Collingwood player betting investigation (Update: Crisp gets fine, no suspension, see p.5)

[Aed0s]

There's no reason why he should be given match ban as he didn't even make the bet while he was at Collingwood...

If anything, he should be given a fine and a warning that if he ever does it again at Collingwood then he would be given a lengthy match ban. Why should Collingwood be punished for what he did at another club? Why didn't the Brisbane Lions do a better job in ascertaining whether their players were making illegal bets?

To give him a match ban when he didn't even make the illegal bet at this club just makes no sense to me.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

There's no reason why he should be given match ban as he didn't even make the bet while he was at Collingwood...

If anything, he should be given a fine and a warning that if he ever does it again at Collingwood then he would be given a lengthy match ban. Why should Collingwood be punished for what he did at another club? Why didn't the Brisbane Lions do a better job in ascertaining whether their players were making illegal bets?

To give him a match ban when he didn't even make the illegal bet at this club just makes no sense to me.

So Monfries Ryder etc should get off as they are now at other clubs?

I think it's just our bad luck & we have to suck up whatever penalty is handed out plus an extra week as other have said for bringing the human race into disrepute regarding stupidity.

 

[jimmy35]

So now can we tell the Bears about Beams ongoing thigh issues? Or is it too soon?

 

[Smoky]

Why is it only now that he is being investigated?

The bet happened early last season.

 

[Kirby]

It would be impossible to under estimate the intelligence of an AFL footballer.

 

[BEEG]

Reports at the time indicated Shaw had his mate place a $10 bet for him

8 Weeks

I find it very hard to believe that Shaw and Beams bet 5/10 dollar bets

Gerry Welsh from Sportingbet looks after them he only looks after the big spenders

 

[Baltimore Jack]

It would be impossible to under estimate the intelligence of an AFL footballer.

And even if a player was dumb enough to want to bet on AFL, how hard is it to cover ones tracks.
I mean a 8 year old could work out how to do it

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I assume incidents like this are handled by the club not the AFL?

Pretty simple, if he bet on a game he played in there should be a hefty penatly, especially if he bet to lose. Six to eight weeks.

If he didnt play the game or it was some multi then a reprimand should be enough.

If I were Collingwood I'd also be enquiring as to how this news broke and why this information wasnt available to us in trade week.

 

[THATSGOLD]

I find it very hard to believe that Shaw and Beams bet 5/10 dollar bets

Gerry Welsh from Sportingbet looks after them he only looks after the big spenders

Not that it matters but I'd be surprised given Beams and Shaw are earning 6 figure salaries. All I think of though is like I said earlier that they may have been testing the system to see if they could get away with it by starting off small.

 

[THATSGOLD]

I assume incidents like this are handled by the club not the AFL?

Pretty simple, if he bet on a game he played in there should be a hefty penatly, especially if he bet to lose. Six to eight weeks.

If he didnt play the game or it was some multi then a reprimand should be enough.

If I were Collingwood I'd also be enquiring as to how this news broke and why this information wasnt available to us in trade week.

Wait for Eddie to ask for compo if Crisp gets suspended off Brisbane or AFL. We will basically be paying for a bloke to sit on his arse.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Wait for Eddie to ask for compo if Crisp gets suspended off Brisbane or AFL. We will basically be paying for a bloke to sit on his arse.

Depends on what information on Beams we may have withheld from the Lions

 

[THATSGOLD]

Depends on what information on Beams we may have withheld from the Lions

I would question why the hell we took a bloke that's been betting on afl out of their whole list if we did know. Surely you wouldnt touch that.

 

[BEEG]

Not that it matters but I'd be surprised given Beams and Shaw are earning 6 figure salaries. All I think of though is like I said earlier that they may have been testing the system to see if they could get away with it by starting off small.

I know Sportingbet wouldn't throw them under the bus so I don't know how the AFL could even find out

 

[popin]

Why is it only now that he is being investigated?

The bet happened early last season.

I know Sportingbet wouldn't throw them under the bus so I don't know how the AFL could even find out

Maybe cos it's round one soon

 

[ottoman]

I know Sportingbet wouldn't throw them under the bus so I don't know how the AFL could even find out

This is what I find interesting. How does the AFL learn of these things. Especially when a friend places the bet for them.

 

[rose jam]

This is what I find interesting. How does the AFL learn of these things. Especially when a friend places the bet for them.

AFL players get dobbed in all the time, problem with so many clubs is that you have a lot of haters as an AFL player

 

[Smokeyr67]

If he did it while on Brisbane's list, then surely the fair course of action would be for D.Beams to serve as proxy for the suspension?

 

[76woodenspooners]

This is what I find interesting. How does the AFL learn of these things. Especially when a friend places the bet for them.

In the case of Shaw, he was busted on CCTV at the TAB with the friend who placed the obscure bet.

And Shaw learnt the hard way that it's a bad idea to lie to Eddie and the club.

 

[TradeDraft]

In the case of Shaw, he was busted on CCTV at the TAB with the friend who placed the obscure bet.

And Shaw learnt the hard way that it's a bad idea to lie to Eddie and the club.

Wasn’t the Lie about the Car Crash?

 

[76woodenspooners]

Wasn’t the Lie about the Car Crash?

Yes indeed it was.

That's my point, he wouldn't make that mistake again, would he?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Wasn’t the Lie about the Car Crash?

Yes the Lie was about the car crash. He didnt lie about the betting. Although Nick Maxwell probably did!!!!

 

[Mukesh]

Current Collingwood player formerly from Brisbane under investigation apparently....

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Who gives a rats.. ? If the AFL don't want this sort of thing to happen then they need to get out of bed with the gambling industry....

 

[TradeDraft]

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Who gives a rats.. ? If the AFL don't want this sort of thing to happen then they need to get out of bed with the gambling industry....

and Not have the Odds before every bloody game.

Double Standerds there

 

[Mukesh]

and Not have the Odds before every bloody game.

Double Standerds there

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Total, complete double standard....

 

[DrDavoren]

Why is it only now that he is being investigated?

The bet happened early last season.

Hasn't been a super 2 years or so for AFL and NRL with drugs, and betting.
Although the media do make mountains from mole hills.

Personally I don't see an issue placing a bet on your own team to win, obviously betting to lose introduces match fixing possibilities.

As for the drugs, this is where it needs to be reviewed, players getting rubbed out for energy drinks and pain killers while potentially systematic doping can go in punished seems ridiculous.