Why are Carlton topping up?

[Hodgepodge]

I can understand Geelong getting Podsiadly after 2009. They had just won a flag and were looking good for another one.
Hence, they recruited a ready made player to have an immediate impact in another premiership tilt.

Same with StKilda. I can understand them recruiting Stephen King and Michael Gardiner, along with other mature age players. They've played in countless prelims and now Grand Finals.

Carlton have finished 8th - 12th the last 3 years. So why are they topping up with ready made rejects?

Duigan - 27
McLean - 25
Collins - 23
Laidler - 22
Henderson - 22

Part of the answer could be their underperformance the last 3 years, with most clubs in similar positions on the draft table having made preliminary finals 4 or 5 years into their rebuild. Carlton is now in year 7 without a finals win.

So what do you think? Why are Carlton topping up?

 

[Gray Day]

Perhaps Gary Ayres is working as a consultant? Can't help but be reminded of the Camries 2002-2004 topping up their list of spuds with Ronnie Burns and an over-the-hill Wayne Carey.

The easier explanation though is Visy are in need of more media-friendly 'ambassadors'

 

[wambat]

Would have nothing to do with the fact their list is a bucket of dog shit.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Maybe they actually might be half decent players, who knows

 

[sidebum]

Same reason Brisbane did

 

[huggy_b]

Clearly they are on a premiership tilt, its just out of reach but with these additions they are top 4 no doubt - just ask their fans.

 

[Ron]

Why has a team that has failed in it's only final in the last two years topped up with average players such as Burgoyne, Hale, Gibson, Cheney and Johnson?

 

[Gray Day]

These players would be considered 'stars' at Carltank, thread title would be misleading to them.

 

[Hodgepodge]

Why has a team that has failed in it's only final in the last two years topped up with average players such as Burgoyne, Hale, Gibson, Cheney and Johnson?

We got Johnson for nothing.

Gibson is above average.

Hale average

Burgoyne star.

Cheney we got for virtuallly nothing.

We also have shown a capacity to win a final, which Carlton have not done.

 

[Tyler Durden007]

you can't say that 22-25 year olds are topping up, unless they're total shit to start with (and hey, they're at Carlton so they very well might be)... a top up player is at least 26+

 

[Poseidon]

lol I love Hodgepodge

 

[Silvagnis]

So HodgePodge can have an online life.

 

[Beckstar]

It's simple really. They can't develop talent

So rather than waste their time tanking and getting high picks which end up as spuds anyway, they are just picking spuds from the start. It's just less time consuming

 

[coryne]

I can understand Geelong getting Podsiadly after 2009. They had just won a flag and were looking good for another one.
Hence, they recruited a ready made player to have an immediate impact in another premiership tilt.

Same with StKilda. I can understand them recruiting Stephen King and Michael Gardiner, along with other mature age players. They've played in countless prelims and now Grand Finals.

Carlton have finished 8th - 12th the last 3 years. So why are they topping up with ready made rejects?

Duigan - 27 (He is actually 26)
McLean - 25
Collins - 23 (Just turned 22, and he was traded in for a player older than himself)
Laidler - 22 (He is actually 21)
Henderson - 22 (Just turned 21 ..............)

Part of the answer could be their underperformance the last 3 years, with most clubs in similar positions on the draft table having made preliminary finals 4 or 5 years into their rebuild. Carlton is now in year 7 without a finals win.

So what do you think? Why are Carlton topping up?

So for starters you have a slight problem with rounding up players age, but why let facts get in the way of a typical podgeyhodge troll .........


Henderson was traded in as a 20 yr old in exchange for a 29 yr old no longer on an AFL list (WIN)

Laidler and Duigan address a need in the backline .........

McLean was supposed to help release Judd (and has only been on the list a year)

and Collins is YOUNGER than Grigg, who walked out on the club (I don't see how that could be close to being seen as a top up).


In summary, this is a typical, obsessive, crap podgeyhodge troll with no basis of truth ..................

 

[T2B_]

^ Yup.

Shitty thread with shitty logic, fail bin I say.

 

[Hodgepodge]

So for starters you have a slight problem with rounding up players age, but why let facts get in the way of a typical podgeyhodge troll .........

I calculate by year of birth which is a more accurate representation .

Henderson was traded in as a 20 yr old in exchange for a 29 yr old no longer on an AFL list (WIN)

Still a top up. Carlton went for a mature age player rather than draft picks. Initially they were after Bradshaw and Rischitelli.

Laidler and Duigan address a need in the backline .........

Older players, thus top ups.

McLean was supposed to help release Judd (and has only been on the list a year)

Release Judd? From what? Jail? Another mature age pickup.

and Collins is YOUNGER than Grigg, who walked out on the club (I don't see how that could be close to being seen as a top up).

You can trade for draft picks or ready made. In this case Carlton again with the ready made players.

Topping up, but why?

 

[wambat]

Carlton are still shit.

 

[Military_man]

Would have nothing to do with the fact their list is a bucket of dog shit.

That list managed to beat your poor excuse of side in recent years. So if our list is a bucket of dog shit what does that make your list???

 

[brazilblue]

There is a reason why Carlton are the most hated side in the comp .... and after years of darkness due to the AFL using us as scapegoats our time is coming .... be warned Hodgecock when it arrives you are likely to self destruct ... did you get molested by a carlton player as a child or something?

You seem to have a serious hard on for the Mighty, Mighty Blues.

 

[wambat]

That list managed to beat your poor excuse of side in recent years. So if our list is a bucket of dog shit what does that make your list???

I dont consider my club a top 4 / premeirship side.

You delusional freaks do.

 

[coryne]

I calculate by year of birth which is a more accurate representation .


Bay speak for (I use what ever information best suits my argument)


Still a top up. Carlton went for a mature age player rather than draft picks. Initially they were after Bradshaw and Rischitelli.


No the Bears OFFERED Carlton Bradshaw and Rischitelli (which is why both buggered off). In the end Carlton recieved a 1st rd pick and a 20 yr old KPF


Older players, thus top ups.


Laidler is YOUNGER than Lewis Jetta (#14 in 2009 draft) and Isaac Smith (#19 in the 2010 draft). I guess this means both are top-up players .................



Release Judd? From what? Jail? Another mature age pickup.


Never said he wasn't a mature age pick up


You can trade for draft picks or ready made. In this case Carlton again with the ready made players.

Topping up, but why?

Damn podgeyhodge, typical piss poor responses as always ............

 

[Hodgepodge]

Damn podgeyhodge, typical piss poor responses as always ............

Yes they were . . . you couldn't at least put them outside the quote box?

 

[Military_man]

I dont consider my club a top 4 / premeirship side.

You delusional freaks do.

I don't concider my side a top 4 side either but they are a top 8 side and will be top 4 soon. your side still can't beat freo the most pathetic side in the AFL competition. Enjoy your second wooden spoon thats on its way at the end of this season

 

[wambat]

I don't concider my side a top 4 side either but they are a top 8 side and will be top 4 soon. your side still can't beat freo the most pathetic side in the AFL competition. Enjoy your second wooden spoon thats on its way at the end of this season

We have a better head to head record against frailmantle you complete *******.

Back to Back spoons you say? How quickly you forget 2005,2006 and 1 spot away from a 3 peat.

 

[Hodgepodge]

I don't concider my side a top 4 side either but they are a top 8 side and will be top 4 soon. your side still can't beat freo the most pathetic side in the AFL competition. Enjoy your second wooden spoon thats on its way at the end of this season

Carlton also lost twice to Freo in 2010.