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Is it just me or does Dan24 have some mental difficulties. All he is worried about is the past. Think of the future Dan. Rd.17, Richmond vs. Essendon. Think of that, not 93 or last year. Richmond always serve it up to Essendon. They are desperate to win to make top 4 and are a tougher side than yours. Your forms been down lately, so I'd be shaking in my boots if I were you.

Stop being so feral.
 
Yes Angelina, I agree with you. What a fantastic person you are. I thought that nobody other than me was aware of his problems but it seems I am not alone. Dan is an absolute disgrace to all football supporters and is all Essendon cockiness and arrogance. By the way Dan, if you are reading this, I am NOT threatened by Essendon. Who would be? Nobody, because all you are is a bunch of black and red trashy dirty filthy foolish arrogant disgusting sewerwaste scum.

That, my fool, is the FINAL say.
 
Isn't this wonderfull having two such "refined" supporters gracing this forum. Such incitefull views so elequentley relayed to us all. We are honoured by your posts. :p

"Richmond always serve it up to Essendon", pitty they haven't beaten us for 3 years. "Your forms been down lately", yeah 16 straight wins, Sheed's should call a crisis meeting. "Stop living in the past" no worries, like you Carlscum fans never mention '99 prelim.

Hey Big Ears Barb, when are you next on the Footy Show?


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Well, gee...a couple of Carlton fans who have been on this forum for something like five minutes and start telling everyone else how they should act. Refined? Bollocks. It sounds more like arrogance to me.

For all the pisstaking that Dan24 cops on this board for some of the things he posts, I'd miss him if he wasn't here. And you have to admire someone who has the balls to stand behind his ideas no matter how much the rest of us rubbish him.
 

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Yeah fair point SB

Dan24 does crap on a fair bit, however he's entitled to express his opinion (like everyone else!) and if he can back up his arguments and stick to his guns then more power to him.

Still doesn't mean I agree with all he says!!

Cheers

Gonzo
 
Here Here Shinboners

Its just so typical of Carlton fans to waltz into something, galumf around making stupid and boorish comments and then they wonder why everyone hates them ?

Listen BigEars and Angelina its great to have some Bluebaggers on the forum, I hope you stick around, but leave Danny alone.

We all agree the guy can't take his hand off it but so what ? - His ideas are interesting and well thought out and he has the guts to keep taking criticism while still posting threads.

I, for one, believe BigFooty wouldn't be half as much fun as it is without Danny Boy.
 
Yeah. Richmond rule and they will give it all they've got.
 
Gee, I don't know what to say.

Nice to see the Carlscum supporters are all appearing now after 11 straight wins. Where were they when they were struggling ? Oh, for a Carlton supporter, "struggling" means having won 7 or 8 in a row. They must think 11 sraight wins is "standard" for their club.

Still, good to have them on here. We need a bit of the parochial footy chest beating that only Carlton supporters can provide.
 
I admire you DAN24

you have basically everyone against you in this website yet you dont take it to heart you just keep posting !!


I dont mind but its the essays that bother me if they were shorter I would read most of them


cheers !!
 
Only the vocal minority are against me.

There are at least 30 or 40 posters on here who are NOT against me.

Anyway, I think in principle, everyone agrees. In principle. It's a bit difficult to logically argue against and make a point. It's easy for me, becasue what I argue makes sense.

I suppose the people who are agaianst me didn't vote for the GST either. The GST is no big deal, just like the things I argue against are no big deal (i.e top spot).

People need to be more open minded. Once things are implemented, its amazing how easy peple come around. And I firmly believe that applies to most people on here. They are no different to the general public. Once something new is implemented, they will accept it......... just like the GST
 
Nothing like a bit of political debate.

I do not agree with a lot of your opinions Dan, now including the fact that people will gradually accept the GST, but I respect what you have to say.

Unlike fools like Mike Sheehan, Robert Walls, Malcolm Blight, Stan Alves and now Trevor Grant, who like nothing more than to sink the boot in when a team is down.

Dan, just to take the focus of you for a moment, I just want to refer back to your thoughts on the role of a clubs culture again. Trevor Grant's article in the Herald-Sun is a classic reason why we may struggle to shake off our tag as an under-achieving side. He conveniently quoted the view of Stan Alves throughout the article (who obviously has NO grudge against the club) to repeatedly belittle the history of our club.
Our side has received basically no credit for last nights performance, mainly just criticised for not performing earlier under Tim Watson. According to Triple M, Justin Leppitsch was very closed to committing himself to becoming a saint but after viewing our match against the hawks did not want to risk coming to a side like ours. My point is that if we do suffer from a unsuccessful culture, we may struggle to overcome it like you said last time, because of the media.
 
Saninter,

Too true. Why would they write an article so negative ? I read it, and really, an article like that serves no purpose. We are all aware of St.Kildas history, and we don't need it shoved down our throats.

I think sports writers should concentrate on HOW to do things, or WHY things are, rather than just reciting negative aspects of the club.

I must admit, I do find it rather ironic that in the year 2000, which is the "numeric" symbol of the future and new hope, we find the leagues two most successful clubs Calrlton and Essendon at the top, and the most un-sucessful at the bottom........still.

So much for the new century offereing a new hope, eh !

Seriously though, as I mentioned earlier, perhaps the "culture" can be attributed to a "success breeds success" scenario. Carlton and Essendon players are fully aware when they pull on the jumper that they will be expected at some point in their careers to play in a premiership.

Perhaps, this makes those players aspire to be the best they can be. Perhaps if that same player were to play for the Saints, they would still have the same ability but maybe theere wouldn't be that "certain something" that makes them the best player they can be.

I know you think it's all total crap, but when you can't "measure" something, it leaves us to makes thss judgements.

The question is how to turn it around ? I suggest look at a clubs that has had similar failure and have managed to turn it around........North Melbourne and Hawthorn. Use them as models.

Now, if my assupmtions are correct, why wouldn't a North Melbourne player in the early 70's think the same way a St.Kilda player deos now ? By that I mean, back then a North player perhaps wouldn't aspire to be the best they could be, because they weren't expectd to. How then did the club turn it around ? How did they get the players thinking differently. Once again, I'm not talking about about certain players here, I'm talking, generally.

I think North, and Hawthorn in particular were keen to "make up" for past failures and set the win-loss record straight. Perhaps it was a "mission statement" or some general aim that the club sets, but I know Hawthorn loved beating Collingwood to make up for literally decades and decades of failures against them.

Perhaos St.Kilda should adopt that line of thinking,. Perhaps they should adopt a mission statement, stating that they are sick of losing. Lets make up for it, and be a CONSISTNENTLY successful side. Don't be proud of the clubs past. Use it as motivation, not a source of celebration.

You may say, that the Saints already feel that way. I don't believe so. I believe St.Kilda's history is often laughed at, even by the club itself. A source of pride, in that "we can live through anything". Know what I mean ? The unsuccessful history is celebrated to an extent. Well, not celebrated, but you know wnat I mean.

North and Hawthorn chose to completely ignore their early failed history and be HELL-BENT on CREATING their own successful history. I don't think the Saints have, or have ever had this mind-set.

They new coach should seek Ron Barassi and John Kennedy, and ask them how they managed to turn it around. Not just through the players, but through the philospophys they intwined in the club that are still present today.

if I were the Saints, I would not be proud of their history. id' be hell-bent on making up for it, and make up for it big-time.
 

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well we all know that i back up dan24 most times and i've got to say that we certainly stuck it up the tigers yesterday, but really (and here Comes the arrogant part) we can't wait fot the round 20 clash with the blues cause we know we are gonna show them who's resting where on the ladder. As for the bluebaggers showing up this late in the season they probably havent been able to find this website until now..... we all know the carlton mob are a little on the slow side just look at that fat woman they have on the footy show all the time
 
Good point Dan.

I mean, Trevor Grant reflects on an alleged incident in 1939 when we celebrated with champagne or some crap.

I do agree with your thoughts on club culture and that is why I brought it up again. I just think that it plays a far smaller role than you.

As for changing the culture, I read with interest a few days ago that the younger players at St Kilda have just formed their own club called the 'young guns'. Apparently they have a mission statement and all the young players are members. They have regular meetings and I think this could be the beginning of a change of culture.

I attend most of our VFL games as well and it is interesting that almost every senior player that had played the day before are all there supporting the seconds side. Apart from a successful history, I think it is very important that the players get along well with each other and this seems to be happening now.

Dan, I think it is no coincidence that the more affluent teams historically have been the ones to develop a successful culture. It may be hard to believe but only last year did St Kilda invest over a million dollars in setting up video analysis equipment. Things that most teams have been taking for granted this year.

Forgetting about our on field results this year (which is quite for easy for me), our club is in a healthy state of the field. We have posted profits for the past years and depending on deserved compensation from the AFL for factors out of a control should be able to break even this year.

It is just my belief that what happens in the past is history and does not play a large factor in what happens today. As for you claiming that we may be proud of our history, you are probably right. I have to admit that I am proud of the fact that we have survived so well with such a long history of under-achieving. But our 1966 grand final victory is arguably one of the best remembered of all time and I don't think it is neccessarily that bad a thing to live on the back of this success because it is club folklore.

Like the club, I think Wayne Brittain has the best credentials to take over. Aside from that, I would love to see John Elliott pay for his comments that he made about us. But with all seriousness, I do not think the future is all that bad. We will have the first two draft picks, many good youngsters and hopefully the opportunity to pick up a top uncontracted player.
 
Well Dan i think your alright even if you do support my most hated team. And no its not beacause youve won 17 straight, you know fine well the history behind the dons and the coasters :)
 
Originally posted by Shinboners:
For all the pisstaking that Dan24 cops on this board for some of the things he posts, I'd miss him if he wasn't here. And you have to admire someone who has the balls to stand behind his ideas no matter how much the rest of us rubbish him.
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Awwwwwww, isn't that sweet. I'd miss you too Shin man. Thanx for the compliment about my balls. :D
 
Originally posted by Angelina4:
Think of the future Dan. Rd.17, Richmond vs. Essendon. Think of that, not 93 or last year. Richmond always serve it up to Essendon. They are desperate to win to make top 4 and are a tougher side than yours. Your forms been down lately, so I'd be shaking in my boots if I were you.

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Yeah, shaking all the way to a 101 point win. Ha ha ha.....HA HA HA HA
 

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Dan
Can I ask why you are opening the old topics, are you trying to prove a point or something. :confused:

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Sandie,

A lot of the stuff that we all talk about has been mentioned 3 or 4 times in old topics. So why not bring out the original? What's the big deal anyway? Respond to the topics that interest you.
 
I like this topic. I fact I like anything that rock 'n rolls.
 
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