Woosha

[ehhh_morton]

What do you mean? What theory?

Worsfold continuing was one possibility. I'm not sure what there is to disagree about.

You seem confused. If there is a phobia of disagreement for the pure sake of it, you have it.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

That's the question you should be asking yourself. You wanted Worsfold gone. Now what?

Or did you only think as far ahead as the coach going?

Will you 'stand behind the club's decision' whoever we appoint?

Of course, I'm happy he's gone. But in your eyes this is doomsday!

Why should I ask myself. I've listed plenty of assistants that would be up to it. The best candidates in the country will apply for our top job and I'm certain the club will pick the best one.

 

[the harry]

I for one will be calling for the head of any new coach by round 10 next year if we are worse than 7-4.

 

[Goldfish]

I for one will be calling for the head of any new coach by round 10 next year if we are worse than 7-4.

Would be an amazing effort to be 7-4 by round 10.

6-4 or 7-3 on the other hand...

 

[gsmiths_s]

I for one will be calling for the head of any new coach by round 10 next year if we are worse than 7-4.

How are we supposed to be 7-4 from ten games?

 

[the harry]

Would be an amazing effort to be 7-4 by round 10.

6-4 or 7-3 on the other hand...

How are we supposed to be 7-4 from ten games?

Sorry needed a

This board has been silly for the last few days.

 

[Jack_the_Ninja]

Jeez, i go to Bali and get back and Worsfold quits ! last time I went to Bali John Todd got the tramp HappyTimes

 

[erbenz]

Great man, great servant of the club, and glad to see him flip the metaphorical proverbial to the media by skipping out on his press conference.

I for one add my support to the motion that all future B+F's are heretofore known as the John Worsfold Medal.

 

[Wild Westiger]

Regardless of whether Woosh should have quit or not, one thing is certain. He's been a wonderful servant of your club and a legend not only of the West Coast footy club, but also the AFL.

 

[Ian Dargie]

You seem confused. If there is a phobia of disagreement for the pure sake of it, you have it.

Now I'm definitely confused. I have a phobia of disagreement? Really?

And I still don't really understand why you bumped an earlier post of my mine. What point were you trying to make?

 

[Ian Dargie]

Of course, I'm happy he's gone. But in your eyes this is doomsday!

Pretty sure I never said anything like that.

Is this where you just resort to making stuff up because remaining grounded in reality is too hard? Does this not strike you as inadequate?

Why should I ask myself.

Because you wanted the coach gone and now that's happened.

 

[Small Moves]

Talking about Bali.. Interesting caption

 

[dajesmac]

Must've just got there, he was smashed at Newport in Freo on Wednesday night.

Knowing Darling he's probably not even aware Woosh has quit.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Pretty sure I never said anything like that.

Is this where you just resort to making stuff up because remaining grounded in reality is too hard? Does this not strike you as inadequate?

Because you wanted the coach gone and now that's happened.

Yes he is gone. Well done for observing that.

 

[Ian Dargie]

Yes he is gone. Well done for observing that.

What kind of response is this?

You just struggle whenever you're challenged on any point of substance, don't you?

You banged your little drum for Worsfold to go. Now what? How do we improve on the guy who won more than 60 percent of games in the past three seasons? Or did you only think as far ahead as Worsfold leaving, without any clue about what should happen thereafter?

 

[Boohemian]

What kind of response is this?

You just struggle whenever you're challenged on any point of substance, don't you?

You banged your little drum for Worsfold to go. Now what? How do we improve on the guy who won more than 60 percent of games in the past three seasons? Or did you only think as far ahead as Worsfold leaving, without any clue about what should happen thereafter?

Now that Worsfold has stepped aside, on his own accord, surely your time of frothing at the mouth has reached its end.

Perhaps you can add to the conversation, and suggest possible replacements, as opposed to berating every person that wanted Worsfold to move aside.

 

[Ian Dargie]

Now that Worsfold has stepped aside, on his own accord, surely your time of frothing at the mouth has reached its end.

I don't know what you mean by this.

Perhaps you can add to the conversation, and suggest possible replacements, as opposed to berating every person that wanted Worsfold to move aside.

When it comes to replacements, I'd first like to hear from those who were so keen for Worsfold to go. How should we improve on a guy who won 60 percent of games over the past three years?

Have you figured out what incumbent means yet?

There are these things called homonyms. Have you heard of them?

 

[Boohemian]

Quit deflecting. Worsfold has stepped aside. Name a replacement.

 

[Ian Dargie]

Quit deflecting. Worsfold has stepped aside. Name a replacement.

Who's deflecting, champ?

Before Worsfold quit, my view was that there were no stand-out replacements waiting in the wings. So it would be ridiculous for me to now turn around and start barring up about the options. That's why it's incumbent upon those who wanted Worsfold to go to tell us which appointment is going to make us better off than we were with Worsold. This is the situation they wanted. Now what?

If I was a betting man, my money would be on Burns. Whether or not he is an improvement on Worsfold remains to be seen.

 

[Boohemian]

It's not incumbent on any dissenter to name a replacement, just as much as it wasn't on Worsfold to name an heir upon his retirement.That was your MO, prayers to those that refused.

Are we still arguing as to whether Worsfold should stay? Sorry, but that ship has sailed.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

I don't know what you mean by this.

When it comes to replacements, I'd first like to hear from those who were so keen for Worsfold to go. How should we improve on a guy who won 60 percent of games over the past three years?

Have you figured out what incumbent means yet?

There are these things called homonyms. Have you heard of them?

I have listed coaches who I believe (from the outside looking in) could have the skills that are capable to be a head coach. I believe they should be put through a stringent interview process of where they believe the list is at, how they can improve the list, identifying our strengths and weaknesses as a playing group but also as coaching staff, how they see our strength and conditioning strategies and provide a game plan that will lead us to our next premiership and beyond. Then those on the selection committee will make the best judgement call.

You believed Woosha was the best man for the job, but he didn't. His views towards the job were shared by us on here that he was tired and it was time for change. That's what we were calling for. Do we know who the best person to take over the job is currently, no. But the board and selection committee will know who that is in the next month or so and I am excited to see who they believe that is.

 

[Ian Dargie]

It's not incumbent on any dissenter to name a replacement.

Now that they've got their wish, it is absolutely incumbent upon those who wanted Worsfold to go to tell us who should replace him.

The best argument for replacing a coach is that someone else would do a better job. If people want to make that argument they need to have some kind of view about who ticks that box.

On a side note, I think you should change your name to Captain Homonym in a hilarious nod to the fact that you don't understand how words with shared spellings and pronunciations sometimes have distinct meanings.

 

[Ian Dargie]

I have listed coaches who I believe (from the outside looking in) could have the skills that are capable to be a head coach.

Which one of them is most likely to improve on Worsfold's record over the past three years?

You believed Woosha was the best man for the job, but he didn't. His views towards the job were shared by us on here that he was tired and it was time for change. That's what we were calling for. Do we know who the best person to take over the job is currently, no. But the board and selection committee will know who that is in the next month or so and I am excited to see who they believe that is.

Worsfold didn't want the job anymore. That's his prerogative.

But I'm interested in your selective support for the board. They're replacing Worsfold, so you completely delegate all your opinions on the matter to them. But if Worsfold had wanted to stay and they had renewed his contract, you would have whined about it. If they appoint someone who does a shitty job, you'll criticise them.

You can't have it both ways. You either make your own judgements or you toe the line. You want to switch between these settings, backing the board when you think you need cover. Admittedly, when you try to dissent, like when you criticised the club for not trying to 'shop around' a player eligible for free agency, you expose your inherent silliness.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Now that they've got their wish, it is absolutely incumbent upon those who wanted Worsfold to go to tell us who should replace him.

The best argument for replacing a coach is that someone else would do a better job. If people want to make that argument they need to have some kind of view about who ticks that box.

Given Woosha was burnt out and quit is that really applicable? He was by his own admission not up to the task. Therefor the list of candidates more suited to doing the job is pretty bloody long.

It is hardly incumbent on people who assess our match day performance week after week as supporters to pick coach candidates. We've made the finals twice in six years and it's questionable whether we will next year. It's not what could happen in the event of a coach change that is important, it's what has happened over the last six years that matters. That's what the club makes judgements on and the same applies to us.

 

[Ian Dargie]

Given Woosha was burnt out and quit is that really applicable? He was by his own admission not up to the task. Therefor the list of candidates more suited to doing the job is pretty bloody long.

Ok. So pick one. Tell me who is most likely to improve on Worsfold's performance.

It is hardly incumbent on people who assess our match day performance week after week as supporters to pick coach candidates.

It is if they wanted to replace a coach who won more than 60 percent over the past three seasons.

They got what they wanted. Now what?

They had an opinion on whether Worsfold should stay or go. Now they should own up to the immediate implications of him going i.e. who will do a better job?

We've made the finals twice in six years and it's questionable whether we will next year.

We've made the finals two out of the past of the past three years and pointing out that we don't know what will happen in 2014 isn't a real argument.

It's not what could happen in the event of a coach change that is important from an outside perspective, it's what has happened over the last six years that matters. That's what the club makes judgements on and the same applies to us.

As you've pointed out, the club didn't make the judgement in this case.

And why is six years the magic timeframe? Why don't we look at the past 12 years or the past three years?

Does your argument rely on cropping history to make it as unflattering as possible?