Why the negativity towards Eade?

[spindoctor]

Ths is a coach who got a serial wooden-spooner to a regular finals performer in a very short time.

He is universally ackowledged as one of the best matchday coaches in the business.

And he was NOT always negative, despite what Stiffy has been claiming. He may have invented the flood, but he did not employ it in every bloody game.

He is a very good tactical coach, and I would not be unhappy with him at all.

 

[Crow-mosone]

there was a reason why Eade was our no.1 choice before ayres.

Eade developed the flood to regroup and setup an attacking movement, Wallace used it to choke the life out of the game. He was very innovative, and frankly has a fantastic record at the Swans. Wallace also got great results from not much, but he wasn't the only one. Either would be good at the AFC.

Though at this stage I would take the paddle pop lion over Neil Craig, at least some part of PPL's name suggests 'winner'.

 

[jc67]

Originally posted by spindoctor
Ths is a coach who got a serial wooden-spooner to a regular finals performer in a very short time.

After Barassi set it ALL up for him.
I also think he is a defensive coach.

 

[macca23]

As I've just finished posting

Originally posted by macca23
I must admit that I'm warming to Eade, if we can't get Wallace. I rate him streets ahead of Craig.

His peers regard him as one of the all-time smart match-day coaches, and he did take a Sydney based team to a GF and that would not be easy.

On top of that his recruiting can't have been too bad for Roos to take over and succeed immediately.

I'm sure you're right when you say that he couldn't afford to be as dogmatic as Wallace as to what he would and wouldn't demand.

Eade would have to be right back in the mix now, especially if Wallace took Hawthorn.

 

[tribey]

Originally posted by Crow-mosone
Though at this stage I would take the paddle pop lion over Neil Craig ...

If he arrives with a sack full of rainbow flavour then he's won me.

 

[mymansyd]

Agree, as per above(s).

Not sold on Eade, but would take him ahead of Craig any day!

 

[Mego Red]

Originally posted by dyertribe


If he arrives with a sack full of rainbow flavour then he's won me.

Doesn't take much more than a sack full of flavour to win you over, dyertribe ...

 

[Fergus]

My understanding is that there is some bad blood from back in 1999 when Eade was approached to coach the Crows. I'm not sure of the details but it has been glossed over a few times in the media. Rucci and KG mentioned it briefly on Saturday but didn't go into any detail.

 

[mymansyd]

Originally posted by Fergus
My understanding is that there is some bad blood from back in 1999 when Eade was approached to coach the Crows. I'm not sure of the details but it has been glossed over a few times in the media. Rucci and KG mentioned it briefly on Saturday but didn't go into any detail.

I heard KG mention that this morning. Apparently, Crows were annoyed that Eade in his negotiations with them, seemed more interested in increasing his bargaining power at the Swans than coaching the Crows.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Eade will NOT coach the Crows. Its between Wallace and Craig. I reapet Eade will NOT coach the crows.

 

[Fergus]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Eade will NOT coach the Crows. Its between Wallace and Craig. I reapet Eade will NOT coach the crows.

Can you elaborate on the reasons behind this?

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Fergus
Can you elaborate on the reasons behind this?

Read mymansyd's post and you will get the picture. The Crows are down right dirty on him and there is no chance in hell he will be coaching us. The last person I want to see as Adelaide coach is Rodney Eade. This is the only thing that could make me throw my membership away. The day Rodney Eade coaches the Crows is the day I burn up my membership.

Fryzie also reckons he wouldn't be a good get for the Crows

 

[Tyson20]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Read mymansyd's post and you will get the picture. The Crows are down right dirty on him and there is no chance in hell he will be coaching us. The last person I want to see as Adelaide coach is Rodney Eade. This is the only thing that could make me throw my membership away. The day Rodney Eade coaches the Crows is the day I burn up my membership.

Fryzie also reckons he wouldn't be a good get for the Crows

Yep im with you!

Altho i wouldnt burn my membership id go pretty close to doing so if Eade became our coach!

I think it is down to Wallace or Craig, and if Wallace doesnt get the AFC job, i seriously think he will stay in the media! Its just a hunch of mine, and i read an article (Herald Sun or The Age i think) where he spoke of his concerns about Hawthorn and Richmonds off field problems. IMO Wallace wants the AFC job! Im yet to be convinced that the AFC want him...

He has to be the front runner...Craig is just same old same old IMO!

 

[Jars458]

We need the best man for the job - If Eade is it, then so be it

Problems from five years ago should ahve no bearing

We need to be ruthlessly professional and not let egos get in the way.

 

[TheBloods]

Re: Re: Why the negativity towards Eade?

Originally posted by jc67
After Barassi set it ALL up for him.
I also think he is a defensive coach.

Just some points from a Swans supporter - the side was not completely set up by Barassi so that Eade had it easy, as you seem to suggest here. A number of valuable new players were gained (eg: Lockett, Roos) in '95, but there is a lot more to a good side than just a couple of stars.

Eade's use of the flood was just one tactic, however it was remembered as most other coaches adopted it afterwards to some degree.

His essential strategy was to develop a strong-tackling, hard working side around defence and then expand from there.

From '96-'00 the Swans averaged 14.5 goals per game. That would typically place the side about 6th-7th in total goals scored per game. That would be appropriate to reflect his game plans, which did have more emphasis on the defensive side of the game, but also produced reasonable scoring.

As I noted elsewhere, I also think Eade would have learnt a lot from his first stint as a senior coach and some time out of the game to consider it. I think he would make a fine coach for one of the teams looking for next year.

 

[macca23]

Originally posted by Tyson20

I think it is down to Wallace or Craig, and if Wallace doesnt get the AFC job, i seriously think he will stay in the media! Its just a hunch of mine, and i read an article (Herald Sun or The Age i think) where he spoke of his concerns about Hawthorn and Richmonds off field problems. IMO Wallace wants the AFC job! Im yet to be convinced that the AFC want him...

He has to be the front runner...Craig is just same old same old IMO!

Quite right, and Wallace has virually invited Adelaide to offer him the job. Do they have the intelligence to act?

See article below.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/07/25/1090693833764.html

Wallace wary of turmoil
By Daniella Miletic, Peter Ker
July 26, 2004




Terry Wallace, a prime target for the AFL's coaching vacancies next season, said yesterday said he might not coach at all next year, given the turbulent political climate at both Hawthorn and Richmond football clubs.

Wallace said that "massive changes" would be essential for both clubs, including cutting eight to 10 players on each club's playing list.

While Hawthorn's interim chief executive Jason Dunstall confirmed the club would interview the former Bulldogs coach during the week, Wallace was adamant he would not crawl over broken glass to coach in 2005.

"Not coaching next year is a realistic prospect. If I don't believe the three clubs (Hawthorn, Richmond, Adelaide) are right for Terry Wallace, then certainly Terry Wallace won't coach next year," Wallace said.

"It's such a difficult job that the mix has to be right for you and you have just got to feel that everything is lined up and it is absolutely perfect. Otherwise, I won't do it.



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"I am OK financially, I don't have to do it. If I don't think it's right, then I won't put myself and my family through it."

The Hawthorn and Richmond boards are both facing an uncertain future. Rebel Tigers member Michael Pahoff is vowing to submit a petition this week to spill the Richmond board if it refuses to stand down and former Hawthorn board member Don Scott is leading a charge against the Ian Dicker-led Hawks board.

"You really don't want to be in a situation where you are negotiating with one group and then find out that somewhere down the track . . . that that's not the group that you are going to be working with," Wallace said.

"It's more than financial stability, it's so the club can work well. You want to make sure that the people you are talking to are running the club at that stage, and if they are not, or there is some doubt, then you have got to take that into account."

Pahoff said last night he was unconcerned that Wallace had voiced doubts about instability at Richmond and said he did not think the former Bulldogs coach was the right man for the Tigers.

"There are three clubs looking for coaches and potentially four quality coaches available: Wallace, Eade, O'Donnell and Harvey, he said. "So there's more than enough coaches to go around. I don't think Wallace is the right coach for Richmond anyway. I've heard he is going to Hawthorn and chasing money anyway."

Earlier, Richmond president Clinton Casey said he would ask the members who signed Pahoff's petition to withdraw their support for the document.

Casey said the supporters who had signed Pahoff's petition did not realise the gravity of what they were doing.

"I really can't believe that the members that Pahoff courted a few weeks ago fully understood what they were signing, fully understood the timing and the damage that this petition could potentially cause," he said.

"Hopefully we can explain that to those people on the list and we can offer them a better solution, have them withdraw their names, and address any member issues at the end of the season at the appropriate time."

Pahoff started collecting signatures before Richmond's round-12 match against Fremantle and gathered the 100 signatures needed to force an extraordinary general meeting the following week at the match against Carlton.

Casey said submitting the petition would leave the club "with no CEO in the chair, no coach for next year, no board and no president; a position that we think is completely unacceptable for this footy club".

"If the petition does get delivered, we are certainly going to look forward to contacting every single person that is on that list," Casey said.

Pahoff was in the crowd at yesterday's match between Richmond and Melbourne and said he was not surprised by Casey's plan. He said the Richmond supporters were well aware of what his petition stood for.

"I gave them sheets to take home and read, I gave them plenty of information," he said. "There's going to be a lot of disinformation by the board, I can't do much about it. Clinton has his own little world and can't distinguish fact from fiction."

Hawthorn football director Dermott Brereton last night declined to comment on Wallace's remarks, saying only: "That's his perception."

Brereton also said the club had not reconsidered its position of having sacked coach Peter Schwab see out the rest of the season at the helm. "There's been no reconsideration. We expect Peter to see out the request of the club," he said.


Mind you, if it came to the crunch and we don't get Wallace, then I'd rather have Eade any day over Craig.

 

[tribey]

Hahahahah

That's one of the biggest "come get me" pleas in recent years.

However, while it's still only speculation, we're all almost certain Craig was given a nod and a wink (at the very least) following the Melbourne victory, making it hard for the board to go back on its word - moreso if they did something utterly stupid involving ink.

 

[Fergus]

Originally posted by Jars458
We need the best man for the job - If Eade is it, then so be it

Problems from five years ago should ahve no bearing

We need to be ruthlessly professional and not let egos get in the way.

I agree - unless the issues are current then they should have no bearing on this process.

 

[spindoctor]

Exactly.

If Stiffy will tear up his membership if Eade is appointed, I question him as a supporter.

Eade is one of the best matchday coaches in the business, did wonderful things with the Swans and is a hundred light years ahead of Craig.

For Stiffy to call Craig over Eade stinks to me.

 

[Tyson20]

Originally posted by spindoctor
Exactly.

If Stiffy will tear up his membership if Eade is appointed, I question him as a supporter.

Eade is one of the best matchday coaches in the business, did wonderful things with the Swans and is a hundred light years ahead of Craig.

For Stiffy to call Craig over Eade stinks to me.

its Stiffy's opinion...so i dont know why it gets to you!

He prefers Craig to Eade and u prefer Eade to Craig! So what??

its not like what Stiffy says is the measure of what happens at the club

 

[conVINCEd]

I usually agree with Stiffy's views, but on this one I'm with spinny. Eade was an excellent coach at the Swans, and as has already been mentioned, he would have learned from his time out of coaching over the last few years. This has been used as a positive for Wallace, so how is it any different for Eade.

I'm also unsure as to how Eade staying with Sydney whilst he was their coach makes it impossible for Adelaide to hire him. Some have questioned Wallace's loyalty after leaving Hawthorn as a player and the Dogs as a coach, yet nothing is said about Eade staying loyal to the Swans. If he wanted to get the best salary on offer, then what is wrong with that? Isn't that what we would all do? At the end of the day, he stayed.

I wouldn't be changing clubs if Eade was appointed. Whilst I don't see him as the best candidate, he isn't the dunce some have made him out to be.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by spindoctor
Exactly.

If Stiffy will tear up his membership if Eade is appointed, I question him as a supporter.

Eade is one of the best matchday coaches in the business, did wonderful things with the Swans and is a hundred light years ahead of Craig.

For Stiffy to call Craig over Eade stinks to me.

I find this laughable. I don't rate Eade full stop. If you don't like it you are free to jump into the lake.

 

[tribey]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I find this laughable. I don't rate Eade full stop. If you don't like it you are free to jump into the lake.

Are you sure you don't work for 5AA? That was very Kenneth George of you

FWIW, I've never been an Eade fan either. However, even sight-challenged Frederick can see that he is streets, lanes, roads and expressways ahead of Craig in terms of coaching ability.

If it came down to those two I'd be praying that Rocket got the job.

 

[macca23]

Originally posted by dyertribe
Are you sure you don't work for 5AA? That was very Kenneth George of you

FWIW, I've never been an Eade fan either. However, even sight-challenged Frederick can see that he is streets, lanes, roads and expressways ahead of Craig in terms of coaching ability.

If it came down to those two I'd be praying that Rocket got the job.

As would I!!

Eade would be 500 million light years ahead of Craig IMO

Eade ....... Craig

A million dollars or a dog's ****??

I'll take Eade, thanks.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Given our financial strength & bad need to rebuild, we must do everything to go after the best available coach - & that is not Craig!!!

IMO, Wallace is the best choice & given our stability off-field, would be very disappointed if we couldn't attract him to AFC (as compared to the Tigers & Hawks).

If Wallace chooses the Hawks, then we should explore all possible options - ie. Eade, O'Donnell, etc. I personally don't have a 2nd preference at the moment.