Abdul_The_Bull
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He wasn't iced up or in a sling in the rooms after the match. The injury can't be too bad - maybe a couple of weeks?
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Fly said in his presser he thought it was fairly severeHe wasn't iced up or in a sling in the rooms after the match. The injury can't be too bad - maybe a couple of weeks?
Which is even more curious as to why he wasn't in a sling or iced up. If it dislocated and the popped back in then there is a chance that is structuraslly not too bad but there will definitely be soft tissue damage and swelling. Ice it! Support it!Fly said in his presser he thought it was fairly severe
Thought the same thing, why not iced up but reading up on disclocations it's saying 3-4 months or so.He wasn't iced up or in a sling in the rooms after the match. The injury can't be too bad - maybe a couple of weeks?
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Which is even more curious as to why he wasn't in a sling or iced up. If it dislocated and the popped back in then there is a chance that is structuraslly not too bad but there will definitely be soft tissue damage and swelling. Ice it! Support it!
Are you being snarky towards someone asking questions about medical decisions?Okay Doctor Abdul.
Are you being snarky towards someone asking questions about medical decisions?

Was just wondering if you were being tongue in cheek or thickOf course you don't get it![]()
My pure ignorance here, I thought dislocated shoulders, ya just wack back in so to speak, Ive had a couple (motorbikes), they just literally pushed them back in at emergency and said on ya way.Fly said in his presser he thought it was fairly severe
Which is even more curious as to why he wasn't in a sling or iced up. If it dislocated and the popped back in then there is a chance that is structuraslly not too bad but there will definitely be soft tissue damage and swelling. Ice it! Support it!
I think for you or I it might be the case (been the same with dislocating fingers), but I think in high performance they would probably want to ensure that the stabilising and surrounding muscles are worked on to ensure repeat and/or extreme damage, and that full control is regained. I would imagine that would be especially the case if the dislocation really strained muscles around itMy pure ignorance here, I thought dislocated shoulders, ya just wack back in so to speak, Ive had a couple (motorbikes), they just literally pushed them back in at emergency and said on ya way.
A good insight into the way shoulder dislocations can become an issue is with Dunkley and McInerney at Brisbane. Yes, they can pop right back in technically, but the structural integrity is not the same. They can slip right back out much easier and as it keeps happening, the damage could compound.My pure ignorance here, I thought dislocated shoulders, ya just wack back in so to speak, Ive had a couple (motorbikes), they just literally pushed them back in at emergency and said on ya way.
Was just wondering if you were being tongue in cheek or thick
Bloody do-gooders. Nothing wrong with a little Crystal Meth! It worked for the Germans during the Blitzkrieg! Get's ya goin' and keeps ya goin'.There's a movement away from using ice.
Carlton looked to be giving it a crack (pardon the pun)Bloody do-gooders. Nothing wrong with a little Crystal Meth! It worked for the Germans during the Blitzkrieg! Get's ya goin' and keeps ya goin'.
Worked for Ben Cousins!Bloody do-gooders. Nothing wrong with a little Crystal Meth! It worked for the Germans during the Blitzkrieg! Get's ya goin' and keeps ya goin'.
Agree - GCS didn’t take any risk with Rowell in his first season, and went straight to Surgery.A good insight into the way shoulder dislocations can become an issue is with Dunkley and McInerney at Brisbane. Yes, they can pop right back in technically, but the structural integrity is not the same. They can slip right back out much easier and as it keeps happening, the damage could compound.
Hayes is a very young player so I'd venture to guess that the club would prefer not to risk the long term inregirty of his shoulder this early in his career, especially considering he looks to be a genuine forward prospect at the Pies long term. Surgery might be necessary to ensure it properly heals and regains integrity.
Football medicos tend to take the long time view. Hawks did it this season with Day who could have had 4-6 week of strengthening the area.I think for you or I it might be the case (been the same with dislocating fingers), but I think in high performance they would probably want to ensure that the stabilising and surrounding muscles are worked on to ensure repeat and/or extreme damage, and that full control is regained. I would imagine that would be especially the case if the dislocation really strained muscles around it

It looks like we're taking 3 possible picks into the MSD, which suggests that they're hoping Will will be back this season.Has there been an update on Will? Meaning do we know the extent of the injury, and if there’s a chance he’ll return this year?
Some posts have referred to him possibly needing a shoulder reconstruction- but we don’t know if this is required.
Hope it’s not.![]()
