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Crave said:
Most of the champs running around today will turn the ball over at crucial times and under pressure from the opposition. There would hardly be one player that isnt guilty of such an incident. Even the great man Hirdy has admitted himself, that he's made an incorrect decision and caused an interception. Yet to suggest that generally, Stanton throughout his entire career turns the ball over...you would need to back that up over pretty much every game the kid plays. You keep seeing the same replies from me due to you not being able to back up your findings. One incident here or there is just not good enough. You're the one who made the statement that 80% of the time, he coughs it up....back up such a statement.

Regardless, you've become the whipping boy here from what I can gather.
I can understand that even our great players make mistakes on the footy field from time to time and thats to be expected.All i am saying is that Stanton does it more frequently than the better players in the comp.The 80%cough up line was only figuritively speaking to highlight the fact he does cough it up often
 
DaSawx said:
It has a lot to do with what we're talking about. You've come on here trying to tell us about a certain player and that you watch him all the time yet can't answer a simple question regarding that very player.


He's yet to get it. Then he wonders why we all give him the same replies...
 
shiva25 said:
I can understand that even our great players make mistakes on the footy field from time to time and thats to be expected.All i am saying is that Stanton does it more frequently than the better players in the comp.The 80%cough up line was only figuritively speaking to highlight the fact he does cough it up often


You're telling the story!
 
shiva25 said:
Cant remember as it was more than a month ago

You can't remember something that simple, a move that had a huge say in the swing of the match. Yet you can remember what he has done with every single one of his 400+ disposals.

Interesting.

shiva25 said:
Cant remember as it was more than a month agoAll i am saying is that Stanton does it more frequently than the better players in the comp.

Just not frequently enough to put him in the top 50 of the comp for average errors per game. A top 50 that includes the likes of Barry Hall, Aaron Davey, Luke Hodge, Shannon Grant, Daniel Kerr etc.


shiva25 said:
The 80%cough up line was only figuritively speaking to highlight the fact he does cough it up often

That almost sounds like a comment from a bloke who is riding his bike backwards.
 

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DaSawx said:
It has a lot to do with what we're talking about. You've come on here trying to tell us about a certain player and that you watch him all the time yet can't answer a simple question regarding that very player.
Never said i watch him all the time but enough times to form an opinion on his disposal which has nothing to do with who he is playing on.Seeing is though you didnt answer my question i will take it that you cant provide an answer
 
shiva25 said:
Never said i watch him all the time but enough times to form an opinion on his disposal which has nothing to do with who he is playing on.Seeing is though you didnt answer my question i will take it that you cant provide an answer
**** you still in our thread? FFS get over it noone cares about your worthless opinion.
 
Longy413 said:
You can't remember something that simple, a move that had a huge say in the swing of the match. Yet you can remember what he has done with every single one of his 400+ disposals.

Interesting.



Just not frequently enough to put him in the top 50 of the comp for average errors per game. A top 50 that includes the likes of Barry Hall, Aaron Davey, Luke Hodge, Shannon Grant, Daniel Kerr etc.




That almost sounds like a comment from a bloke who is riding his bike backwards.
Enlighten me then on the big move that might of swung the match then.I would of thought Stanton missing those 2 sitters could have swung the match in your favour but do tell as i am interested to know your thoughts
 
shiva25 said:
Never said i watch him all the time but enough times to form an opinion on his disposal which has nothing to do with who he is playing on.Seeing is though you didnt answer my question i will take it that you cant provide an answer

I did answer your question, you asked what was the point of my question and gave my response.

You failed to answer who his opponent was on that night yet you seem to tell us everything about "all" disposals and how good/bad he is
 
shiva25 said:
Enlighten me then on the big move that might of swung the match then.I would of thought Stanton missing those 2 sitters could have swung the match in your favour but do tell as i am interested to know your thoughts

Did you watch the match or not?

Richmond were playing blokes behind the ball, we were getting carved. Their loose men down back were killing us and that was the reason we were well down early in the second quarter.

Sheedy manned those blokes up and moved Stanton, who was being tagged by Kane Johnson, to half back. That effectively made Richmond play with one more forward than they wanted to and Stanton provided Essendon with a stack of run.

Note - They didn't leave Stanton free across their half forward line when they were happy to do so earlier in the game with our other half back flankers.

Hope you learnt something.
 
Longy413 said:
Did you watch the match or not?

Richmond were playing blokes behind the ball, we were getting carved. Their loose men down back were killing us and that was the reason we were well down early in the second quarter.

Sheedy manned those blokes up and moved Stanton, who was being tagged by Kane Johnson, to half back. That effectively made Richmond play with one more forward than they wanted to and Stanton provided Essendon with a stack of run.

Note - They didn't leave Stanton free across their half forward line when they were happy to do so earlier in the game with our other half back flankers.

Hope you learnt something.
And how does that have anything to do with the point i am trying to make about his disposal.I know Stanton can provide run but its his kicking that can come unstuck which has been my point all along so as usual you have gone off on another tangent completely different to the point i am trying to make
 

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shiva25 said:
And how does that have anything to do with the point i am trying to make about his disposal.I know Stanton can provide run but its his kicking that can come unstuck which has been my point all along so as usual you have gone off on another tangent completely different to the point i am trying to make


Yes his kicking can come unstuck, and at other times it can also be fantastic. You know what, he's 20, he's improving, he's getting better and he's respected by opposition players and coaches. He's a kid.

You argued earlier that he doesn't hurt the opposition.

It's crap, you arguement is crap, your ability to argue it is crap.

This thread on the other hand is magic. Keep up the 'good' work.
 
Longy413 said:
Yes his kicking can come unstuck, and at other times it can also be fantastic. You know what, he's 20, he's improving, he's getting better and he's respected by opposition players and coaches. He's a kid.

You argued earlier that he doesn't hurt the opposition.

It's crap, you arguement is crap, your ability to argue it is crap.

This thread on the other hand is magic. Keep up the 'good' work.

I will agree to disagree with you then but there was no need to bring up that last point on the magical move that may have won Essendon the game when it clearly had nothing to do with the point i have been trying to make all along.At least when i argue a point i stick to the subject at hand and not go off about something else completely unrelated like you just have
 
shiva25 said:
I will agree to disagree with you then but there was no need to bring up that last point on the magical move that may have won Essendon the game when it clearly had nothing to do with the point i have been trying to make all along.At least when i argue a point i stick to the subject at hand and not go off about something else completely unrelated like you just have


Still think your argument carried no weight. Too much of a generalisation and formed purely on your opinion...not fact!
 
shiva25 said:
I will agree to disagree with you then but there was no need to bring up that last point on the magical move that may have won Essendon the game when it clearly had nothing to do with the point i have been trying to make all along.At least when i argue a point i stick to the subject at hand and not go off about something else completely unrelated like you just have

It's not a different point. It's an example of him having an influence on the match and changing the flow/course of the game.

You argued that he turned the ball over 80% of the time and he didn't hurt the opposition.

He has influenced games, he has been given 3 votes by the umpire 3-4 times in his career (he's only 20). You can't influence games if you turn the ball over 80% of the time and don't hurt the opposition.

Your whole arguement is fundamentally flawed because despite the odd turnover, that is statistically proven to be outside the top 50 in the competition, Brent Stanton does influence games, he does make a positive impact, he is tagged by opposition coaches and he is a good footballer.

Credit for coming back after repeated ownings though.
 

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