Opinion Where do Gawn, Petracca, and Oliver rank in our all-time greats?

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Flower will always be the best I've seen. Was only a young fella, but he was the most skilful player I've ever seen in the Red n blue. I'd rate my top 10 as the following...

1. Flower
2. Neitz
3. Trac
4. Gawn
5. Oliver
6. Stynes
7. Lyon
8. Jones
9. Jakovich
10. Schwartz
Flower could handball either hand, on the move, whist dodging traffic, and then blind-turn and snap the goal from the boundary.

Handball either hand at 100%
Kick off either foot at 100%
Bounce the ball on the run with either hand. And was one of the best, most reliable kicks you would ever want to see.
 
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Pretty sure reading this board that Oliver is a stat padding turn over merchant, Trac is meh and hasn't Gawn retired

Oh yeah and sack Goodwin, can't coach

Pretty much sums up MFC board 2023
 
Pretty sure reading this board that Oliver is a stat padding turn over merchant, Trac is meh and hasn't Gawn retired

Oh yeah and sack Goodwin, can't coach

All valid points, especially the Goodwin part, thanks for sharing
 
Reckon they were super close but Whelan did those awesome rugby tackles where he'd clamp the top of a guys legs and just ******* tip them and murder them. Would be 4 weeks a piece these days.
Would have been de registered for his hits on Ball and Hird. Ball especially because of the way he looked after it
 
Winning a flag with a bog ruckman happens far more often than it does without a gun forward. You could argue Fritch was our FF that day also. I said FF, not KPF.
That’s because there aren’t many star ruckman over the years. Plenty of star forwards. Easier to be a star FF than a star ruckman
 
Had a crack at ordering all the players I’ve seen play since 1993. Ducks

  1. Gawn
  2. Petracca
  3. Oliver
  4. Lyon
  5. Neitz
  6. Stynes
  7. Farmer
  8. T Viney
  9. Tingay
  10. May
  11. Yze
  12. Jones
  13. J McDonald
  14. J Viney
  15. Robertson
  16. Schwarz
  17. White
  18. Jakovich
  19. B Lovett
  20. Green
  21. Obst
  22. Hibberd
  23. Fritsch
  24. Lever
  25. Frawley
  26. Johnstone
  27. Bruce
  28. Davey
  29. Vince
  30. S Febey
  31. Jetta
  32. N Brown
  33. Whelan
  34. Salem
  35. G Lovett
  36. Powell
  37. Woewodin
  38. J Rivers
  39. T McDonald
  40. Langdon
  41. Brayshaw
  42. Prymke
  43. Moloney
  44. Wight
  45. K Pickett
  46. McLean
  47. Bizzell
  48. Ingerson
  49. Hogan
  50. Jurrah
  51. Jamar
  52. M Febey
  53. Garlett
  54. Lovell
  55. Ward
  56. Harmes
  57. Sylvia
  58. Melksham
  59. Jackson
  60. Dyson
  61. Leoncelli
  62. Wheatley
  63. Watts
  64. Seecamp
  65. Holland
  66. Shanahan
  67. Vardy
  68. Kowal
  69. Charles
  70. Cross
  71. Thompson
  72. Grimes
  73. Lewis
  74. A McDonald
  75. Rigoni
  76. Neal-Bullen
  77. Petty
  78. Miller
  79. Pedersen
  80. Simmonds
  81. Spargo
  82. Trengove
  83. Hopgood
  84. Bowey
  85. Jordon
  86. Tyson
  87. Morton
  88. Mitch Clark
  89. Dunn
  90. Frost
  91. T Rivers
  92. Grinter
  93. Howe
  94. vandenBerg
  95. Rohde
  96. Walsh
  97. Hunt
  98. Kent
  99. Jolly
  100. Pike
  101. S Smith
  102. B Brown
  103. Irving
  104. Petterd
  105. Martin
  106. Grundy
  107. Van Rooyen
  108. Nettelbeck
  109. Carroll
  110. Scully
  111. B Pickett
  112. Hannan
  113. Garland
  114. Sparrow
  115. Godfrey
  116. Weideman
  117. Dawes
  118. Bate
  119. Bartram
  120. Bail
  121. Read
  122. McKenzie
  123. Yeats
  124. L Hunter
  125. Lamprill
  126. Norrish
  127. Turley
  128. B Stretch
  129. Tomlinson
  130. Collins
  131. J Wagner
  132. McVee
  133. O McDonald
  134. Tapscott
  135. Wonaeamirri
  136. Terlich
  137. Kennedy
  138. Dunstan
  139. Rodan
  140. A Nicholson
  141. Grgic
  142. Hilton
  143. Healy
  144. Ferguson
  145. Bugg
  146. Lockhart
  147. Broadbridge
  148. Chisholm
  149. M Jones
  150. D Nicholson
  151. Byrnes
  152. Warnock
  153. MacDonald
  154. Hore
  155. Lamb
  156. Cheney
  157. Gilbert
  158. Bell
  159. Lumumba
  160. Gysberts
  161. J Bennell
  162. Chandler
  163. C Wagner
  164. Beams
  165. Heffernan
  166. Motlop
  167. Smoker
  168. Evans
  169. Kennedy-Harris
  170. Bedford
  171. Clarkson
  172. Sullivan
  173. Armstrong
  174. M Newton
  175. Sampson
  176. J Smith
  177. C Johnson
  178. Maric
  179. H Bennell
  180. Preuss
  181. P Johnson
  182. Williams
  183. Doyle
  184. Cuthbertson
  185. T Smith
  186. M Brown
  187. Bishop
  188. Cook
  189. Ellis
  190. Magner
  191. Valenti
  192. Buckley
  193. B Newton
  194. Blease
  195. Toumpas
  196. Pyman
  197. Molloy
  198. Spencer
  199. O’Brien
  200. Fitzpatrick
  201. Strauss
  202. Baker
  203. Gaspar
  204. Longmuir
  205. Sellar
  206. Riley
  207. Clisby
  208. Dunkley
  209. Schache
  210. Norman
  211. Bennett
  212. Turner
  213. Giorgiou
  214. Tynan
  215. Bode
  216. L Newton
  217. N Smith
  218. Pitt
  219. Keilty
  220. Bradly
  221. Ormond-Allen
  222. Ottens
  223. Pesch
  224. Meesen
  225. Maynard
  226. Funcke
  227. M White
  228. Couch
  229. Lamaro
  230. Laurie
  231. McHardy
  232. Pickering
  233. Robins
  234. Polley
  235. Grant
  236. Barry
  237. Michie
  238. Donald Cockatoo-Collins
  239. Hughes
  240. Kolodjashnij
  241. Moorcroft
  242. Goodwin
  243. Michael Clark
  244. McNamara
  245. Heppell
  246. Gillies
  247. Davis
  248. C Hunter
  249. David Cockatoo-Collins
  250. Campbell
  251. Weetra
 

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Had a crack at ordering all the players I’ve seen play since 1993. Ducks

  1. Gawn
  2. Petracca
  3. Oliver
  4. Lyon
  5. Neitz
  6. Stynes
  7. Farmer
  8. T Viney
  9. Tingay
  10. May
  11. Yze
  12. Jones
  13. J McDonald
  14. J Viney
  15. Robertson
  16. Schwarz
  17. White
  18. Jakovich
  19. B Lovett
  20. Green
  21. Obst
  22. Hibberd
  23. Fritsch
  24. Lever
  25. Frawley
  26. Johnstone
  27. Bruce
  28. Davey
  29. Vince
  30. S Febey
  31. Jetta
  32. N Brown
  33. Whelan
  34. Salem
  35. G Lovett
  36. Powell
  37. Woewodin
  38. J Rivers
  39. T McDonald
  40. Langdon
  41. Brayshaw
  42. Prymke
  43. Moloney
  44. Wight
  45. K Pickett
  46. McLean
  47. Bizzell
  48. Ingerson
  49. Hogan
  50. Jurrah
  51. Jamar
  52. M Febey
  53. Garlett
  54. Lovell
  55. Ward
  56. Harmes
  57. Sylvia
  58. Melksham
  59. Jackson
  60. Dyson
  61. Leoncelli
  62. Wheatley
  63. Watts
  64. Seecamp
  65. Holland
  66. Shanahan
  67. Vardy
  68. Kowal
  69. Charles
  70. Cross
  71. Thompson
  72. Grimes
  73. Lewis
  74. A McDonald
  75. Rigoni
  76. Neal-Bullen
  77. Petty
  78. Miller
  79. Pedersen
  80. Simmonds
  81. Spargo
  82. Trengove
  83. Hopgood
  84. Bowey
  85. Jordon
  86. Tyson
  87. Morton
  88. Mitch Clark
  89. Dunn
  90. Frost
  91. T Rivers
  92. Grinter
  93. Howe
  94. vandenBerg
  95. Rohde
  96. Walsh
  97. Hunt
  98. Kent
  99. Jolly
  100. Pike
  101. S Smith
  102. B Brown
  103. Irving
  104. Petterd
  105. Martin
  106. Grundy
  107. Van Rooyen
  108. Nettelbeck
  109. Carroll
  110. Scully
  111. B Pickett
  112. Hannan
  113. Garland
  114. Sparrow
  115. Godfrey
  116. Weideman
  117. Dawes
  118. Bate
  119. Bartram
  120. Bail
  121. Read
  122. McKenzie
  123. Yeats
  124. L Hunter
  125. Lamprill
  126. Norrish
  127. Turley
  128. B Stretch
  129. Tomlinson
  130. Collins
  131. J Wagner
  132. McVee
  133. O McDonald
  134. Tapscott
  135. Wonaeamirri
  136. Terlich
  137. Kennedy
  138. Dunstan
  139. Rodan
  140. A Nicholson
  141. Grgic
  142. Hilton
  143. Healy
  144. Ferguson
  145. Bugg
  146. Lockhart
  147. Broadbridge
  148. Chisholm
  149. M Jones
  150. D Nicholson
  151. Byrnes
  152. Warnock
  153. MacDonald
  154. Hore
  155. Lamb
  156. Cheney
  157. Gilbert
  158. Bell
  159. Lumumba
  160. Gysberts
  161. J Bennell
  162. Chandler
  163. C Wagner
  164. Beams
  165. Heffernan
  166. Motlop
  167. Smoker
  168. Evans
  169. Kennedy-Harris
  170. Bedford
  171. Clarkson
  172. Sullivan
  173. Armstrong
  174. M Newton
  175. Sampson
  176. J Smith
  177. C Johnson
  178. Maric
  179. H Bennell
  180. Preuss
  181. P Johnson
  182. Williams
  183. Doyle
  184. Cuthbertson
  185. T Smith
  186. M Brown
  187. Bishop
  188. Cook
  189. Ellis
  190. Magner
  191. Valenti
  192. Buckley
  193. B Newton
  194. Blease
  195. Toumpas
  196. Pyman
  197. Molloy
  198. Spencer
  199. O’Brien
  200. Fitzpatrick
  201. Strauss
  202. Baker
  203. Gaspar
  204. Longmuir
  205. Sellar
  206. Riley
  207. Clisby
  208. Dunkley
  209. Schache
  210. Norman
  211. Bennett
  212. Turner
  213. Giorgiou
  214. Tynan
  215. Bode
  216. L Newton
  217. N Smith
  218. Pitt
  219. Keilty
  220. Bradly
  221. Ormond-Allen
  222. Ottens
  223. Pesch
  224. Meesen
  225. Maynard
  226. Funcke
  227. M White
  228. Couch
  229. Lamaro
  230. Laurie
  231. McHardy
  232. Pickering
  233. Robins
  234. Polley
  235. Grant
  236. Barry
  237. Michie
  238. Donald Cockatoo-Collins
  239. Hughes
  240. Kolodjashnij
  241. Moorcroft
  242. Goodwin
  243. Michael Clark
  244. McNamara
  245. Heppell
  246. Gillies
  247. Davis
  248. C Hunter
  249. David Cockatoo-Collins
  250. Campbell
  251. Weetra
Chandler below Dan Nicholson is just plain rude, JK. When Nicholson kicked the ball, it felt like he was LARPing his own version of Black Hawk Down, such was the horizontal rotation of the thing.

Good effort, however. Defies belief that there is an argument for five players being worse than Tom G*****s over the last 30 years though. Genuinely felt like we plucked a guy from the cheer squad as a sort of matchday marketing initiative when we played him.
 
I was expecting that list to stop at 10, then 20 , then I said there is no way Johnny went beyond 50...but then I just kept scrolling and scrolling 😂
Maybe its time for another Melbourne player phantom draft.
 
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Maybe its time for another Melbourne player phantom draft.
BIG TIME.

I've been thinking about this. Really enjoyed the last one, and in hindsight would have made many selections differently. Very many player in the current generation would also seem more appealing.

Would people be interested in this?

EDIT: For context:

2015 - all-time MFC history draft:

2021 - 1990-2020 MFC draft:
 
BIG TIME.

I've been thinking about this. Really enjoyed the last one, and in hindsight would have made many selections differently. Very many player in the current generation would also seem more appealing.

Would people be interested in this?

EDIT: For context:

2015 - all-time MFC history draft:

2021 - 1990-2020 MFC draft:
Sign me up. Could be a good activity for the bye week (or whenever, really).
 
BIG TIME.

I've been thinking about this. Really enjoyed the last one, and in hindsight would have made many selections differently. Very many player in the current generation would also seem more appealing.

Would people be interested in this?

EDIT: For context:

2015 - all-time MFC history draft:

2021 - 1990-2020 MFC draft:
Can we make it a reverse draft involving mediocre players?
 
Had a crack at ordering all the players I’ve seen play since 1993. Ducks

  1. Gawn
  2. Petracca
  3. Oliver
  4. Lyon
  5. Neitz
  6. Stynes
  7. Farmer
  8. T Viney
  9. Tingay
  10. May
  11. Yze
  12. Jones
  13. J McDonald
  14. J Viney
  15. Robertson
  16. Schwarz
  17. White
  18. Jakovich
  19. B Lovett
  20. Green
  21. Obst
  22. Hibberd
  23. Fritsch
  24. Lever
  25. Frawley
  26. Johnstone
  27. Bruce
  28. Davey
  29. Vince
  30. S Febey
  31. Jetta
  32. N Brown
  33. Whelan
  34. Salem
  35. G Lovett
  36. Powell
  37. Woewodin
  38. J Rivers
  39. T McDonald
  40. Langdon
  41. Brayshaw
  42. Prymke
  43. Moloney
  44. Wight
  45. K Pickett
  46. McLean
  47. Bizzell
  48. Ingerson
  49. Hogan
  50. Jurrah
  51. Jamar
  52. M Febey
  53. Garlett
  54. Lovell
  55. Ward
  56. Harmes
  57. Sylvia
  58. Melksham
  59. Jackson
  60. Dyson
  61. Leoncelli
  62. Wheatley
  63. Watts
  64. Seecamp
  65. Holland
  66. Shanahan
  67. Vardy
  68. Kowal
  69. Charles
  70. Cross
  71. Thompson
  72. Grimes
  73. Lewis
  74. A McDonald
  75. Rigoni
  76. Neal-Bullen
  77. Petty
  78. Miller
  79. Pedersen
  80. Simmonds
  81. Spargo
  82. Trengove
  83. Hopgood
  84. Bowey
  85. Jordon
  86. Tyson
  87. Morton
  88. Mitch Clark
  89. Dunn
  90. Frost
  91. T Rivers
  92. Grinter
  93. Howe
  94. vandenBerg
  95. Rohde
  96. Walsh
  97. Hunt
  98. Kent
  99. Jolly
  100. Pike
  101. S Smith
  102. B Brown
  103. Irving
  104. Petterd
  105. Martin
  106. Grundy
  107. Van Rooyen
  108. Nettelbeck
  109. Carroll
  110. Scully
  111. B Pickett
  112. Hannan
  113. Garland
  114. Sparrow
  115. Godfrey
  116. Weideman
  117. Dawes
  118. Bate
  119. Bartram
  120. Bail
  121. Read
  122. McKenzie
  123. Yeats
  124. L Hunter
  125. Lamprill
  126. Norrish
  127. Turley
  128. B Stretch
  129. Tomlinson
  130. Collins
  131. J Wagner
  132. McVee
  133. O McDonald
  134. Tapscott
  135. Wonaeamirri
  136. Terlich
  137. Kennedy
  138. Dunstan
  139. Rodan
  140. A Nicholson
  141. Grgic
  142. Hilton
  143. Healy
  144. Ferguson
  145. Bugg
  146. Lockhart
  147. Broadbridge
  148. Chisholm
  149. M Jones
  150. D Nicholson
  151. Byrnes
  152. Warnock
  153. MacDonald
  154. Hore
  155. Lamb
  156. Cheney
  157. Gilbert
  158. Bell
  159. Lumumba
  160. Gysberts
  161. J Bennell
  162. Chandler
  163. C Wagner
  164. Beams
  165. Heffernan
  166. Motlop
  167. Smoker
  168. Evans
  169. Kennedy-Harris
  170. Bedford
  171. Clarkson
  172. Sullivan
  173. Armstrong
  174. M Newton
  175. Sampson
  176. J Smith
  177. C Johnson
  178. Maric
  179. H Bennell
  180. Preuss
  181. P Johnson
  182. Williams
  183. Doyle
  184. Cuthbertson
  185. T Smith
  186. M Brown
  187. Bishop
  188. Cook
  189. Ellis
  190. Magner
  191. Valenti
  192. Buckley
  193. B Newton
  194. Blease
  195. Toumpas
  196. Pyman
  197. Molloy
  198. Spencer
  199. O’Brien
  200. Fitzpatrick
  201. Strauss
  202. Baker
  203. Gaspar
  204. Longmuir
  205. Sellar
  206. Riley
  207. Clisby
  208. Dunkley
  209. Schache
  210. Norman
  211. Bennett
  212. Turner
  213. Giorgiou
  214. Tynan
  215. Bode
  216. L Newton
  217. N Smith
  218. Pitt
  219. Keilty
  220. Bradly
  221. Ormond-Allen
  222. Ottens
  223. Pesch
  224. Meesen
  225. Maynard
  226. Funcke
  227. M White
  228. Couch
  229. Lamaro
  230. Laurie
  231. McHardy
  232. Pickering
  233. Robins
  234. Polley
  235. Grant
  236. Barry
  237. Michie
  238. Donald Cockatoo-Collins
  239. Hughes
  240. Kolodjashnij
  241. Moorcroft
  242. Goodwin
  243. Michael Clark
  244. McNamara
  245. Heppell
  246. Gillies
  247. Davis
  248. C Hunter
  249. David Cockatoo-Collins
  250. Campbell
  251. Weetra
Just putting it out there, Haydn Robins us an absolute *******

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1. Gawn
2. Flower
3. Oliver
4. Stynes
5. Neitz
6. Lyon
7. Petracca
8. Jakovich
9. Schwarz
10. May
11. Farmer
12. Yze
13. B.Lovett
14. N.Jones
15. J.White
16. J.Viney
17. T.Viney
18. J.McDonald
19. Fritsch
20. R.Robertson

* Apologies: S.Febey, B.Green, A.Johnson, Hibberd, S.White
 
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All 3 are easily in the 22 if you were to select the best ever side of MFC players past & present.

Stynes and Gawn would be an interesting ruck combination.
 

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