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With the spate of retirements and form worries on the horizon, who are some of the young guns that we could be looking at to get into the Australian team sometime in the near future, here are some names I would love to see in the baggygreen sometime soon.

Phillip Hughes - A real find by the NSW blues, with another consitant season in the domestic season will put Hughes to the forfront of the test selectors minds.

Tim Paine - I think, could become Australias next keeper - batsmen, opens the batting for the Tasmanian Tigers and made a positive double hundred last season, is still only 24, and a long time ahead of him.

Steven Smith - Another find by the NSW blues, Smith is a rippingleg break bowler who is also more that capable of batting in the top 6 aswell. is still only 19 as well and plenty of time to develop.

Moises Henriques - A great all round prospect, able to bowl more than handy medium - fast, and also able to bat in the top 7. a great leader who almost single handidly won the under 19 world cup a few years back.

Micahel Hill - A great all round batsmen and one who is on the brink of breaking into the strong Victorian batting line up, a really great leader as well, and super in the field as well, subbing in the Boxing day test just gone.

Usman Khawaja - yet another NSW blues player, Khawaja is a real find, able to bat any where in the top order, khawaja could possibly be the first native born (Pakistan) to play for Australia in quite some time.

Burt Cockley - 22 year old Burt Cockley has taken all before him this season, taking 14 wickets in just 4 games at an impressive average of 17.

Liam Davis - A very impressive compact batsmen from WA, Davis is an over agresive opener who possesses all the shots, could be a real find, is only 24 as well.

is there any one who you think could play a part in Australias future, under the age of 24.
 
Josh Hazlewood - 17 year old fast bowler from Tamworth, already with a first class debut under his belt. Bowls very quick, is around 200cm tall now and gets steepling bounce from a nice high arm action. Currently has a few 'Harmison' tendencies, but should be able to garner more control as he matures (unlike poor old Harmy!)

Theo Doropolous - 23 year old batsman who has just broken into the powerful WA batting lineup. Being primarily used as a 'hitter' at the moment, but has an excellent technique and is a class player. Hopefully he isn't pigeon-holed early as a one-day specialist as this kid can really play.

Nick Buchanan - 18 year old all-rounder. Son of former coach. Fantastic player, only recently committed to cricket full-time after previously signing a Super 14 Rugby contract with the QLD Reds he changed his mind after one year, stating cricket is his #1 love. Needs to mature and play a bit of cricket after some time away, but seriously talented.

Alister McDermott - 18 year old fast bowler and son of disgraced property developer, but champion fast bowler Billy the Kid! Steams in, has a strong action but at this stage is still only bowling medium pace at best. Has good control but his main issue is his relatively gentle pace when progressing to senior ranks. Should quicken up when he fills out a bit - very skinny kid.

Just a note, there has only ever been one father son combination to play test cricket for Australia which is quite surprising. Hopefully young Macdermott, one fo the Marsh boys (if they don't play AFL!) or even young Jack Boon can address this issue in the cmiong years!
 
You blokes pretty much named all the ones i can think of, the only other one that comes to mind is James Pattinson, brother of Darren, former English test cricketer! :D He's taller than his brother, very quick and can hold a bat, i think he's 18, should be a good prospect. He should be in the Vic team now, but we've got too many good quicks for him to get a game.
 

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Callum Ferguson, 24 - Finally got his game together this season, averaging 43 in the FRC with a strike rate of over 100.

Tom Cooper, 22 - Averaging 58 from his first four one day games.

Nathan Reardon, 24 - Averaging 36 in the FRC, should get more chances batting at 3.

Peter George, 22 - Only played the two Sheffield Shield matches, but took 10 wickets. Should get a lot more opportunities in the near future.

Jon Holland, 21 - Personally don't rate him all that highly yet, but all young spinners are seemingly a chance for Australia now.

Gary Putland, 22 - Left arm swing bowler. Not a lot of young ones around the scene, looks a good prospect for 20/20 and ODI's.

And I know he isn't under 24, but 25 isn't that far away.

Cameron Borgas, 25 - Averaging over 50 in the Sheffield Shield this season.
 
Warner is like Doropolous. Has been fast tracked into his states 50 over and 20/20 side and is an impressive power hitter. Hopefully for his sake, the powers that be pay attention to developing his 4 day game so his technique doesn't go to shit from hitting all the time.

Both of them are talented, and even in 20/20 most of their big hitting is through proper cricket shots - not just out and out slogs.

Warner picking up an IPL contract hopefully doesn't mess with his focus on the longer form of the game.
 
left field but I wonder if cricket Australia would ever have the balls to get Aussie Rules back and really target Luke Ball. (Would cost a lot of money) Totally unlikely but he was an absolute champion and natural junior cricketer who was destined to be a professional cricketer. It was not a matter of if he would play for Victoria but how soon and most likely for Australia. A bit in the mould of brad Hodge. I dont think St Kilda would let it happen as he is too much of a good player and great leader for them, but he is of the type of charachter Australia are going to need he is still young his body has struggled with demands of Aussie Rules and has the talent.

Apart from that I am excited about the young talent coming through.
Pomerbach, Hughes and Marsh all look good on the batting side. What happened to Cosgrove can someone get himout of McDonalds he is too good not to be playing at least first class cricket.
We have plenty of good keepers. Henriques and Smith look good all round options.
I also think we have some good young quicks and our depth at the moment could be better than it has ever been, just need to get games into the players eg Siddle, Hilfenhuas etc. Bird has hopefully stopped chuckking it.
The spinners are my only real concern.

If anything all Australia needs to do is stay calm during tough time s becuase it wont be long before we are back up there.

I would love to see a 7th side enter the shield that would be there to develop our young guns, as michael Hill and aidan Blizzard from vic and other should be playing games.
 

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what could a possible young guns team be, quailfication, under 24 then, any one wanna give it a go.

1) Phillip Hughes
2) Liam Davis
3) Nathan Reardon
4) Callum Ferguson
5) Theo Doropolous
6) Steven Smith
7) Matthew Wade
8) Moises Henriques
9) James Patinson
10) Burt Cockley
11) Josh Hazelwood

12) David Warner

impressive talent there, would need to step it up to compete with the likes of the Vics and NSW teams (oh wait, half the NSW team are in there:D)
 
smiddaz123 said:
Paine is better than Wade with ease.
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Wade, 12 matches, 36 catches, 6 matches, 7 innings, 118 runs @ 16.86.
Paine, 10 innings, 22 catches, 5 matches, 10 innings, 277 runs @ 34.63.

keeper is a keeper before a batsmen, I have always thought that, number 6 is still a batsmens spot, so unless they can make hundreds, they should not bat there, point is, Wade is the better keeper,
 
HFF_07 said:
Wade, 12 matches, 36 catches, 6 matches, 7 innings, 118 runs @ 16.86.
Paine, 10 innings, 22 catches, 5 matches, 10 innings, 277 runs @ 34.63.

keeper is a keeper before a batsmen, I have always thought that, number 6 is still a batsmens spot, so unless they can make hundreds, they should not bat there, point is, Wade is the better keeper,
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Using statistics of catches/stumpings does not tell you who the better keeper is.

It's about judging the way they take their chances, different factors can influence the keepers statistics like bowlers and pitches.
 
CAS79 said:
Using statistics of catches/stumpings does not tell you who the better keeper is.

It's about judging the way they take their chances, different factors can influence the keepers statistics like bowlers and pitches.
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uh, but they are a very good indication, would you like me to delve deeper and get the byes and leg byes from each game as well now would you,
 

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HFF_07 said:
Wade, 12 matches, 36 catches, 6 matches, 7 innings, 118 runs @ 16.86.
Paine, 10 innings, 22 catches, 5 matches, 10 innings, 277 runs @ 34.63.

keeper is a keeper before a batsmen, I have always thought that, number 6 is still a batsmens spot, so unless they can make hundreds, they should not bat there, point is, Wade is the better keeper,
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Paine is twice the batsman, and the amount of catches Wade has taken is a reflection on the bowling. He has obviously had more catches to take.

Unless Paine has dropped multiple simple catches, you're theory doesn't hold up.

Paine is a good keeper, a far superior batsman. Wade moved to Victoria because Paine was ahead of him.

The Australian keeper has pretty much always been the best keeper-batsman, not keeper.

Also, is the bolded part a typo? Is one of those meant to be innings or matches? Because you should really list both amoutn of matches or both amount of innings, not one for Paine and one for Wade.
 
smiddaz123 said:
Paine is twice the batsman, and the amount of catches Wade has taken is a reflection on the bowling. He has obviously had more catches to take.

Unless Paine has dropped multiple simple catches, you're theory doesn't hold up.

Paine is a good keeper, a far superior batsman. Wade moved to Victoria because Paine was ahead of him.

The Australian keeper has pretty much always been the best keeper-batsman, not keeper.

Also, is the bolded part a typo? Is one of those meant to be innings or matches? Because you should really list both amoutn of matches or both amount of innings, not one for Paine and one for Wade.
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That is why Darren Berry never got a gig for Australia, he is the bext keeper in Australia in the last 25 years, even better than Ian Healy IMO.
 
smiddaz123 said:
Paine is twice the batsman, and the amount of catches Wade has taken is a reflection on the bowling. He has obviously had more catches to take.

Unless Paine has dropped multiple simple catches, you're theory doesn't hold up.

Paine is a good keeper, a far superior batsman. Wade moved to Victoria because Paine was ahead of him.

The Australian keeper has pretty much always been the best keeper-batsman, not keeper.

Also, is the bolded part a typo? Is one of those meant to be innings or matches? Because you should really list both amoutn of matches or both amount of innings, not one for Paine and one for Wade.[/quote]

first is innings kept, then innings batted in. ;)
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