players train away from the main list more than once a week, but if they did I would be very suprised as it would be counter-productive to their development.

Bulldogs listed players wouldn't train with Werribee anymore than Essendon players do with Bendigo.

 

[bogan4life]

You are showing yourself up as a fool here.

Beasy, Blumfield and Doering all train at Essendon as they are Melbourne based.
For the main session each week the whole Bendigo squad trains together and that includes the Essendon listed players.

Know I don't know for sure if the Bulldogs listed players train away from the main list more than once a week, but if they did I would be very suprised as it would be counter-productive to their development.

Bulldogs listed players wouldn't train with Werribee anymore than Essendon players do with Bendigo.

we have a lot of werribee players training at the bulldogs and using our gyms.
This always the bulldogs to get a good look at werribee listed players when it comes to the draft

The thing with Werribee/Bulldogs is that the dogs have not taken over werribee and let them run there own club.

Whne its comes to the afl clubn and vfl club coming together i fell it is better that it isnt a takeover like it is in bendigo.
both sides have very good teams but i fell that werribee wil be very hard to beat because of the fact they have very good vfl listed players and the Dogs players who are playing at werribee have been some of the older guys not just young kids

Lovett and lovett Murray will be a huge loss from bendigos flags chances

 

[Longy413]

we have a lot of werribee players training at the bulldogs and using our gyms.
This always the bulldogs to get a good look at werribee listed players when it comes to the draft

There is no difference in the time Essendon players spent training with Bendigo, or Bendigo players spend training at Essendon than what happens at Werribee. The number one focus for an AFL club is the development of their younger players and for that very reason the time they spend training with their VFL club is limited to what is necessary.

Adelaide drafted Hudson from Werribee, you don't have to have a player using your gym to identify talent.

The thing with Werribee/Bulldogs is that the dogs have not taken over werribee and let them run there own club.

Whne its comes to the afl clubn and vfl club coming together i fell it is better that it isnt a takeover like it is in bendigo.s

If Essendon didn't join Bendigo, there is every chance Bendigo would no longer exist. They had not won a game for two years when the merger happened. They barely had a cent in the bank, they couldn't afford footballs, training gear etc.

Lovett and lovett Murray will be a huge loss from bendigos flags chances

Lovett hasn't played a single game for Bendigo this season. From memory I think Lovett-Murray has played two. They are no loss, because we haven't had them.

both sides have very good teams but i fell that werribee wil be very hard to beat because of the fact they have very good vfl listed players and the Dogs players who are playing at werribee have been some of the older guys not just young kids

Of course Werribee will be hard to beat, they are on top of the ladder. But Bendigo's % suggest that we aren't that far behind them. Bendigo like Werribee has some very good senior VFL listed players as well as some very exciting young AFL talent.

 

[bogan4life]

Of course Werribee will be hard to beat, they are on top of the ladder. But Bendigo's % suggest that we aren't that far behind them. Bendigo like Werribee has some very good senior VFL listed players as well as some very exciting young AFL talent.

i have seen a lot of werribee this year and they seem to take there foot of the peddal when they no that the game is won
these 2 for the Gf

 

[pazza]

i have seen a lot of werribee this year and they seem to take there foot of the peddal when they no that the game is won
these 2 for the Gf

They do seem to be a class above the likes of the Bullants and North Ballarat to name but 2 of those beneath them, but in the 8.

Just on the 8, it would also seem to be settled and that there doesn't appear to be a side of the 5 outside of the 8, that look like doing enough to get in.

You can basically say Williamstown, Geelong and Tasmania are virtually all assured of not making it, even now.

 

[bogan4life]

Werribee seeme dto take there foot of the pedal on saturday

bendigo by all reports where shocking still carnt find a team that will nknock them of any time soon

The 3 injurys to the dogs will hurt them but there depth is very good

would be about $2.50 for the flag ATM

 

[bogan4life]

well there 9 and 0 will any one beat them?

 

[onslaught]

Sandy will.

 

[Barge]

I would have thought a $2.50 flag favourite would have beat the bottom of the ladder Devils by more than 3 goals, even allowing for the downpour in Hobart yesterday!

As for Doering, take no notice of any stats you hear from his games. I remember the other year when he played for the Devils, he'd take the kick outs, kick it to himself and then kick from 1 foot outside of the goalsquare. Why? Because you don't get kick outs credited as a kick, unless you play on from the square!

 

[Longy413]

As for Doering, take no notice of any stats you hear from his games. I remember the other year when he played for the Devils, he'd take the kick outs, kick it to himself and then kick from 1 foot outside of the goalsquare. Why? Because you don't get kick outs credited as a kick, unless you play on from the square!

Doering very rarely takes the kick-outs for Bendigo.

 

[finders]

The Zebras will be the only team to have a chance of beating them - depending on how the Dees are travelling with injuries.
And remember Sandringham have a sensational strike rate in GFs since 1985 they have been in 7 GFs and won 6 of them

 

[Kooley]

I would have thought a $2.50 flag favourite would have beat the bottom of the ladder Devils by more than 3 goals, even allowing for the downpour in Hobart yesterday!

As for Doering, take no notice of any stats you hear from his games. I remember the other year when he played for the Devils, he'd take the kick outs, kick it to himself and then kick from 1 foot outside of the goalsquare. Why? Because you don't get kick outs credited as a kick, unless you play on from the square!

If Tassie can't put up a decent fight against a any opposition on their home ground in ******** conditions then there is something wrong. The VFL is a very even competition and on their day with things going their way Tassie could knock off anyside. A 3 goal win to Werribee in Tassie in ordinary conditions is a pretty good result for Werribee I would have thought.

 

[bogan4life]

Yet again Werribee win will it happen this year?