Did i hear this right on the news, that we all paid for a memorial for a billionaire? Please tell me i'm wrong, and if not, please tell me why?
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Why was Kerry Packers memorial today taxpayer funded?
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A very simple explanation:
1. Packer was one of Australia's highest profile persons and is one of the highest profile dead persons.
2. Such people get given memorial sevices by the Govt. Richie Benaud will get one, Molly Meldrum will get one, and arguably so should Kerry Packer.
3. This is not a funeral - it's a memorial service. A recognition from the Govt.
4. You can't expect a dead person's family to pay for a memorial service. It's not like they needed or asked for it - they were awarded it. It's like making someone pay for their own OBE medallion.
So basically although the Packers are loaded and don't need to have the tax payer pay for anything, there is a very reasonable and logical reason why the tax payer is paying for this. We're not paying for his funeral - we're paying for a tribute from the Govt. And that's fair enough.
1. Packer was one of Australia's highest profile persons and is one of the highest profile dead persons.
2. Such people get given memorial sevices by the Govt. Richie Benaud will get one, Molly Meldrum will get one, and arguably so should Kerry Packer.
3. This is not a funeral - it's a memorial service. A recognition from the Govt.
4. You can't expect a dead person's family to pay for a memorial service. It's not like they needed or asked for it - they were awarded it. It's like making someone pay for their own OBE medallion.
So basically although the Packers are loaded and don't need to have the tax payer pay for anything, there is a very reasonable and logical reason why the tax payer is paying for this. We're not paying for his funeral - we're paying for a tribute from the Govt. And that's fair enough.
Absolute joke that Packer got a taxpayer funded memorial service.
Apart from a few packer whackers and a bit of largesse to the casino hosties after a big win; what did he really do for society? So he was a good bloke and a good dad; if that's the criteria we would be having state funerals every day. It was really Howards way of saying "thanks for the support KP".
Looking at all those stiffs there i was reminded of Latham's "conga line of arselickers" quote.
Apart from a few packer whackers and a bit of largesse to the casino hosties after a big win; what did he really do for society? So he was a good bloke and a good dad; if that's the criteria we would be having state funerals every day. It was really Howards way of saying "thanks for the support KP".
Looking at all those stiffs there i was reminded of Latham's "conga line of arselickers" quote.
Love him or hate him, Kerry Packer was a dominant figure of the modern era, probably as influential to the country as most Prime Minister's. I personally am a great fan, and I think it was an appropriate recognition.
Kim Beazley should be commended for his support.
Kim Beazley should be commended for his support.
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Do you know what WSC is?Dippers Donuts said:
Why does he have to do something? He was one of Australia's most recognised. He was one of Australia's most powerful. He was an icon.
What ever made you think this had anything to do with it?
Yawn.
Someone has an unhealthy resentment.
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To recognise a person's input or importance or whatever to our country.Appleyard said:
Not sure why you think they must be a public servant or why other people think they must regularly walk old ladies across the road?
He was one of Australia's most recognisable persons. There's definitely an argument why he should be given recognition by the Govt.
You think he did that for society or to line his pockets? Hmmm?bunsen burner said:
He has to do "something" because it's a frigging memorial service, funded by the taxpayer, thats why! So he was one of "Australias most recognised, most powerful blah blah blah";...so what? An icon to whom exactly? You? Very funny.
you don't get irony real well do you? Anyway; so tell me what he actually did to deserve this memorial? And don't give me that "Icon" BS; be specific.
Long day at high school?
you are so dense. Resentment to what?
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What does it matter?Dippers Donuts said:
Would you deny Richie Benaud a memorial? You don't think he did cricket commentary for everyone else's benefit in front of his own do you?
What about Rod Laver? You don't think he was self interested?
Name your person.
So what's this "something" that you think people have to do to deserve a memorial service?
1. High profile
2. WSC
3. Job provider
4. Economy driver
5. Philanthropist
ps I'm indifferent to whether he deserves one or not. I don't subscribe to the ill thought out theory that the tax payer shouldn't pay for no other reason than "he is rich".
Are you going to try and tell me you don't resent rich people?
From the media crap I have been hearing, the show that was on last night which I didn't waste my time watching, he was a good father, husband & friend. There are thousands of men out there the same, but they don't rip off people to line their pockets, do they get any recognition? 
Brittany
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That doco thing last night was actually really interesting, and i'm not just saying that coz I am a big Packer fan but I really learnt alot about him, he seemed like a pretty good bloke who really values his family.mantis said:From the media crap I have been hearing, the show that was on last night which I didn't waste my time watching, he was a good father, husband & friend. There are thousands of men out there the same, but they don't rip off people to line their pockets, do they get any recognition?
Brittany said:
What about the factory worker who cares about his family, he worked a lot harder than Packer & never ripped anyone off, where is his memorial?
Packer was born into money, as James has, will we do the same thing when he dies, even though James has caused a lot of people grief, through his dodgey business escapades?
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Dont have any concern one way or another. I didnt watch it and didnt care.
I do question at what stage do we draw a line and say ''hes deserves one, he doesnt''
ie if Ted Whitten deserved one( and I agree he did) then why didnt Jack Dyer get one?
I do question at what stage do we draw a line and say ''hes deserves one, he doesnt''
ie if Ted Whitten deserved one( and I agree he did) then why didnt Jack Dyer get one?
The irony for me (whether he was worthy or otherwise of a state funeral) was that for someone who more than likely spent his life avoiding paying tax (legitimately or otherwise), should have this service paid by us
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Who did he rip off? Names, dates, and circumstances please.mantis said:What about the factory worker who cares about his family, he worked a lot harder than Packer & never ripped anyone off, where is his memorial?
Mossie said:
Did not Packer win his court case with the ATO?
No deductions on your tax return?
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Please show me the bit where it says he ripped people off. And then show us some proof.Mossie said:
ps I don't think you have adequately grasped the concept of legal tax write offs. Here, you can go to www.ato.gov.au and study up a bit.
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bunsen burner said:
Thanks BB. The way (and yes i do believe it was channel 7) it was worded on the news was almost to incite incredulity in viewers (worked with me).
However, once explained it makes sense.
I dont necessarily agree with it but i'm not all that terribly interested in the Packers and therefore wouldnt know the whys and wherefores of their lives etc that would deem them deserving of such a thing, wealth or no.
It matters because dills like yourself seem to think WSC was Packer's great gift to society. He did it first and foremost to breaK the ABC stranglehold on tv rights; ie to make money. That's fine, no problem with that; just try not to pretend otherwise. Besides, revolution would have happened eventually; Packer or no Packer. So he gave the world coloured cricket clothing and white balls? Wow! Canonize the man now!bunsen burner said:
As for Richie? Nope. Don Bradman would be the only cricketer worthy of a state memorial; although boonie it must be said, comes close.
Rod Laver? Nope; just a tennis player. A handy one at that but still just a tennis player.
Well; if he built half a dozen hospitals for example, with the money he saved from avoiding his taxes; then I might reconsider.
This is a joke right? You have no idea. By your fuzzy criteria we'll be having state funerals every five minutes. How exactly was he a philanthropist btw?
I am indifferent because he doesnt deserve one. Simple as that and your dribble above does not alter things one iota.
You really are a clown. How the hell do you draw that silly conclusion. I am not perhaps what would most people would class as rich but I would consider myself wealthy. So I resent myself???
Dippers Donuts said:
So, you want no one to ever have a memorial? And what exactly did the Don do for society?
He raised the profile of cricket, which is exactly what Packer did.
