worst trade in afl ever

[SaintsforLife]

Barry Brooks anyone?... Traded him in for pick 5 (Salopek) and another pick (pick 31 or something).

I'll see that and raise you one by the saints. Even though it was the national draft, in 93 or 94 we used our first pick, 8, for Michael Frost! WTF!
Also, whatever we gave up for Newport and Ralphsmith. I hated those hacks. That f***ing hairdo of Ralphsmiths drove me bananas.

 

[Vixen]

Why? Medders was hardly a star this year and we wouldn't trade for him with Tarrant at the moment.

Reid is a non-factor, not that pie fan's would admit it.

isn't that fremantle?

 

[Ok Gary!!]

Some people still have no idea...Fremantle did not trade Groom for Mcloed, please get it right....Nor did they ever have or indeed the option of Lloyd. Absolute ignorance.


It states in the AFL almanac that they traded McLeod for Groom, it could be wrong, if it is then how did it really go down?

 

[Bestbird]

I don't know why people always bring this up as bad trading. Freo had to get some experienced players, and they couldn't have got Lloyd (or Wirrpanda or any of the other players taken with compensatory picks). To get uncontracted players, the AFL gave away compensation picks.

The only way Freo could have got Lloyd was by not taking anyone from another club, then coming last in 1995 (which they probably would have done if they hadn't taken any uncontracted players).

There's plenty of funny Freo trading moments without manufacturing them.

Thats true in terms of the fact that the likes of Wirra, Lloyd and Lucas weren't available to be drafted by Freo

But they should have probably tried to obtain more than average/fringe players for those allocated compensation picks from other clubs at the time.

 

[Mr Q]

Some people still have no idea...Fremantle did not trade Groom for Mcloed, please get it right....

Actually, that one you did do, and followed it up by trading Phil Matera (and pick 3) for David Hynes. For some reason Freo were allowed to pick up a few players prior to the trade week and then on-trade them. Not quite sure exactly how it worked, but Freo did trade out McLeod and Matera.

The ones people make the mistakes about are Lloyd, Wirrpanda and King who were compensatory picks.


Mind you, for shit + shit = high draft pick, you can't go past Anthony Begovich and Scott Watters to Sydney for pick 1.

 

[Tiger08]

Stephen O'Reilly trade wins comfortably. Absolute gold. I miss Weaver.. one of the better posters to come on these boards.

 

[Swampfox]

The one that stands out because of the calibre of the 2 players involved was the swap between Ian Stewart and Bill Barrot

On paper it was a good swap yet it turned out to be a huge win for Richmond

Stewart went on his merry way to win his 3rd Brownlow Medal while Barrot played only 2 games with the Saints and a handful of games for Carlton

Ironically both were named in the centre for their original team in their respective teams of the century

Stewart also made the Richmond team of the century even though he only played 78 games with them

 

[evo]

*sigh* yep the good ol' days; when we were actually one of the most professional clubs.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Hawthorn traded for Barry Young. Can't remember what we gave up for him but anything outside a top 100 pick says it was a bad trade.

 

[OniAu]

some appaling collingwood trade to the hawks a few years back , i think its the one that actually landed us egan to add insult to injury.

Pick 10 was traded to Collingwood for Bo Nixon and Pick 7

so the pies traded a dud player and swap picks to go down 3 picks in the draft , work that out

 

[Books]

some appaling collingwood trade to the hawks a few years back , i think its the one that actually landed us egan to add insult to injury.

Pick 10 was traded to Collingwood for Bo Nixon and Pick 7

so the pies traded a dud player and swap picks to go down 3 picks in the draft , work that out

Actually it was Pick 10 and 37 to Collingwood
for
Pick 7 and Bo Nixon to Hawks.

To make it even worse, the Pies then gave pick 37 to Eagles for Chad Morrison. The Eagles used the pick on Mark LeCras.
Meanwhile Hawthorn used pick 7 on Jordan Lewis but the Pies got Chris Egan with pick 10.

Shocking deal all round for Collingwood.

 

[OniAu]

Actually it was Pick 10 and 37 to Collingwood
for
Pick 7 and Bo Nixon to Hawks.

To make it even worse, the Pies then gave pick 37 to Eagles for Chad Morrison. The Eagles used the pick on Mark LeCras.
Meanwhile Hawthorn used pick 7 on Jordan Lewis but the Pies got Chris Egan with pick 10.

Shocking deal all round for Collingwood.

still defies logic, i cant work out how that is beneficial to the pies, its like we are upgrading your first pick for taking a dud off our hands lol

bit harsh we got the raw end of the deal when we gave away the player, usually works the other way.

 

[Books]

It's quite funny that the Stephen O'Rielly trade was something like the 4th post on this thread, and really it SHOULD have ended there, but people want to keep putting up 'worse' trades.

There will not EVER be a worse trade than that again. NEVER. It nearly sent a club to the wall and out of the competition FFS! Name me another trade that has come even close to doing that?

Settle down champ, all this happened after a series of very unlikely events. The trade itself wasn't that bad, everything that followed definately gave the end result which was very damaging. But thats like saying "crows traded Kurt Tippett for johnny Knoxville, and whilst at the crows he rooted the CEO's wife who gave birth to a sadist who joined the taliban and dropped a bomb on AAMI stadium", yes that would be a bad eventuality, but a bad trade could not be blamed for it!

LOL at your imagination.

That reminds me of Matthew Robran. He came over to Hawthorn in 1991 and was living with the family of a prominent board member. His daughter fell pregnant during the year and Robran had to leave in a hurry after one season!

(That is the story I heard, I cannot guarantee the truth of it. I do know the Hawks wouldn't trade him so he had to stand out of footy for a year! Then we traded him to the Crows for a draft pick - and we used that pick on his brother, Jon Robran!!).

 

[Mr Q]

The real irony of that O'Reilly trade as the worst ever is that it involved Freo - but they weren't the ones getting screwed.

 

[pacemaker]

WOW Fremantle were really useless weren't they??

Unbelieveable what they did back then?

How did the decision maker for all those trades get hired?? Did he even go to uni???

 

[Winky]

WOW Fremantle were really useless weren't they??

Unbelieveable what they did back then?

How did the decision maker for all those trades get hired?? Did he even go to uni???

There is no one answer. Maybe just any trade by Freo? The one that really amused me was the involving the return of Peter Bell after Freo got rid of him and then had to go cap in hand to get him back.

 

[Ok Gary!!]

There is no one answer. Maybe just any trade by Freo? The one that really amused me was the involving the return of Peter Bell after Freo got rid of him and then had to go cap in hand to get him back.

You can't really blame freo, hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I still can't imagine why they traded so heavily for good players, you would trade heavily for absolute guns but thats about it. The simple rule of never trade first round picks should be followed, as with previous examples it can really hurt down the line. Peter Bell and Chris Groom were never going to be what a first rounder would be worth in time.

 

[Bugiera]

Farmer for Schultz, definate contender for worst trade ever

 

[sabre_ac]

The art of drafting is a far more sophisticated process than it was when Fremantle was around and thus the value placed on draft picks is far higher...Its a bit harsh to compare what Freo did to how GC will play it out.

Much the same to comparing the physical aspect's of our game now to the 80's or 70's...Your comparing very different things.

GC won't hold all their draft picks, start up clubs are not going to sit at the bottom of the ladder while their list matures for 3-4 years...That's not fair on the fan base or the players themselves.

You can guarantee that GC will trade some of it's picks to get in established players...Freo did much the same thing.

I agree however, Neesham with his arogance certainly did the club no favours initially...However I think we have come a long way.

I refuse to acknowledge the Bell trade was poorly done, the guy was a champion and was our first real captain.

Tarrant may have overpaid but you get that...Somewhat easier to take consiering his season this year and the Pies total poor drafting.

 

[WN123]

Going back in time a bit. About 1980 Essendon traded Neville Fields (who was a pretty decent player but his best games were behind him) to South Melbourne for Terry Daniher and the right to recruit Neale Daniher (I think Neale must have been in South's zone)

Terry went on to be a premiership Captain, Victorian captain, VFL (in those days) players association MVP and I think he was All Australian Captain. Neale was our B & F in 1981 at 19 and was named Captain for 1982 (although he never played as Captain)

 

[Wokko]

...Tarrant may have overpaid but you get that...Somewhat easier to take consiering his season this year and the Pies total poor drafting.

lolwut? Our whole list is pretty much from the draft. Even Leigh Brown

 

[freo1]

I think it's pretty pointless people bagging freo for trading untried players or draft picks. for example, Sure in hindsight trading mcleod was a mistake, but at the time who was to know that he would go on to become what he has?

In the same regard you should bag hawthorn and st kilda for overlooking judd.

it just doesnt make sense to bag any team out for trading a pic that was used to get a good player or an untried player.

Just because a player is a high pick or whatever doesnt mean they'll be any good.

Another example can be the poster who commented on carlton giving geelong pick 31 for mansfield and then pick 31 gett Chappy. i mean, wtf? you can't bag a club out for that! just stupid.

 

[ozpie]

Tarrant may have overpaid but you get that...Somewhat easier to take consiering his season this year and the Pies total poor drafting.

yeah, what the hell are u talkin about? a freo supporter should never accuse another club of poor drafting. If your refering to Ben Reid i can assure you he will be a player when he bulks up a bit, he is only 20yr old u know?, Id say getting Beams, Goldsack, Swan, Anthony, Dick, Harry O and Maxwell with picks after 30 or rookie draft proves that we are no Fremantle shockers when it comes to drafting

 

[markr]

still defies logic, i cant work out how that is beneficial to the pies, its like we are upgrading your first pick for taking a dud off our hands lol

I think Nixon was just there because trades have to involve a player, you can't just swap picks (at least that used to be the case, not sure if it has changed). So the actual trade was 10 and 37 for pick 7.

 

[macbeth7]

as an affront to all trades - or just trades done because the clubs wanted to be involved in trade week

the brett chalmers (adelaide) ian downsborough (port) was a nil all draw
ben nelson and somebody to adelaide for andrew eccles and david gallagher was also quite entertaining.

kris massie the other player, didnt do too bad for them but we got screwed again.