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Just Wondering if you think we will as since the Clarke/Elliot Trade it's gone Quite
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Will we do anymore Trades?
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jefffff34
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If by quite[sic] you mean the fact that it looks like Macaffer, McCarthy and Toovey are all going to leave, and also that Dawes and Davis have re-signed, then yes it is quiet as a mouse.
We'll do another two trades IMO.
We'll do another two trades IMO.
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J-Mac will go, and Toovey is still up in the air also.
The good news is we have heard nothing from the MaCaffer camp, which means he is probably staying.
The good news is we have heard nothing from the MaCaffer camp, which means he is probably staying.
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dubber
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I think we will see at least one trade
Mcarthy to NM / melb for a pick??
I hope Toovey stays. Don't think Beams / Macaffer are going anywhere.
As Bucks said that we will be fairly quiet during trade period
Mcarthy to NM / melb for a pick??
I hope Toovey stays. Don't think Beams / Macaffer are going anywhere.
As Bucks said that we will be fairly quiet during trade period
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Macaffer must stay and McCarthy may as well go. I am warming to losing Toovey, for no reason other than his disposal and his management. I hope we pick up some non-dud guys from other clubs. I hope the players we lose become duds too.
J-Mac will go and will be good for a developing team. He'll never be a star but he'll play a part somewhere else.
Caff to stay and will play 27 games for us next season pressuming he stays uninjured.
Toovey will not end up leaving. No other club will pay him what his manager thinks he is worth. There is something very fishy about this whole situation and i think Toovey is being made out to be more responsible for this fiasco than what he really is. I think however it is being reported in the media, dull that down about 50 pegs and thats how bad the situation will really be.
Tooves will play on but will not play every game next year, especially if Clarke gets his eye in. However, we need backline depth due to Davis and Johnson retiring probably at the end of next year.
Caff to stay and will play 27 games for us next season pressuming he stays uninjured.
Toovey will not end up leaving. No other club will pay him what his manager thinks he is worth. There is something very fishy about this whole situation and i think Toovey is being made out to be more responsible for this fiasco than what he really is. I think however it is being reported in the media, dull that down about 50 pegs and thats how bad the situation will really be.
Tooves will play on but will not play every game next year, especially if Clarke gets his eye in. However, we need backline depth due to Davis and Johnson retiring probably at the end of next year.
dubber
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I know everyone has a right to have their opinion but i have to pull you up on this
You think a fully fit Toovey will be replaced by Clarke who has not played AFL for two years?
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I wouldnt be suprised seeing Goldsack replace Toovey if he finally gets a good preseason. Marty Clarke will be wing/forward now i reckon
Does that include NAB Cup games or a couple of drawn GFs?
I think JMac will be traded and that's it.
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I think he has accidentaly thought that the season will be 24 rounds next year which it isnt its going back to a normal 22 round season and he has also used 24 games forgetting that each team has 2 byes so using his logic 24 games plus 3 finals makes 27 games.
So according to him in actuall fact he will play 25 games next year.
Which imo i dont think will happen.
Bloben
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Surprisingly quiet about the Toovey fiasco. I thought that there would be a statement regarding the whole accreditation thing. Makes me think that there is every chance he will stay now.
Giant Sphinx
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No club will pay troves $350 a year so I think he will stay. J Mac can go I don't think we will be worse off without him. Caf has to stay IMO he was great as a lead up forward in 2010 and injuries have killed him this year.
I'm surprised we haven't ( to date) sought out a Leroy replacement a bit harder.
The importance of dominant ruck performances seems to come to the fore in finals.
Our ruck and perhaps flag hopes, appear to be resting with Jolly and Wood.
Jolly is now injury prone and his knee sounds to be in strife...ho'd know for sure, but it sounds a degenerative condition to me, ie unlikely to improve significantly and likely to gradually worsen ( most knee conditions that are not ligament tears are degenerative, so just going with the odds here)
Wood is a boyish ******** who finally showed just a bit late this season. IF that improvement does continue, and it well may, then maybe he'd hold hos own in a finals series.
Maybe.
Let's say Jolly is unfit.
Wood and who for the finals??
We'd be hugely up against it. Well, you'd expect we'd be slaughtered there.
Options...dunno need to ask the experts...Hudson lured out of retirement, Hille, Griffen, make a play for Zac Clark, best in WAFL, just someone as I think we are very exposed here and this could seriously derail our chances.
We got mids coming out our arses, maybe one needs to be traded for a decent ruck option.
Ceglar and Witts appear another year away.
The importance of dominant ruck performances seems to come to the fore in finals.
Our ruck and perhaps flag hopes, appear to be resting with Jolly and Wood.
Jolly is now injury prone and his knee sounds to be in strife...ho'd know for sure, but it sounds a degenerative condition to me, ie unlikely to improve significantly and likely to gradually worsen ( most knee conditions that are not ligament tears are degenerative, so just going with the odds here)
Wood is a boyish ******** who finally showed just a bit late this season. IF that improvement does continue, and it well may, then maybe he'd hold hos own in a finals series.
Maybe.
Let's say Jolly is unfit.
Wood and who for the finals??
We'd be hugely up against it. Well, you'd expect we'd be slaughtered there.
Options...dunno need to ask the experts...Hudson lured out of retirement, Hille, Griffen, make a play for Zac Clark, best in WAFL, just someone as I think we are very exposed here and this could seriously derail our chances.
We got mids coming out our arses, maybe one needs to be traded for a decent ruck option.
Ceglar and Witts appear another year away.
I remember Dawes doing quite a good job against Adeliade in a final a couple of years ago. With Nathan Brown back we could move either him or Reid to CHF while Dawes does relief ruck work. Whether we want to risk injury to Dawes is another matter ofcourse.
Thanks, he's probably the best option from what we have I agree.
Wood and Dawes in PF/ GF rucking...or injured Jolly and Dawes sharing the ruck.
I just don't think it's enough back up, in a pretty critical area, but maybe you've gotta run the gauntlet with these things, not sure.
odoyle_rules
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Agree 100%!!!
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I suspect we will go in with a Jolly / Wood combo, Jolly / Witts or Wood / Witts.
The only possible ruck get might be a H-Mac for J-Mac type arrangement, but I'm pretty comfortable with what we have. Keeffe (and Ceglar...CEGLAR!) will be flogged this pre-season and can pinch hit if worst comes to worst.
The type of rucks that would be available to us now will really be no upgrade in my view. I'd go for Z Clarke, but with our trade bait and picks, wouldn't get the job done. Unless of course a bigger name than McCarthy was departing.
The only possible ruck get might be a H-Mac for J-Mac type arrangement, but I'm pretty comfortable with what we have. Keeffe (and Ceglar...CEGLAR!) will be flogged this pre-season and can pinch hit if worst comes to worst.
The type of rucks that would be available to us now will really be no upgrade in my view. I'd go for Z Clarke, but with our trade bait and picks, wouldn't get the job done. Unless of course a bigger name than McCarthy was departing.
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Towards the latter half of the year Leroy didnt offer much at all in the ruck or when drifting forward so going off that we should be better off with Dawes filling that role if we have no other options.
Other concerning thing is if Jolly is fit and Wood gets a game I dont recall a game where they have both been in the team and both played well. Wood and Jolly both in the same team with Nathan Brown back might make us top heavy aswell.........
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TheFreshBanana
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Apparently we are looking to put Witts onto the senior list in hope he can play out in 2012. I see him taking over Leigh Brown's role but probably more time up forward as the 3rd tall.
daics_35
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Yep we are, with our last pick in the draft. I think it would be very tough for him to play a game next year. I think he needs more time but if we are desperate then why not, he is 209cm, doesnt even need to jump to win hit outs.
If we do end up playing Witts I can't see him getting much time in the ruck. He's big, but he still needs to develop his game and get an idea of it all rather than being thrown in the deep end.