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Which side fails to play in September?

Which side misses out on September action

  • Hawks

    Votes: 71 21.4%
  • Dogs

    Votes: 116 34.9%
  • Suns

    Votes: 19 5.7%
  • Freo

    Votes: 87 26.2%
  • Giants

    Votes: 35 10.5%
  • Lions

    Votes: 4 1.2%

  • Total voters
    332

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Which makes tonight a must win. Wouldn't trust ladder predictor as they said we would lose to all of the Crows, Pies and Lions.
Conventional ladder predictors are inherently flawed - especially for long-tErm predictions. If you forced me to pick a winner for each, `i might tip against Hawthorn three times, but the odds are very much that Hawthorn would win one of them. (Actually, my computer tipped Hawthorn against Collingwood based on the decline in their form.)

The usual two versions of doing a ladder predictor are: (a) pick the favourite every time, or (b) similar, but randomly insert some upsets. They work OK at this end of the season, when there are fewer variables - there are oniy about five more minor round games apt to affect the flag race.

Better for tipping the season is a probablistic ladder, similar to the Squiggle’s predictions (but not similar to the Squiggle ladder predictor). A basic model might be - predict a margin, add that to 50% and that’s your win%. If you tipped a margin 50 or more, call it a certainty.
 

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Think that Brisbane loss makes Collingwood safe
Collingwood can still miss on percentage if they lose twice, GWS and Bulldogs win their games, Freo beats Brisbane and then Brisbane beats Hawthorn. Not likely that all of those results happen but it's at least feasible.

Adelaide and Geelong can mathematically still miss but the scenarios require that they either lose both games by over 100 points or there's a particular set of results that includes Brisbane drawing both of their games.
 

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Wow, hasn't this turned on it's head. Here's hoping for a frantic finish.

Don't like the Hawks but all credit for coming out and doing what nobody thought they could do. From here it's just win and they're in.
After the way they stood up to Adelaide, their performance against Collingwood was not surprising...
 

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Events have tipped the scales to GWS

expect to be

Adelaide 19
Geelong 18
Gold Coast 18
Collingwood 64

Fremantle 64 needed the Port win
Brisbane 62
Bulldogs 60
Hawks 60

GWS 60

Having said that. Any team can make it by winning every game pretty much
 
Events have tipped the scales to GWS

expect to be

Adelaide 19
Geelong 18
Gold Coast 18
Collingwood 64

Fremantle 64 needed the Port win
Brisbane 62
Bulldogs 60
Hawks 60

GWS 60

Having said that. Any team can make it by winning every game pretty much
Adelaide can only win 18 games, Geelong or Gold Coast can only win 17.
 
If Brisbane do miss the eight it should put to bed forever the unmitigated drivel you read all over this site that the uneven fixturing doesn't influence who plays finals or wins premierships.
They have had the hardest draw across the season, by some margin.
Would it finally wake up the idiots running the comp to overhaul fixturing if it happens?
 

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