what do you think?

[mojo31]

clayton sticks to the recurit the best, trade for needs philosphy, so at some stage, we have to trade excess midfielders for KPP. birss, b.murph and power fit that bill and I rate them in that order.

what point is there i having a pick in the PSD? why bother turning down lances demands and then wasting your PSD pick on meeting them later and having a disgruntled player on your hands?

Lance has not made any demands. There are no contract talks. The club will wait until this week is over and see what Lance wants to do. What other offers comes his way and if he thinks a new club is the way to go.
He is disgruntled. He is playing his best football in 5 years right now and is fit and injury free. We have a few marking targets up forward and he is playing back. He might prefer to play forward and get better delivery. It is up to him.

I think you see it as a favour for your club to take Lance of our hands. Which is okay to think but he is the least of our problems. If you dont do a good job of convincing Lance and Carlton that he should be at the Dogs then he wont be coming there.

Pick 26 and fringe players such as Power who you might very well delist anyway is not going to get it done. Birss might but unlikely. Richmond and Melb are also interested. If Birss and pick 26 is the very best offer for Lance from a club then I would be extremely surprised.
Remember Eade is safe in his job but other coaches might not be and look to get a player like Lance to improve there chances of keeping there job.
Clubs do funny things when under pressure and coterie groups baying for blood and changes.

 

[stefoid]

Lance has not made any demands. There are no contract talks. The club will wait until this week is over and see what Lance wants to do. What other offers comes his way and if he thinks a new club is the way to go.
He is disgruntled. He is playing his best football in 5 years right now and is fit and injury free. We have a few marking targets up forward and he is playing back. He might prefer to play forward and get better delivery. It is up to him.

I think you see it as a favour for your club to take Lance of our hands. Which is okay to think but he is the least of our problems. If you dont do a good job of convincing Lance and Carlton that he should be at the Dogs then he wont be coming there.

Pick 26 and fringe players such as Power who you might very well delist anyway is not going to get it done. Birss might but unlikely. Richmond and Melb are also interested. If Birss and pick 26 is the very best offer for Lance from a club then I would be extremely surprised.
Remember Eade is safe in his job but other coaches might not be and look to get a player like Lance to improve there chances of keeping there job.
Clubs do funny things when under pressure and coterie groups baying for blood and changes.

I thought whitnal has rejected a reduced salary, 2 year offer from you guys already this year?

As for whitnals trade value, what would you expect? this years draft apparently has no sure bets (according to Colin wisbey), and falls away after the top 7 or so. even if you secured a richmond or melbourne 1st round pick plus a hack player (who would they discard that you could use?) you wouldnt be getting an out-of-the-box draftee. in fact you might not draft a decent player at all. birss is at least a decent player ready to play, and at 20yo, is not at odds with a youth policy.

 

[mojo31]

I thought whitnal has rejected a reduced salary, 2 year offer from you guys already this year?

As for whitnals trade value, what would you expect? this years draft apparently has no sure bets (according to Colin wisbey), and falls away after the top 7 or so. even if you secured a richmond or melbourne 1st round pick plus a hack player (who would they discard that you could use?) you wouldnt be getting an out-of-the-box draftee. in fact you might not draft a decent player at all. birss is at least a decent player ready to play, and at 20yo, is not at odds with a youth policy.

Birss is 22 not 20. Lance has not rejected any deals from Carlton. There are no deals. He will wait until the season is over and then see. He will be on reduced money of course. Most likely a 300k a year 2 season deal.

Depends how much Melb and Richmond want Lance as to what they are prepared to trade for him. The draft is never 100% certain anyway. A pick 15 this year is probably worth a pick 20 next year.
We would be looking at a draft pick and a player who makes the team next year. Bearing in mind our list will be a fair bit better next year.
Birss probably makes the list. Power, B Murphy would not.