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Now that this thread has been ruined by truthers, I vote it gets moved to the Conspiracy section.
If you believe in lizard people, good luck to you.OPEN YOUR EYES WAKE UP SHEEPLE ILLUMINATI LIZARDS OMG
If you believe in lizard people, good luck to you.
sadly for you guys, the biggest indicator for whether someone believes in a conspiracy theory, is that they subscribe to other conspiracy theories. it's a rare day indeed that a person has only one pet CT they're into, they like many (you're a perfect example of this CountryRace). sure, 911 might not be quite as stupid as icke's lizard people, but you can guarantee that people that believe in lizard people think 911 was an inside job.
i can easily predict the other beliefs someone has if they're a truther.
a) you should not personalize things. You should take comments on merit, instead of reading back into history and seeing whats what. if a person beleives in a theory you should attempt to debunk the specific statement rather than attacking the character.
b) i (as you have tagged me) don't believe in thousands of Ctheories at all. i just have an open mind.
c) historically, many CT, are proven to be true. Hence, more in the future may be true.
I used to argue the same thing as you are. That all changed 3 years ago when it was obvious the so called debunking of '911 was an inside job' turned out to be full of lies and defied the laws of physics.sadly for you guys, the biggest indicator for whether someone believes in a conspiracy theory, is that they subscribe to other conspiracy theories. it's a rare day indeed that a person has only one pet CT they're into, they like many (you're a perfect example of this CountryRace). sure, 911 might not be quite as stupid as icke's lizard people, but you can guarantee that people that believe in lizard people think 911 was an inside job.
i can easily predict the other beliefs someone has if they're a truther.
I used to argue the same thing as you are. That all changed 3 years ago when it was obvious the so called debunking of '911 was an inside job' turned out to be full of lies and defied the laws of physics.
Good luck to you though. I couldn't be bothered arguing over this again on another forum.
That is a nice picture of unfinished buildings. Nice try!im with you on that (arguing specifics on another forum). i gave that up years ago coz it was just so painful. that said, whenever a layman refers to "defied the laws of physics" i like to remind them what the towers looked like
That is a nice picture of unfinished buildings. Nice try!
but its news? if we live if a free country with liberty and democracy (stay with me here)
why is the report classified?
Not enough credit is being given to the OP.
Saudi Arabia may have more of a role that what we are led to believe?
The overall conclusion reached is that the United States most likely has been responsible since WWII for the deaths of between 20 and 30 million people in wars and conflicts scattered over the world. To the families and friends of these victims it makes little difference whether the causes were U.S. military action, proxy military forces, the provision of U.S. military supplies or advisors, or other ways, such as economic pressures applied by our nation. They had to make decisions about other things such as finding lost loved ones, whether to become refugees, and how to survive.
And the pain and anger is spread even further. Some authorities estimate that there are as many as 10 wounded for each person who dies in wars. Their visible, continued suffering is a continuing reminder to their fellow countrymen.
fat chance we hear about this. Bandar Bush and all, #sweptunderruggeryToday, three senators one ex-U.S.Senator (Bob Graham [FL]) and two current U.S. rep. (Walter Jones [NC] & Stephen Lynch [MA]) will request that Saudi Arabia's role in 9/11 be declassified.
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabi...ack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170
Saudi Arabia may have more of a role that what we are led to believe?
money was 100% saudiWeren't 15 of the 19 Saudi?
money was 100% saudi
I think I have read a paper or seen a doco on oil trade, and arms trade. inextricably linked. oil goes one way, sometimes they pay in contra, in arms (plus cash). or learjets, or other planes, or fighterplanes.How many billions in arms sales has America made to Saudi Arabia since?
i never said "thousands". but you quite clearly believe in many. i predicted quite easily your beliefs in 911 being an inside job, just from your beliefs in banking conspiracies.
no, historically many conspiracies have occurred. and they're not uncovered by shitty websites, youtube videos and non-experts regurgitating stupid shit they read on the internet. they're uncovered by real research and real researchers.
harry Mar -farking- CopoulosThere's just been two huge banking conspiracies uncovered. Some of these people like CR might be a bit populist and self taught on how power operates but the core of what they're saying is pretty spot on.
Secondly where are the real researchers these days? World journalism has never been in a darker place. Ownership has concentrated and investigative journalists have been laid off in their droves. Media for the most part has turned in to infotainment regurgitating PR firms spin and governments are actively enacting laws around the world to limit the freedom of the press. The more people digging the better in my view.
harry Mar -farking- Copoulos
harry markopoulos. prolly spelt differently, let googles algorithm be your autocorrect while it is doing the NSAs work
There's just been two huge banking conspiracies uncovered. Some of these people like CR might be a bit populist and self taught on how power operates but the core of what they're saying is pretty spot on.
Conspiracy theory as a theory of power, then, is an ideological misrecognition of power relations, articulated to but neither defining nor defined by populism, interpellating believers as “the people” opposed to a relatively secret, elite “power bloc.” Yet such a definition does not exhaust conspiracy theory’s significance in contemporary politics and culture; as with populism, the interpellation of “the people” opposed to the “power bloc” plays a crucial role in any movement for social change. Moreover, as I have argued, just because overarching conspiracy theories are wrong does not mean they are not on to something. Specifically, they ideologically address real structural inequities, and constitute a response to a withering civil society and the concentration of the ownership of the means of production, which together leave the political subject without the ability to be recognized or to signify in the public realm.
Secondly where are the real researchers these days? World journalism has never been in a darker place. Ownership has concentrated and investigative journalists have been laid off in their droves. Media for the most part has turned in to infotainment regurgitating PR firms spin and governments are actively enacting laws around the world to limit the freedom of the press. The more people digging the better in my view.