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But Frawley is not a Cats player.
Hence his qualifier 'I am the eternal optimist'.
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But Frawley is not a Cats player.
Not sure about Dawson playing as a HFF or Joel playing as our CHF.I am the eternal optimist.
The premiership is ours for the taking. And how could it not be with a fully fit team with everyone back to their best like this.
-- Rivers -- Frawley -- Enright
-- Mackie -- Taylor -- Guthrie
-- S Selwood -- Dangerfield -- Christensen
-- Simpson -- J Selwood -- Caddy
-- Ablett -- Vardy/Walker -- Motlop
-- Bartel -- Hawkins -- Johnson
Int: Blicavs, Duncan, Stokes
Menzel
No body will come close to heading us.
That edit of yours is bloody hilarious, YOTC
But Frawley is not a Cats player.
No upping of offers. If he wants us it's for what we offer as a club, not for the dollars and tenure.
If we miss out, so be it.
We are playing. We just don't go all-in on the second hand.Unfortunately the AFL world isn't like that anymore.
If we want to compete in the FA stakes we HAVE to start playing the game.
I agree.No upping of offers. If he wants us it's for what we offer as a club, not for the dollars and tenure.
If we miss out, so be it.
No upping of offers. If he wants us it's for what we offer as a club, not for the dollars and tenure.
If we miss out, so be it.
Usually agree with you catempire, but I'm with strauchnyy on this one. We can't decide not to throw good money at Frawley based on the hypothetical possibility that we will need more space in the cap should Dangerfield become available. Frawley would be a huge get for the future of our club and, importantly, he's a player we know is available. I'm also not convinced that a 6k per year offer would preclude us from landing Danger anyway, especially given the spate of retirements due to come at the end of next year, which will surely free up considerable cap space.
Up the offer.
I know what you are both saying, and to be clear, I'm not advocating rigidity and inflexibility. I'm saying, if what has been reported is true - that we have offered something like 5 years @ $500k - then that is close to the upper ceiling of what we should be offering. If Freo wins his services because they pay more than what the club believes is reasonable, then so be it.Overall yes, that should be our long term view. But there are also times when we need to be flexible and treat some situations differently.
The afl, especially recently, is a ruthless competition and if we refuse to budge and be flexible and adapt to situations, we get left behind.
If we refuse to move a tiny bit on frawley, that tiny bit will cost us dearly.
2016 there will be no lonergan, no rivers, probably no mackie and a 30 year old Taylor.. With a 5 gamer in kolo to take the no.1 forward. Hamling I doubt will even be on the list.
That backline will not only be leaking goals, but it will leave it extremely hard to develop young players and are next generation. We can risk more inexperienced players in the side now because our defence is strong and it takes more inside 50s to score against us.
Without frawley, we have no one to play on the no.1 forwards.
All because we refuse to give frawley an extra year because we don't want to be flexible. Pfft. Do that and we will go backwards and get overtaken by every body.
In the long term I agree, keep the pay structure as is, but when a dangerfield comes along or a very good player who fits our most dire need comes along, you adapt and go hard for them.
I like that in theory but the reality is if we take that approach to all our top-end trade targets, we won't land many....if any. (Apologies for the Scribe lyric)No upping of offers. If he wants us it's for what we offer as a club, not for the dollars and tenure.
If we miss out, so be it.
See above Scott. I think I've given a bit more context since the quoted post to explain it.I like that in theory but the reality is if we take that approach to all our top-end trade targets, we won't land many....if any. (Apologies for the Scribe lyric)
And how often do you go to the negotiation table with your best offer? If that's how Geelong are conducting business than I'm very concerned.
Riewoldt kicked 11 on him this year. We might as well play Hamling. Similar physique.Someone posted we are looking at A.corr from GWS maybe a backup plan,but who knows.
I'd push the money a little for chip.. Maybe to 550 for 5 but if freo are going really big.. 600 for 7 or so the let them.
We can't bury the ethos of out existence and success of the last 8 years for one player. Yes the landscape is changing and we must with it but not by blowing it up on one player
Go Catters
Yep agree Daz, I'd push it a little, but not drastically. Would add a year or keep it at 5 but increase the $ to equal Freo's amount per year.