Media This place is beginning to jump the shark

[NaturalDisaster]

I know you’re all probably thinking “what is this grumpy old bastard going to have a cry about now?”.

Look, I know I tend to whinge a bit much about how different the league is from the good old days (and lets be honest, we had whingers back then too). I do genuinely try to see the good in the league and make excuses for all the negative aspects of it.

So the league has been a bit boring in recent seasons – It goes in cycles, it’ll be fine.
So we have just had the lowest rookie turn out in about 10 seasons, but we also had a low turnout in S27 and it turned out ok, it’ll be fine.
So a lot of teams seem to be struggling, again the league goes in cycles.

However, quite recently, I was informed of one change in the league that inspired me to go on this little rant.

Committee rep backups

Yep, that is right, apparently captaincy has gotten all too hard and now every single captain has a back up in the committee “just in case”.

There is now 26 people in the committee room.

Honestly, why?

The committee room as always supposed to be exclusive. One committee rep per club, the admin and obviously the site mods (who would only post if required).

Look, I get it, sometimes shit happens and someone is unable to fulfil their committee duties. I don’t think there has ever been an admin that would refuse to replace a committee member if required. I know I was always happy to help out in that regard. This rarely happened (and I am not counting my own current club who at one point, could not ****ing decide on committee reps, idiots).

But every club member needing a backup?

Not only that, but captains whinging about how difficult it is to do something as easy to post a teamsheet on time or any other of the most simple captaincy tasks required.

A bit under the pump? Post in the LG PM “Hey guys, I’m a bit busy atm, if I haven’t posted by 9pm can one of you quickly do it”? It’s not hard.

Honestly, the hardest part about being captain is

• Recruiting
• Keeping the team engaged

The rest is not all that hard. Even if you are busy, just delegate to the LG better or give someone else a shot.

Anyway, back to the committee back up issue.

One thing I know from my time in committee, captain, admin, mod is that, it is rarely actually active. The most active I have ever seen the committee was S28-S29, but that was more of an exception rather than a rule.

The committee is most active at the beginning of the season and during awards season. And even during awards season, the reps job is literally:

• List their rookies for EKA consideration – not hard
• Give the admin their beez voting nominations – not hard
• Select their All -SFA nominations for the season – a little harder, but not too bad if you have a good LG. It has even been made super easy with Hate 's excellent site, and before that was still pretty easy with Barrybran 's stats thread
• Discuss All-SFA team and give a proposed team – Usually the admin gives a proposed team and the committee work around that, there’s barely even discussion around it anymore.

It’s not a full time gig people, it’s not even a part time gig. All it requires for you is to check in now and then, update your LG, make a few posts when required, vote on things when required and maybe do half an hour work during the awards season.

So why was the idea of back up reps even entertained let alone implemented?

and why are captains whinging about the workload of being a captain, when a lot of the hard stuff is done for them?

Spoiler: Meta momment

Way too many people are starting to take this league more seriously than they should be. Even if you do miss a deadline, make a teamsheet **** up, it gives people drama, gives the league stuff to talk about. This stuff is the bread and butter of this league and always has been. Even if you do miss a game, get docked points over something dumb, who gives a shit? It's a game, a fake game.

 

[Greenery]

"Beginning to"

 

[DenieD]

 

[NaturalDisaster]

"Beginning to"

I was being kind

 

[Jabba73]

Still cleaning up the mess you made of the place, makes sense to get more people in to help.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Still cleaning up the mess you made of the place, makes sense to get more people in to help.

You have still never actually pointed out what mess.

btw, most of that mess was still there from the Ant Bear days thank you very much.

 

[Jabba73]

You have still never actually pointed out what mess.

btw, most of that mess was still there from the Ant Bear days thank you very much.

And you left it there … for someone else to clean up … then added to it.

 

[Bianconeri]

So we have just had the lowest rookie turn out in about 10 seasons

Less competition then, good

 

[Tarkyn_24]

I know you’re all probably thinking “what is this grumpy old bastard going to have a cry about now?”.

Look, I know I tend to whinge a bit much about how different the league is from the good old days (and lets be honest, we had whingers back then too). I do genuinely try to see the good in the league and make excuses for all the negative aspects of it.

So the league has been a bit boring in recent seasons – It goes in cycles, it’ll be fine.
So we have just had the lowest rookie turn out in about 10 seasons, but we also had a low turnout in S27 and it turned out ok, it’ll be fine.
So a lot of teams seem to be struggling, again the league goes in cycles.

However, quite recently, I was informed of one change in the league that inspired me to go on this little rant.

Committee rep backups

Yep, that is right, apparently captaincy has gotten all too hard and now every single captain has a back up in the committee “just in case”.

There is now 26 people in the committee room.

Honestly, why?

The committee room as always supposed to be exclusive. One committee rep per club, the admin and obviously the site mods (who would only post if required).

Look, I get it, sometimes s*t happens and someone is unable to fulfil their committee duties. I don’t think there has ever been an admin that would refuse to replace a committee member if required. I know I was always happy to help out in that regard. This rarely happened (and I am not counting my own current club who at one point, could not ****** decide on committee reps, idiots).

But every club member needing a backup?

Not only that, but captains whinging about how difficult it is to do something as easy to post a teamsheet on time or any other of the most simple captaincy tasks required.

A bit under the pump? Post in the LG PM “Hey guys, I’m a bit busy atm, if I haven’t posted by 9pm can one of you quickly do it”? It’s not hard.

Honestly, the hardest part about being captain is

• Recruiting
• Keeping the team engaged

The rest is not all that hard. Even if you are busy, just delegate to the LG better or give someone else a shot.

Anyway, back to the committee back up issue.

One thing I know from my time in committee, captain, admin, mod is that, it is rarely actually active. The most active I have ever seen the committee was S28-S29, but that was more of an exception rather than a rule.

The committee is most active at the beginning of the season and during awards season. And even during awards season, the reps job is literally:

• List their rookies for EKA consideration – not hard
• Give the admin their beez voting nominations – not hard
• Select their All -SFA nominations for the season – a little harder, but not too bad if you have a good LG. It has even been made super easy with Hate 's excellent site, and before that was still pretty easy with Barrybran 's stats thread
• Discuss All-SFA team and give a proposed team – Usually the admin gives a proposed team and the committee work around that, there’s barely even discussion around it anymore.

It’s not a full time gig people, it’s not even a part time gig. All it requires for you is to check in now and then, update your LG, make a few posts when required, vote on things when required and maybe do half an hour work during the awards season.

So why was the idea of back up reps even entertained let alone implemented?

and why are captains whinging about the workload of being a captain, when a lot of the hard stuff is done for them?

Spoiler: Meta momment

Way too many people are starting to take this league more seriously than they should be. Even if you do miss a deadline, make a teamsheet * up, it gives people drama, gives the league stuff to talk about. This stuff is the bread and butter of this league and always has been. Even if you do miss a game, get docked points over something dumb, who gives a s**t? It's a game, a fake game.

****’s sake. I agree with ND

 

[Headless]

26 people but no Headless.

Sad.

 

[Jabba73]

26 people but no Headless.

Sad.

The Committee is Headless, pretty sure

 

[krakouers]

No Fonzie?

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

 

[Cadsky]

Less competition then, good

You'll find the Royals other rookies to be the only "real" competition this season mate.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I agree.

 

[gab213]

I think the whole premise of this whinge is a little misleading, to be honest, there are not 26 people on the committee determining what happens with the SFA. There is one backup person per club who is able to view the committee threads, yes, but those people can't post in discussions and don't vote on anything.

In the event that something happens where a club representative suddenly disappears you have someone who is able to step up and actually knows what is going on and isn't suddenly thrown into the deep end with no clue of how anything works. I fail to see anything at all negative in this.
It would seem to me that this means that things could continue to run in a smooth manner if the backup was ever required to step in.

Sharing the load isn't a bad thing and I haven't heard complaints coming from any captains regarding their workload anyway, I'm aware that there are some newer captains who may need clear direction over what is required of them, but I thought that would be expected. We all want people to step up to take responsibility to ensure the future viability of the league but wait for the opportunity to be critical if they need more help or make a mistake. Making people's jobs easier isn't a bad thing.

If you want to grow the league then you have to allow it to evolve, how it was run 5 years ago isn't necessarily the best way for things to be run today.

You say that the number of rookies joining the league has fallen recently, obviously, there is a need to find new ways to encourage people to join the SFA.
If the way things have always been done isn't working in this regard then canvas ideas from some of the more recent additions to the league, they may come up with some ideas that you have never before considered.

You need to explore every avenue and if that means the way the league operates changes well so be it.

 

[sante]

Just fold the league. It’s the only way to fix this mess

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Just fold the league. It’s the only way to fix this mess

Will my goals tally still count in the new SFA?

 

[gab213]

Just fold the league. It’s the only way to fix this mess

Why do you need to fold it? Because some people may be jaded? There are plenty who are interested in seeing the league continue and who enjoy it.

 

[krakouers]

Will my goals tally still count in the new SFA?

no but since it’s new…. You can just double your tally when you submit the paperwork

 

[Tarkyn_24]

no but since it’s new…. You can just double your tally when you submit the paperwork

There’s paperwork?

Out

 

[BLUEALLTHRU]

I think the whole premise of this whinge is a little misleading, to be honest, there are not 26 people on the committee determining what happens with the SFA. There is one backup person per club who is able to view the committee threads, yes, but those people can't post in discussions and don't vote on anything.

In the event that something happens where a club representative suddenly disappears you have someone who is able to step up and actually knows what is going on and isn't suddenly thrown into the deep end with no clue of how anything works. I fail to see anything at all negative in this.
It would seem to me that this means that things could continue to run in a smooth manner if the backup was ever required to step in.

Sharing the load isn't a bad thing and I haven't heard complaints coming from any captains regarding their workload anyway, I'm aware that there are some newer captains who may need clear direction over what is required of them, but I thought that would be expected. We all want people to step up to take responsibility to ensure the future viability of the league but wait for the opportunity to be critical if they need more help or make a mistake. Making people's jobs easier isn't a bad thing.

If you want to grow the league then you have to allow it to evolve, how it was run 5 years ago isn't necessarily the best way for things to be run today.

You say that the number of rookies joining the league has fallen recently, obviously, there is a need to find new ways to encourage people to join the SFA.
If the way things have always been done isn't working in this regard then canvas ideas from some of the more recent additions to the league, they may come up with some ideas that you have never before considered.

You need to explore every avenue and if that means the way the league operates changes well so be it.

Brilliant reply stop making sense.

 

[kananooks]

Why do you need to fold it? Because some people may be jaded? There are plenty who are interested in seeing the league continue and who enjoy it.

i say make the miserable campaigners step aside and let some fresh people have a crack.

if youre not enjoying it here. the door isnt locked. help yourselves.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Why do you need to fold it? Because some people may be jaded? There are plenty who are interested in seeing the league continue and who enjoy it.

Psychos

 

[Headless]

Why do you need to fold it? Because some people may be jaded? There are plenty who are interested in seeing the league continue and who enjoy it.

Name three.