Traded Cooper Stephens - Traded to Hawthorn as part of Henry/Mitchell deal

[Ricketz]

I think its more likely we give up sav for henry and keep stephens but i wouldnt rule it out.

I have heard nowhere that he wants to be traded or unhappy. The coaches are clearly happy with his development, having the third highest votes per game. He hasn't been stagnating in the twos, he has basically only played one year in them, where he was elevated to the ones for 7 games.

This rhetoric that he is on the table is madness. Why would we trade out a needed player for shitty picks and a bloke that will end up with us anyway?

 

[Superstar swan]

Is there a big market for slow, lumbering poorly skilled mids?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

If you go into the draft with 2 open list spots

That is horrendous list management

Explain please

 

[BEEG]

Henry isn't worth giving up Stephens. No chance.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I have heard nowhere that he wants to be traded or unhappy. The coaches are clearly happy with his development, having the third highest votes per game. He hasn't been stagnating in the twos, he has basically only played one year in them, where he was elevated to the ones for 7 games.

This rhetoric that he is on the table is madness.

I doubt he is on the table but im sure clubs have enquired. The reality is unless it involved 6 (ie 7 and stephens for 6 and 27 or whatever they get for mitchell in that range) i wouldnt do it (6 would almost guarantee clark so that would be the only reason to do it). Hawks have stacks of cap space so no doubt will be chasing mids today but i reckon this one doesnt happen for 12 months

 

[Ricketz]

Is there a big market for slow, lumbering poorly skilled mids?

Sydney should be on to it, judging by their skill levels in the GF.

But Stephens isn't slow. Scroll back and check out his combine results. .06 seconds outside the top ten in the sprint and 6th all time yoyo.

 

[Ricketz]

I doubt he is on the table but im sure clubs have enquired. The reality is unless it involved 6 (ie 7 and stephens for 6 and 27 or whatever they get for mitchell in that range) i wouldnt do it (6 would almost guarantee clark so that would be the only reason to do it). Hawks have stacks of cap space so no doubt will be chasing mids today but i reckon this one doesnt happen for 12 months

Why would you even entertain it for a single pick upgrade? Would leave a hole in our 18-24 profile.

 

[Shadow89]

I doubt he is on the table but im sure clubs have enquired. The reality is unless it involved 6 (ie 7 and stephens for 6 and 27 or whatever they get for mitchell in that range) i wouldnt do it (6 would almost guarantee clark so that would be the only reason to do it). Hawks have stacks of cap space so no doubt will be chasing mids today but i reckon this one doesnt happen for 12 months

Yeah I could stomach a Future 3rd, if it meant we swapped spots with the Hawks from 6-7. Guarantees us Jhye Clark, and gives them a former Pick 16 (2019) inside mid, to replace some of their older players leaving, with a decent amount of upside, for not much at all.

If we're guaranteed Jhye, then I could see the rationale behind letting Coop leave - as they play the same position (but I'd much rather keep him).

 

[Superstar swan]

Sydney should be on to it, judging by their skill levels in the GF.

But Stephens isn't slow. Scroll back and check out his combine results. .06 seconds outside the top ten in the sprint and 6th all time yoyo.

Don't care about what he tested 4 years ago. I've seen him play.

Bloke couldn't catch a cold

 

[Ricketz]

Don't care about what he tested 4 years ago. I've seen him play.

Bloke couldn't catch a cold

You haven't seen him play. Don't talk s**t.

 

[Atavistic]

Hawks' F3 for Stephens and pick 7 should do it.

 

[kade]

Sure, you can develop him for a year for us. We will need him back the year after that though.

Hopefully your trade offer suits us

 

[Superstar swan]

You haven't seen him play. Don't talk s**t.

I have and it looks like he's in concrete boots

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Why would you even entertain it for a single pick upgrade? Would leave a hole in our 18-24 profile.

Id rather keep stephens.
But hawthorn and us likely want the same player (clark). So i wouldnt trade him unless we get the 1 pick upgrade to get clark if that makes sense.
Obviously you would want the 6/7 swap plus some sort of future pick also.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

If Geelong won't pony up for Henry there is no way Hawthorn will pony up that for Stephens.

All things being equal Henry is far more valuable, but he doesn’t have a contract and has turned his back on Collingwood.

Brings their values in a bit imo.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Geelong are renowned for player development and management. Everybody who goes there raves about the culture and the lifestyle (perhaps aside from Jordan Clark

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Jordan Clark

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

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K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

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3.4

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).

I do wonder, if Geelong are keen on drafting Jhye Clark after also acquiring Bowes and Bruhn, that they'd let somebody like Cooper Stephens go for a bit less than they'd like to give him a better chance of being an immediate best 22 player? Simple player welfare trade.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

3rd or 4th pick?

 

[supahoops]

Is there a big market for slow, lumbering poorly skilled mids?

Must be, saw a couple during 81

 

[Ricketz]

Id rather keep stephens.
But hawthorn and us likely want the same player (clark). So i wouldnt trade him unless we get the 1 pick upgrade to get clark if that makes sense.
Obviously you would want the 6/7 swap plus some sort of future pick also.

This Clark thing is a bit of a beat up too - I have not heard anyone at the club say we are set on him or bust. Just noise from the rumour mill. And why would we? We had no guarantee Bowes would pick us and land us the 7 until a couple of days ago.

There's no way we would throw our best midfield prospect under the bus and tell him he is up for trade, let alone a Geelong Falcon boy, just so we could get another Geelong Falcon boy and start from scratch again.

 

[hawkmang]

Sam Edmund saying on trade radio that Geelong fans should prepare to be disappointed in how cheap he goes

 

[Back One Out]

Geelong's "best midfield prospect"


Just 7 games in 3 years...

Two of those as sub - no playing time
The other five, he spent much of the game sitting on the bench

Get on him for the Brownlow in 2025

 

[HeHateMe]

Sam Edmund saying on trade radio that Geelong fans should prepare to be disappointed in how cheap he goes

He normally has pretty good Intel on the cats doesn't he?

 

[WatWouldCyrilDo]

Sam Edmund saying on trade radio that Geelong fans should prepare to be disappointed in how cheap he goes

Surely not.... I was told by the Geelong trade specialists that it's a 1st or 24 or GTFO!

 

[hawkmang]

He normally has pretty good Intel on the cats doesn't he?

I think a few of the trades today are already pencilled in and just waiting for the deadline to open up

 

[Superstar swan]

Must be, saw a couple during 81

Good to see cats being humble in victory