Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[D BRIDGE]

Is caddy actually a KPF?? Or is he more a jake stringer/degoey type at AFL??

More a young Curnow type... Def forward over mid... But flexible.

 

[foxdog50]

Rowey Reports Port Champ Is On Cats Radar

Port Adelaide star Ollie Wines is on the radar of Geelong coach Chris Scott, says Stephen Rowe. Rowey told the FIVEAA sports show the tip-off came from a Port Adelaide “person of note”: “This chap and me aren’t saying he’s going,” Rowey told Timmy G. “[Wines] is signed until 2026. But you think...

www.fiveaa.com.au

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Rowey finally got around to reading the Port board from a fortnight ago

It's hilarious isn't it.

Either they themselves, or their so called 'sources' just check BigFooty for the latest rumblings. Extra points if it's in the format of a text message.

If it's somehow true, I'd take Wines if it's salary only. Could still play a role and was clearly playing half-fit this year.

If we're giving up anything of value though...no chance.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Rowey Reports Port Champ Is On Cats Radar

Port Adelaide star Ollie Wines is on the radar of Geelong coach Chris Scott, says Stephen Rowe. Rowey told the FIVEAA sports show the tip-off came from a Port Adelaide “person of note”: “This chap and me aren’t saying he’s going,” Rowey told Timmy G. “[Wines] is signed until 2026. But you think...

www.fiveaa.com.au

Wines wont agree to go anywhere so its irrelevant and rowey knows it.

 

[FootyLad0]

Yeah I'm torn...
part of me think Lord is still a fringe player... played 15 games ( 13 home and away games, average of 1.2 goals a game ) but does have huge potential...
But than again he is contracted...
I'm not sure.. I keep swapping in thoughts

He showed more than enough against Lions in QF. 4 goals with Payne/Andrews hanging off of him.
Kid can play, he just needs a shot,

 

[CatRiot]

According to the North board we asked about Thomas (as did other clubs) but he has no interest in Geelong at all

Good.

He showed more than enough against Lions in QF. 4 goals with Payne/Andrews hanging off of him.
Kid can play, he just needs a shot,

He looks flashy, but long term he is a bust imho. Can't mark overhead as a natural, and his speed and skills are not quite at that level to compensate for it. Overall a decent player, but won't be a superstar imho. Is he an upgrade on Sav as a Key Defender vs Lord as a Key Forward, and I'm going to say definitely no. If he is stake knives in a deal with a pick, sure why not, but in a straight swap it's a definite no. Sav statistically was pretty good as a Key Defender, not the best, but certainly up there.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Good.

He looks flashy, but long term he is a bust imho. Can't mark overhead as a natural, and his speed and skills are not quite at that level to compensate for it. Overall a decent player, but won't be a superstar imho. Is he an upgrade on Sav as a Key Defender vs Lord as a Key Forward, and I'm going to say definitely no. If he is stake knives in a deal with a pick, sure why not, but in a straight swap it's a definite no. Sav statistically was pretty good as a Key Defender, not the best, but certainly up there.

You have to remember it's a deal for Esava Ratugolea...we're not exactly talking peak Chris Judd here.

Lord's a talented young player with some flaws in his game that can hopefully be ironed out over time.

That's about what you'd expect in a deal for a player of Esava's quality.

Many on here who have bagged Sav regularly now seem to be in fantasy land on what we can realistically get for him.

Let's not go down that path, it's the type of behaviour we love to bag opposition supporters for. We shouldn't stoop to their level.

 

[CatRiot]

It was a better world when we had cars like this, and when football had Ablett Senior around the same time!

Turbos and pop up lights. What an era!

 

[CatRiot]

Dang I drank all the booze for today's game, and haven't slept. Anyone would've thought the Cats were in the GF.

Nah, just a Hardcore Cat here instead. Lol

Alright Ben Cousins. That's enough partying.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Wines wont agree to go anywhere so its irrelevant and rowey knows it.

I think the chat is a smokescreen. Set Port fans expectations at Ollie Wines and the actual trade will be easier to socialise with the fan base and less likely to get someone fired out of a cannon Ned Guy style

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

Lord showed some glimpses of talent in the finals and I’d be keen to have him on our list. But he’s at a similar stage to Neale and plays the same role.
If Lord came in they’re both competing for the same spot next season. They’d both already struggle for games with a fully fit team. Hawkins, Cameron, Rohan and Henry will be ahead of them and they’ll need to find games amongst that group, plus some ruck etc.

I can’t see how they’re selling that role to Lord at the moment, except to say to him spots will an open up but they will at port as well.
Esava for Lord would be very risky from our perspective anyway I’d want something else added. Barring injury Esava will play every week for Port and play a good role. He’ll still make some mistakes as he’s learning that role but he’s a lot less of a risk than Lord.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Lord showed some glimpses of talent in the finals and I’d be keen to have him on our list. But he’s at a similar stage to Neale and plays the same role.
If Lord came in they’re both competing for the same spot next season. They’d both already struggle for games with a fully fit team. Hawkins, Cameron, Rohan and Henry will be ahead of them and they’ll need to find games amongst that group, plus some ruck etc.

I can’t see how they’re selling that role to Lord at the moment, except to say to him spots will an open up but they will at port as well.
Esava for Lord would be very risky from our perspective anyway I’d want something else added. Barring injury Esava will play every week for Port and play a good role. He’ll still make some mistakes as he’s learning that role but he’s a lot less of a risk than Lord.

I think it's a slightly easier sell than for him to stay at Port. I don't see him pushing past Finlayson or Marshall when fit. They just locked in Georgiades for 4 years. Dixon could retire tomorrow and he'd be years away from first choice.

For us Hawkins has one more year and he'd probably be close to level pegging with the competition for that spot

 

[Matthew Jelley]

I'd trade holmes for two first rounders around the 7-10 mark. Use them and possibly another lesser pick to bring in a KPF like Oscar Allen.

Or maybe is this unrealistic ?

Holmes going at all is unrealistic

 

[Two Planks]

Does anybod know if Ollie Lord has ever lived in Geelong or is he born and bred in Melbourne

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Does anybod know if Ollie Lord has ever lived in Geelong or is he born and bred in Melbourne

He went to Geelong Grammar.

 

[Reg Hickey]

He went to Geelong Grammar.

His grandfather is also a legend of the club and won a flag and a Brownlow in the hoops. Geelong royalty.

 

[Reg Hickey]

Good.

He looks flashy, but long term he is a bust imho. Can't mark overhead as a natural, and his speed and skills are not quite at that level to compensate for it. Overall a decent player, but won't be a superstar imho. Is he an upgrade on Sav as a Key Defender vs Lord as a Key Forward, and I'm going to say definitely no. If he is stake knives in a deal with a pick, sure why not, but in a straight swap it's a definite no. Sav statistically was pretty good as a Key Defender, not the best, but certainly up there.

FFS the kid is 21yo and has played 13 games. If we wrote off every KPF who hadn't dominated by that stage of their careers, there might only be 3-4 KPFs left in the whole comp.

He has size, he has athleticism, and his work against the Lions in the QF shows he can impact in big games. There's a hell of a lot to like.

 

[Warhorse]

FFS the kid is 21yo and has played 13 games. If we wrote off every KPF who hadn't dominated by that stage of their careers, there might only be 3-4 KPFs left in the whole comp.

He has size, he has athleticism, and his work against the Lions in the QF shows he can impact in big games. There's a hell of a lot to like.

Was very close to delisted last contract. He won't be any better than what is already on our list.

He is going between 0.5 and 1 goal a game in his first 3 years at SAFL. A late pick in the draft and is playing like one and has not improved in his time on the list outside of 1 final game (which was followed by a 5 disposal game the next week).

He won't make it unless he learns to play defence

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

His grandfather is also a legend of the club and won a flag and a Brownlow in the hoops. Geelong royalty.

His father was drafted to Geelong as a F/S in 91 too.

 

[fpm84]

Bevo strikes me as old-school, and wouldn't want a bar of any of that stuff. It's no surprise that they're not getting along as you say.

Bevo, to me, seems mentally unstable and not fit to be a senior coach.

The club being unable to manage personalities like Stringer and Hunter, and then Dunkley leaving for reasons that had nothing to with money or homesickness, are enormous red flags.

Plus the rumours about the enormous level of power Bevo has around assistants, staff etc.

If the Dogs board had any sense they’d get rid of him before the club fractures any further. If he hadn’t won a flag early in his time there he would have been lucky to last five years IMO.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

I think it's a slightly easier sell than for him to stay at Port. I don't see him pushing past Finlayson or Marshall when fit. They just locked in Georgiades for 4 years. Dixon could retire tomorrow and he'd be years away from first choice.

For us Hawkins has one more year and he'd probably be close to level pegging with the competition for that spot

I think he’d be better off staying at Port for another season then looking around. Is he out of contract? Different story if he is I guess.
I’d be disappointed if he is traded without something bigger coming our way. He seems a very speculative player who’s played a couple of good games. Not saying he will or won’t make it just if want some more in return. The jury is still out on Neale but at least we’ve seen more from him at vfl level it’s just a wait to see if he can translate that to afl standard.

I can see the reasons why we’d be interested though, we’ve got a good group of young players but we’d like some more talls in that group.

A bit off topic but it’s going to be a big watch on Conway pre season going into next season. If he can stay fit and play a few games next season he could soon make a big impact on the team.
It’s a long time since we’ve had a dominant ruck. Listening to Mackie it doesn’t sound like we will be adding another ruck which I do find concerning. But I am excited to hopefully see Conway play next year and I’d be hoping Neale plays games alongside him up forward and in the ruck to develop them both.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Bevo, to me, seems mentally unstable and not fit to be a senior coach.

The club being unable to manage personalities like Stringer and Hunter, and then Dunkley leaving for reasons that had nothing to with money or homesickness, are enormous red flags.

Plus the rumours about the enormous level of power Bevo has around assistants, staff etc.

If the Dogs board had any sense they’d get rid of him before the club fractures any further. If he hadn’t won a flag early in his time there he would have been lucky to last five years IMO.

It's the downside of being a perennial loser football club.

Whoever eventually does get them success is the second coming of christ and ends up with too much power, and nobody has the guts to tell them their time is up.

Just look at the Saints. They're doing everything they can to make it 2009 again. Lyon, Hayes, Goddard...even changing their jumper back, and they didn't even win a flag!!

 

[moond0g]

FFS the kid is 21yo and has played 13 games. If we wrote off every KPF who hadn't dominated by that stage of their careers, there might only be 3-4 KPFs left in the whole comp.

He has size, he has athleticism, and his work against the Lions in the QF shows he can impact in big games. There's a hell of a lot to like.

That’s totally fair. But there are also a bunch of 21yo late draft picks with his stats that are delisted within 2 years.

People are justified in questioning whether he is a viable long term forward for us.

 

[terry_bright]

His father was drafted to Geelong as a F/S in 91 too.

If you’re thinking of Aaron Lord, he’s no relation to Alistair & Stewart Lord.

 

[moond0g]

You have to remember it's a deal for Esava Ratugolea...we're not exactly talking peak Chris Judd here.

Lord's a talented young player with some flaws in his game that can hopefully be ironed out over time.

That's about what you'd expect in a deal for a player of Esava's quality.

Many on here who have bagged Sav regularly now seem to be in fantasy land on what we can realistically get for him.

Let's not go down that path, it's the type of behaviour we love to bag opposition supporters for. We shouldn't stoop to their level.

I’ll be honest, Lord doesn’t fill me with a heap of confidence. But neither does a kid picked in the 30s which, like you say, is probably the alternative.