It’s not about making me feel better, it’s more to illustrate how a single player can make something appear different to what it is especially when you’re talking fine margins.
Which side is closer to a premiership - Carlton or Essendon?
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That's largely because of Goldstein and Heppell who are playing their last year. They're not our core players. The players who are leading the side this year however are our young players like Martin, Perkins, Caldwell and Durham. Yesterday when Merrett was being tagged and Parish wasn't playing well, it was Perkins, Caldwell and Durham that lifted our midfield.
Carlton have an older core group of players that are leading their side compared to Essendon.
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Carlton are still 2-3 seasons ahead of where Essendon are, regardless of the ladder position. We're overachieving on the ladder at the moment, but there's still work to do. Carlton are very close to the finished product with this list and would be trying to get something out of Curnow, McKay, Weitering and Cripps while they're all in the prime.
The only thing that matters at this stage of the years is winning, which Carlton are doing. I'd say Carlton have already proven themselves that they can win when it matters in September so I think the window has well and truly opened for them, especially with how even the top 8 teams have been. Sydney are the only ones who have separated themselves and are a class above right now, though even they lost to Richmond and were pushed by West Coast only a little over a month ago.
Essendon are a better coached side. Will give them the edge in finals.
Carlton are closer but the Bombers have turned the corner, now playing a brand of football that will win finals.
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Theres something about Carlton that still hasn't convinced me they're the real deal. Its hard to pin down, but it has a lot to do with coaching. Voss to me seems quite one dimensional as a coach and their list isnt even.
Essendon impressive but Id need to see more before Im convinced. Carlton still more likely to win it this year but I have neither in my final top 4.
Essendon impressive but Id need to see more before Im convinced. Carlton still more likely to win it this year but I have neither in my final top 4.
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A Carlton v Essendon final would be amazing to go see live. Last one was good (was there) and the ones in the 90s would have been amazing too.
Here I am giving Carlton credit through pain and gritted teeth and this is what I get.
In reality, I hope Carlton crash and burn and never win anything. Is that better?
Sorry mate, not enough coffee this morning, it was meant for the Pie supporter, will fix it up now.
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Tell me you don't know how averages work without saying "I dont know how averages work."
Goldstein is in your most important half dozen players right now. If he goes down it falls on Bryan. Draper is going to miss some time and is more hype than anything if he weren't injured.
Can the big fella keep this up for the rest of the year?
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Well explain it then Einstein. I get the the average age of each side that plays from AFL tables.
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Are they wrong?
Please do go on. I'm all ears.
Just exactly how is my analysis incorrect?
I replied to a quote stating that Carlton are much more mature. How can this be measured? I chose average age.
I'm also reading everywhere that Essendon are a young team. That's blatantly false as they're in the top half of the league age-wise in most cases top third.
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Scott coaching beautifully and if you can make a final and win one he could be right but that gif was made for Pie supporters.
What do the average games played say? Bearing in mind Goldstein would skew that a lot too?
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Goldy alone is skewing the average.
You can't skew an average.
He is playing, so in it goes
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I haven't read the whole thread since the GWS win, but are people really discrediting it?It's kinda awkward for Blues fans. Don't want to give Essendon credit for beating Giants but discount Giants and all they're left with for their "premiership contending team" is a couple of umpire influenced falls over the line against Melbourne and Fremantle.
I don't see how anyone genuinely could. It's a good win. It's the other wins and losses that have question marks. They aren't the only team in that boat though and there's plenty of time to see what their genuine form looks like.
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His inclusion can lead some to believe the playing list is older than it appears, mkay.
If you take away all of Steve Smith's test centuries, he really is a poor batsman.
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We were putrid at that time and kicked 6.16.
I wouldn't use that as a gauge for anything.
Both teams look to have improved since then.
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