Which side fails to play in September?

[PowerfulPies2023]

If Brisbane and Freo play out a draw this weekend, and dogs win the next two games. We could have Hawks and Brisbane playing their game last round knowing that if they draw they both make finals, otherwise the loser misses out.

This ain't the world cup. They won't be playing for nil nil.

 

[Tall poppy Syndrome]

If Brisbane and Freo play out a draw this weekend, and dogs win the next two games. We could have Hawks and Brisbane playing their game last round knowing that if they draw they both make finals, otherwise the loser misses out.

It’s the Disgrace of Gijon all over again, this time on the Pacific not the Atlantic.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

You're missing the point of what I said entirely.

Of course it is absurd to suggest Gold Coast play Brisbane in Brisbane.

It's equally absurd to suggest it is fair for Geelong to play Collingwood at the MCG, yet everyone is fine with one but objects to the other.

Just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Like any good parent, the AFL will want to make it as easy as possible for their nepo babies. They don't care if Geelong win it.

 

[FootyLad0]

Gold Coast play all of their home games at People First or in Darwin. They’ve never played a home game at the Gabba.

AFL Tables - Gold Coast v Carlton - Sat, 2-Apr-2011 6:50 PM - Match Stats

afltables.com

 

[Purple Suit]

Crowd numbers are irrelevant in the face of integrity for every other professional sport in the world. But not for the AFL it would seem.

When Man City drew Bournemouth in the FA cup qrt finals they played the match at Bournemouth. A stadium that holds only 11,000 people. It wouldn’t even cross the minds of them to go well City has a bigger ground so let’s play it there instead.

Also AGAIN when you are forced to do something against your will that can’t be used as an argument against you.
Geelong are forced to play MCG games mostly to cover for clubs like yours selling games to Tassie or other places.

I’m actually baffled you can’t see the clear integrity issue here, but then again as a direct beneficiary of this advantage you of course are happy with the status quo.

But I will leave you with this one seeing as you are so hung up on the single home game a year Geelong has at the MCG. Last year the Bulldogs did not play a single home game at the MCG and only played 2 games there total. Yet were forced to play you an MCG tenant at that ground in the finals. But I guess that’s perfectly fair as well, right?

If Geelong play every home game at GMBHA against every team then they can play every final their against every team. Picking and choosing is a bigger issue for competition integrity, interstate teams or low on the ladder vic teams shouldn’t be the only ones who play there.

Not sure if this is just the AFL or if Geelong like the sugar hit of big MCG games.

 

[catstorm]

If Geelong play every home game at GMBHA against every team then they can play every final their against every team. Picking and choosing is a bigger issue for competition integrity, interstate teams or low on the ladder vic teams shouldn’t be the only ones who play there.

Not sure if this is just the AFL or if Geelong like the sugar hit of big MCG games.

It’s all the AFL


Cats senior coach Chris Scott, though, remains desperate for his club to be allowed to choose GMHBA Stadium for every match — including finals.

“I think every team should play their 11 homes games where they choose,” he said this season.

“If they choose to farm them to Alice Springs, or Darwin, that’s fine. But you shouldn’t be forced to play home games away from your home venue.

“That’s the Geelong choice to play all 11 home games down at Geelong.”

Geelong ‘increasingly resigned’ to AFL finals setback

The Cats had hoped things would be different by September but the picture is now becoming clear.

7news.com.au

 

[Art Vandelay_]

It’s all the AFL


Cats senior coach Chris Scott, though, remains desperate for his club to be allowed to choose GMHBA Stadium for every match — including finals.

“I think every team should play their 11 homes games where they choose,” he said this season.

“If they choose to farm them to Alice Springs, or Darwin, that’s fine. But you shouldn’t be forced to play home games away from your home venue.

“That’s the Geelong choice to play all 11 home games down at Geelong.”

Geelong ‘increasingly resigned’ to AFL finals setback

The Cats had hoped things would be different by September but the picture is now becoming clear.

7news.com.au

Sad how often that article needs to be put on this site to correct the falsity that the MCG is a home venue by choice.
Also sad how poor Purple Suit contributions are regarding Geelong. Never even close to an accurate summation.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Like any good parent, the AFL will want to make it as easy as possible for their nepo babies. They don't care if Geelong win it.

Geelong have been the afl darlings for decades

 

[Freomaniac]

Got freo losing their last 3 and missing on 14 wins.

Close. But I agree.

I got Freo to lose their last 2 games vs Brisbane at home and dogs away at Marvel Or Docklands.

Freos percentage of 110 or thereabouts might cost them

 

[Purple Suit]

Sad how often that article needs to be put on this site to correct the falsity that the MCG is a home venue by choice.
Also sad how poor Purple Suit contributions are regarding Geelong. Never even close to an accurate summation.

Why does that correct it? Chris Scott wants the choice, so he can have his cake and to eat it too. This is where bigger inequities are created. Why should Freo have to travel extra while the Pies don’t travel at all?

This amplifies in finals and my team is the only one who has copped that which ended up backfiring.

After all the renovations and 40k capacity, Geelong can’t get their attendance past pre renovation level despite being top 4 and no chance of dropping out due to the soft draw.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Why does that correct it? Chris Scott wants the choice, so he can have his cake and to eat it too. This is where bigger inequities are created. Why should Freo have to travel extra while the Pies don’t travel at all?

This amplifies in finals and my team is the only one who has copped that which ended up backfiring.

After all the renovations and 40k capacity, Geelong can’t get their attendance past pre renovation level despite being top 4 and no chance of dropping out due to the soft draw.

Have you ever seen a map of Victoria? Geelong ≠ Melbourne

Wanting a team based in Geelong, not Melbourne, to have all H&A games in Geelong is not having your cake and eating it. And the MCG is not our home ground, and no protestations from you or anyone else will change that.

Any H&A 'home' game at the G is usually against an MCG tenant and thus an away game in reality.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Have you ever seen a map of Victoria? Geelong ≠ Melbourne

Wanting a team based in Geelong, not Melbourne, to have all H&A games in Geelong is not having your cake and eating it. And the MCG is not our home ground, and no protestations from you or anyone else will change that.

Any H&A 'home' game at the G is usually against an MCG tenant and thus an away game in reality.

You could easily make the counter argument that frequent exposure to the MCG gives Geelong an advantage on grand final day. Would you be happy to just play there once or twice a year and then go into grand finals with a distinct disadvantage, like every single interstate club?

 

[estibador]

I'll side with Geelong fans on the home final thing as long as they also support the idea that the highest placed team should get to host the grand final.

Wanting all your finals at your boutique ground while also demanding to protect your home state GF advantage under the guise of 'capacity' is the very definition of wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Why does that correct it? Chris Scott wants the choice, so he can have his cake and to eat it too. This is where bigger inequities are created. Why should Freo have to travel extra while the Pies don’t travel at all?

This amplifies in finals and my team is the only one who has copped that which ended up backfiring.

After all the renovations and 40k capacity, Geelong can’t get their attendance past pre renovation level despite being top 4 and no chance of dropping out due to the soft draw.

For a whineging little b***h, Chris Scott goes alright as a coach.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

AFL Tables - Gold Coast v Carlton - Sat, 2-Apr-2011 6:50 PM - Match Stats

afltables.com

I stand corrected, let me rephrase.

In recent and relevant history *

 

[Art Vandelay_]

You could easily make the counter argument that frequent exposure to the MCG gives Geelong an advantage on grand final day. Would you be happy to just play there once or twice a year and then go into grand finals with a distinct disadvantage, like every single interstate club?

You could try, but 4-5 games all vs teams that play 10-15 at the MCG still is a disadvantage.

Even if you set that aside, it still isn't a home venue for a team not from that city. That fact will never change.
And we'll play finals at the G. It is what it is. But us and Marvel tenants do not get home finals, that is irrefutable.

 

[Lunchtime]

I'll side with Geelong fans on the home final thing as long as they also support the idea that the highest placed team should get to host the grand final.

Wanting all your finals at your boutique ground while also demanding to protect your home state GF advantage under the guise of 'capacity' is the very definition of wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

So if Gold Coast were to make a Grand Final and finished on top of the ladder, you'd be happy for the Grand Final to be played at Gold Coast's home ground?

 

[HairyO]

Crowd numbers are irrelevant in the face of integrity for every other professional sport in the world. But not for the AFL it would seem.

When Man City drew Bournemouth in the FA cup qrt finals they played the match at Bournemouth. A stadium that holds only 11,000 people. It wouldn’t even cross the minds of them to go well City has a bigger ground so let’s play it there instead.

First, US sports do have minimum stadium sizes. Superbowl minimum I think is 60,000. But Im pretty sure all the teams have that capacity so maybe the minimum was just to stop a team going cheap.

Second, Im pretty sure in the past UK soccer teams routinely sold home games to Premier League teams if drawn in FA Cup matches. Has this changed?

 

[Blackhawk42]

St.Kilda not getting a Marvel home final against GWS in 2023 was the end of the Geelong 'home final' argument IMO.

They got 60 000 odd, which is only around 8-10k extra than they would have at a sold out Marvel.

Geelong in a qualifying final against Gold Coast would still likely draw around the same as that game at a minimum, but GMHBA doesn't hold as many people as Marvel.

 

[catstorm]

St.Kilda not getting a Marvel home final against GWS in 2023 was the end of the Geelong 'home final' argument IMO.

They got 60 000 odd, which is only around 8-10k extra than they would have at a sold out Marvel.

Geelong in a qualifying final against Gold Coast would still likely draw around the same as that game at a minimum, but GMHBA doesn't hold as many people as Marvel.

Well no it doesn’t end the argument when it doesn’t apply to GWS and Gold Coast, it just expands it to include the Marvel teams.

 

[Bushdid911]

(Not so) fun fact: if Gold Coast gets a home final this year, that will leave Bulldogs as the only team to have never had a final at their actual home ground.

 

[swanny1234]

If Geelong play every home game at GMBHA against every team then they can play every final their against every team. Picking and choosing is a bigger issue for competition integrity, interstate teams or low on the ladder vic teams shouldn’t be the only ones who play there.

Not sure if this is just the AFL or if Geelong like the sugar hit of big MCG games.

Agree with this, it's kind of glossed over because of the result, but the fact Freo had to go down there for a final in 2013 when no other club has ever had to in a final that is hosted by Geelong smacks of hypocrisy too.

Either Geelong's home ground is Geelong, or it isn't - they shouldn't be picking and choosing which teams go down there and which don't, and I do suspect this is an AFL directive, rather than a Geelong one, i'm sure they'd rather play the Pies in Geelong than in MCG.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Dockers looking iffy

 

[JHF1870]

Dockers looking iffy

Looking like a final game battle for the last spot with the Bulldogs.

Otherwise Freo need Melbourne to upset Hawks.

Freo's percentage means Hawks, Gold Coast, and GWS Just need 1 game.

 

[Xtreme]

I will streak around the MCG if Brisbane win the 2025 premiership