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Originally posted by Hooper
your looking at the wrong records son there is a b. prausley he even had a son that played for melbourne J. Prausley

Better ring Jim Main & Russell Holmesby then.

Alphabetically it jumps from Pratt to Preen in "The Encyclopedia of League Footballers- EVERY AFL/VFL player since 1897."

A google search only returns mis-spellings of Presley.
 
Originally posted by Darky
Better ring Jim Main & Russell Holmesby then.

Alphabetically it jumps from Pratt to Preen in "The Encyclopedia of League Footballers- EVERY AFL/VFL player since 1897."

A google search only returns mis-spellings of Presley.
There is your problem he was captain for a year in 1896 sorry got my facts wrong and then was dumped cause tthey thought he he was too inexperienced
 
Originally posted by vicki
Don't you listen??
I will say this slowly ..... Kerr is not a vice-captain so was not
elevated to captain in the absence of Ben.

Have you got that now ?
Is that too difficult to understand :rolleyes:

Ok fair point, i can see why he was elevated for Captain with the injuries you have, but why is he a vice captain to start with?

Yes he is a great promising player, but one of the main reasons he was promoted would have to be the fact that the eagles are scared of losing him. And you would be kidding yourself if you thought otherwise.
I'm not saying it is a bad ploy, cause it could be what keeps him in perth.
But i still think that there would of been better options
 
And i think embley, gardiner and Rowan Jones are the other vice captins.

So Judd is teh obvious choice seeming the other 2 are injured and Jones has only recently caome into teh team.
 

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Originally posted by Darky
Better ring Jim Main & Russell Holmesby then.

Alphabetically it jumps from Pratt to Preen in "The Encyclopedia of League Footballers- EVERY AFL/VFL player since 1897."

A google search only returns mis-spellings of Presley.

Your are the ultimate football guru mate, 11579 posts, THATS CRAZYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
 
Well according to the AFL website, Wayne Carey became "the second youngest VFL/AFL captain at 21 years and 304 days when he took over from Matthew Larkin".

I think Judd is only 20 at the moment so how Carey can be the 2nd but Judd the 16th doesn't make sense. You wouldn't think there were too many young captains between then and now.
 
Originally posted by coasting
Well according to the AFL website, Wayne Carey became "the second youngest VFL/AFL captain at 21 years and 304 days when he took over from Matthew Larkin".

I think Judd is only 20 at the moment so how Carey can be the 2nd but Judd the 16th doesn't make sense. You wouldn't think there were too many young captains between then and now.

Probably because Carey was the full time captain, where as Judd being the 16th youngest person to captain a side takes into account players who only filled in for the actual captain. Carey was the captain while when Cousins comes back from injury Judd wont be the captain anymore
 
Originally posted by coasting
Today on TV they said Chris Judd was the 13th youngest player to be captain of an AFL/VFL team. Does anyone know who the youngest was?

Rieoldt probably captained the Saints for a game when Harvey went down a couple of years ago and we had rotating matchday captains.
 
Originally posted by Ron
Ok fair point, i can see why he was elevated for Captain with the injuries you have, but why is he a vice captain to start with?

Yes he is a great promising player, but one of the main reasons he was promoted would have to be the fact that the eagles are scared of losing him.

so the fact that Judd's has strong leadership qualities, is well respected and admired among his team mates and the club wouldn't have been a reason to make him one of four vice captains?
 
Originally posted by Ron
So why not Kerr then?
If it is only for a part time replacement for a few weeks then it makes more sense for the team to make Kerr captain rather than Judd.
This moves reeks of desperation from the eagles.

Kerr captain? Youve got to be joking.... Judd is the most natural leader at the club... even the players say when they see Judd at training they all stand around in awe watching the things he does.... he has the respect of every player on that team. Got nothing to do with desperation for us to keep him here... as everyone knows the Eagles have never tried to pressure him into anything including his last contract. As for slotting into the Melbourne midfield.... what are they going to pay Judd's salary with? Bottletops?
 
Originally posted by Adam Gilchrist
Kerr captain? Youve got to be joking.... Judd is the most natural leader at the club... even the players say when they see Judd at training they all stand around in awe watching the things he does.... he has the respect of every player on that team. Got nothing to do with desperation for us to keep him here... as everyone knows the Eagles have never tried to pressure him into anything including his last contract. As for slotting into the Melbourne midfield.... what are they going to pay Judd's salary with? Bottletops?

Wouldn't you have been better off having someone as captain in the game against Port who could of stood up when needed and provided some inspiration.
The eagles had a great chance to win that game, but no one could stand up and do something about it, which is where a captain comes in.

Fair enough that Judd isn't a regular captain, so might not be so inspirational, and also that the eagles were missing a few of their more experienced players who could step up.
But where was Judd when the game was on the line, he was no where to be seen.
 

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Originally posted by Ron
Wouldn't you have been better off having someone as captain in the game against Port who could of stood up when needed and provided some inspiration.
The eagles had a great chance to win that game, but no one could stand up and do something about it, which is where a captain comes in.

Fair enough that Judd isn't a regular captain, so might not be so inspirational, and also that the eagles were missing a few of their more experienced players who could step up.
But where was Judd when the game was on the line, he was no where to be seen.

When Nathan Buckley gets tagged out of a game does that make him a bad leader?
 
Originally posted by Ron
Wouldn't you have been better off having someone as captain in the game against Port who could of stood up when needed and provided some inspiration.
The eagles had a great chance to win that game, but no one could stand up and do something about it, which is where a captain comes in.

Fair enough that Judd isn't a regular captain, so might not be so inspirational, and also that the eagles were missing a few of their more experienced players who could step up.
But where was Judd when the game was on the line, he was no where to be seen.

the thing that lost the eagles the game today was the fact that they couldn't kick straight not because they lacked an 'inspirational act' from Juddy.

As for being 'no where to be seen' players have off days sometimes, yes, that means even Juddy. With Cuz out he was heavily tagged by Port. It happens, but is no way a reflection of his leadership qualities.

suggesting that Kerr would have been a better choice for captain than Juddy just shows how little you know about the eagles.
 
When Nathan Buckley gets tagged out of a game does that make him a bad leader?


In a nut shell YES, you expect consistancy out of your club leaders.

If players see there capt or leaders getting beat or tanking it they usally fall with them
 
Originally posted by coasting
When Nathan Buckley gets tagged out of a game does that make him a bad leader?

I don't think it does, but when the Pies are in trouble either bucks will step up, or one of our other leaders will step up, and if no one does we usually lose the match.
With the match against port meaning so much to the eagles, seeing as a loss just about ended your finals hopes, and also with a few more experienced players missing, i would of thought the player nominated as captain would of stepped up in the face of adversary and tried his heart out to try and get his team other the line.
Judd is an awesome player, and in a few years could be a good captain, but i think today showed the only reason he is a captain is because the eagles are scared of losing him.
 
Originally posted by Ron
I don't think it does, but when the Pies are in trouble either bucks will step up, or one of our other leaders will step up, and if no one does we usually lose the match.
With the match against port meaning so much to the eagles, seeing as a loss just about ended your finals hopes, and also with a few more experienced players missing, i would of thought the player nominated as captain would of stepped up in the face of adversary and tried his heart out to try and get his team other the line.
Judd is an awesome player, and in a few years could be a good captain, but i think today showed the only reason he is a captain is because the eagles are scared of losing him.

I think you are a bleeding idiot.

Are you suggesting that Judd didn't try his heart out against Port?
As with our entire team, he tried his guts out and missed some shots on goal he probably should have nailed.
He was well tagged but thats the nature of the game and had nothing to do with the final result- sometimes Judd gets a heavy tag, the result of which is that the likes of Kerr and Fletcher are left free. In my book, that's job well done, and in the end our onballers dominated the run of play against Port.

As a matter of fact, over the last two weeks (of Judd's captaincy)
West Coast have played arguably the best football of their season so far, smashing Essendon and being extremely competitive v Port with our worst injury list this year. I was extremely frustrated that we couldn't put Port away, but yesterday if you told me were going to lose by 26 points to Port, with the players we had out I would have taken that result.
If you want to cite some kind of mystical connection between Judd as captain and what today showed, then the only logical conclusion available is that Judd is doing an extremely good job, because the last two weeks have probably been the best fortnight of football we've played all season despite having our worst injury list for the year.

Throughout this thread, you've been cobbling together circular arguments which don't actually mean anything. Judd is our vc, he was appointed on the basis of his leadership qualities, he's done a very good job as acting captain. The only reason he is captain at the moment is because he is the best available choice. With our entire team fit, he'd probably be 4th in line behind Cousins, Gardiner and Embley, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Its pretty sad when you have to hunt frantically through something like this to find signs that West Coast are terrified of losing Judd. Given our track record with victorian recruits, Judd's previous signing, loyalty, and outstanding future potential, I think there is indeed a section of the footballing community that are absolutely terrified of losing Judd for the duration of his career, but they don't reside in Western Australia.
 

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Originally posted by theferrett
Yeah def 16th youngest

PortProudWA - hi bitch, Josh is def coming back to WA

Firstly.....please start my name with a captial letter....Its Bitch!!

Is he, well it wont do you much good if he does, but then again Freo are use to BUYING players and mucking up their career's, hence why Flash is now playing back in the Port Magpies!!

We will just wait and see hey;)
 

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