New numbers for 2015?

[maxrm]

Pace and aggression is all well and good but he's small, can't kick and lacks on-field discipline.
I highly doubt he'll ever be able to push into the midfield. The only way I can see him transitioning into an AFL standard player is if he becomes a shutdown specialist, whether that be on FP's or rebounding defenders, who applies terrific pressure, tackles hard and when given an opportunity can hurt the opposition with his speed. Sadly, I don't think he had the discipline to be this player. If we take him with our second I will not be happy, third I could live with. A replacement for Carter accept without the smarts and with pace and aggression.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Old ground.

He ran a 3.03 20m sprint at the combine. Which is poor by any measure given his height. He's not slow broadly speaking but he isn't explosive and isn't breaking lines of congestion in close where it matters.

And no matter how tough he is, at 177cm and on the light side in terms of frame size he's never going to physically impose himself on games. Smith also has unnecessarily high skin folds and will need to drop kilos before he adds functional mass. He's a long way behind the eight ball physically.

And where does he play? Midfield? would take something special in terms of endurance, though his hands are probably good enough and he has enough agility. Forward? Probably the most logical place to play him but he lacks the endurance required and has no form in the position at a meaningful level. Defender? Gives away a mountain of height, defensive game is poor and is a clanger kick.

 

[DarlinCatchemnt]

Old ground.

He ran a 3.03 20m sprint at the combine. Which is poor by any measure given his height. He's not slow broadly speaking but he isn't explosive and isn't breaking lines of congestion in close where it matters.

And no matter how tough he is, at 177cm and on the light side in terms of frame size he's never going to physically impose himself on games. Smith also has unnecessarily high skin folds and will need to drop kilos before he adds functional mass. He's a long way behind the eight ball physically.

And where does he play? Midfield? would take something special in terms of endurance, though his hands are probably good enough and he has enough agility. Forward? Probably the most logical place to play him but he lacks the endurance required and has no form in the position at a meaningful level. Defender? Gives away a mountain of height, defensive game is poor and is a clanger kick.

Very nice argument. I'd be surprised if we passed on him at #32, but who knows. I still here ringing in head how impressed we were with him when he trained with the club. Cal Twomey has always said he's the sort of guy to test poorly but get it done in game day, and I think that's a fair assessment. Certainly he looks quicker than that 3sec+ sprint time suggests.

 

[dajesmac]

#14: Jeremy McGovern
#19: Nakia Cockatoo
#20: Alec Waterman
#23: Mark Hutchings
#28: Pick 32
#30: Pick 51
#34: Pick 69
#42: Corey Adamson
#45: Paddy Brophy
#46: Brenden Abbott (R1)

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I would like to see Newman shed 38 and take on a new number. This would signify that he is starting again at his career and ditching the past.

 

[Natho]

I don't really want coxy's number thrown around!

 

[dajesmac]

I reckon Mags should keep the 41. It's a great number IMO.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Bump

14: Duggan
19: Nelson (his Vic Country number)
20: Waterman
23: McGovern
28: Cavka
30: Lamb (his Stingrays number)
42: rookie
45: Adamson
46: Brophy

 

[Dark Sharks]

Bump

14: Duggan
19: Nelson (his Vic Country number)
20: Waterman
23: McGovern
28: Cavka
30: Lamb (his Stingrays number)
42: rookie
45: Adamson
46: Brophy

OR give Brophy Sheppards number 5, and give Sheppard 46? Win win for everyone

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

OR give Brophy Sheppards number 5, and give Sheppard 46? Win win for everyone

Think I must've missed something

 

[Dark Sharks]

Think I must've missed something

The joke it seems. I was implying Sheppard should be demoted for an untested and unproven international rookie.

Do you even sarcasm?

 

[Goldfish]

Bump

14: Duggan
19: Nelson (his Vic Country number)
20: Waterman
23: McGovern
28: Cavka
30: Lamb (his Stingrays number)
42: rookie
45: Adamson
46: Brophy

I like it, but would see if Karpany wants 20, 28 or another available number so Waterman can get the 39.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

The joke it seems. I was implying Sheppard should be demoted for an untested and unproven international rookie.

Do you even sarcasm?

Ah. If you'd suggested giving Brophy the number 11 I may have cottoned on. Didn't realise you weren't a Sheppard fan

 

[Bacon Warrior]

Pretty sure I saw on LeCras' Instagram that McGovern is already trying to move his s**t in to the #20 locker.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I like it, but would see if Karpany wants 20, 28 or another available number so Waterman can get the 39.

Believe he was offered it at Claremont but he wanted to own his own number. Also has 2 younger brothers behind him and 1 looks like he is possibly higher talent. Suggest too much crap at family functions if he was to take his old man's number.

 

[Prem87]

Believe he was offered it at Claremont but he wanted to own his own number. Also has 2 younger brothers behind him and 1 looks like he is possibly higher talent. Suggest too much crap at family functions if he was to take his old man's number.

Which brother looks the better talent?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Jake - he played in the U16 National Carnival. Taller that Alec (182 v 186) and still growing. He played 1 game for Claremont Colts in June - not that memorable but he is still U16. Jake on left in picture.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Ah. If you'd suggested giving Brophy the number 11 I may have cottoned on. Didn't realise you weren't a Sheppard fan

I'm not anti Sheppard, just more of a realist when it comes to what he's done for us in his career.

This was his first passable season since we drafted him, and that is taken into account everyone's lowered expectations of him.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Jake - he played in the U16 National Carnival. Taller that Alec (182 v 186) and still growing. He played 1 game for Claremont Colts in June - not that memorable but he is still U16. Jake on left in picture.

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Measured in at 188cm and 80 kilos at state testing.

Which brother looks the better talent?

At the same age (U16's) Jake has Alec's measure. However Alec was one of the premier underage talents in 2013 (Jake's 2015 season), in part helped by his size (short and strong). It's unreasonable to expect the same from Jake given his body shape. It's Alec's lack of physical upside that hurt his ranking. Where as Jake hopefully has long term physical upside above and beyond Alec.

In terms of marking, running game Jake is superior to Alec. In terms of midfield game, Jake has a lot to do to match his older brother and at the moment they're very different players. Jake hasn't locked down where he'll wind up playing, can play anywhere at U15/16's level but that won't last.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Bump

14: Duggan
19: Nelson (his Vic Country number)
20: Waterman
23: McGovern
28: Cavka
30: Lamb (his Stingrays number)
42: rookie
45: Adamson
46: Brophy

Pretty sure there was an instagram post about McGovern sneaking in on Coxy's 20 as he was cleaning it out.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Pretty sure there was an instagram post about McGovern sneaking in on Coxy's 20 as he was cleaning it out.

Yeah a few people have said that but I haven't been able to find it.

Might help if I had Instagram I suppose

 

[Longwthebreeze]

14: Duggan
19: Nelson (his Vic Country number)
20: Waterman
23: McGovern
28: Cavka
30: Lamb (his Stingrays number)
42: rookie
45: Adamson
46: Brophy

Bang on Fivey!!!

 

[Longwthebreeze]

Its official.
Turbo McGovern inherits #20. The club’s first draft selection Liam Duggan (14), Damien Cavka (19), Tom Lamb (28) and Jackson Nelson (30) will begin their careers in those numbers respectively.
Midfielder Alec Waterman will don the #42 vacated by McGovern, while former baseballer Corey Adamson (45), the club’s first Irish rookie Paddy Brophy (#46) and Carlton recruit Kane Lucas (#47) will look to carry those numbers into action.

 

[Longwthebreeze]

Waterman lucked out. Highest draft picks must choose first?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Glass' 23 retired but not Cox's jumper?