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He's got a big drinking problem; could embarrass the program. Meet me up in that tree later and I'll tell you more.
Just for Tomnat Tigers I've done a top 70. Go easy on me please (yeah I know you're all campaigners). 
I did it based on picking for RFC. There were a couple I found hard to split and tended to go the Vic option when there was a struggle.
Broke it into sections where I think there is a bit of a drop off in talent.
1-6: Guys we likely have no shot at
1. Christian Petracca
2. Isaac Heeney (top 2 could go either way but seems we ain't getting them who cares)
3. Angus Brayshaw
4. Darcy Moore
5. Peter Wright
6. Patrick McCartin
7-15: guys I'd use pick 12 on.
7. Lachie Weller
8. Paul Ahern
9. Jarrod Pickett (found him and Ahern tough to split so gone the home town boy higher.)
10. Jayden Laverde
11. Jordan De Goey
12. Jake Lever
13. Liam Duggan
14. Corey Ellis (I still struggle to separate him and Duggan)
15. Reece McKenzie
16-27: Guys that likely fall between our picks but hopefully get to 33.
16. Connor Blakely
17. Jarrod Garlett
18. Connor Menadue
19. Jack Steele
20. Sam Durdin
21. Nakia Cockatoo
22. Dean Gore (love this kid and shocked there is talk he could go 3rd round, especially to us)
23. Kyle Langford (Found him the hardest to place)
24. Caleb Marchbank
25. Touk Miller (does he become a mid at AFL level or just a forward? If he becomes a mid then I think he could be in the top 15)
26. Hugh Goddard
27. Daniel McKenzie
28-38: 2nd/3rd round prospects
28. Harrison Wigg
29. Brayden Maynard
30. Jaden McGrath (probably too high but he has a heap of talent)
31. Damian Cavka
32. Alex Neal-Bullen
33. Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
34. Liam Dawson
35. Peter Bampton (seems like the slider. If we can grab some speed with first couple I'd take him.)
36. Corey Gregson
37. Tom Lamb (the other with Langford I found hard to place. Not convinced he will reach his ceiling which is quite high)
38. Blaine Boekhorst (didn't realise he was only 21 and had to squeeze him into this group. Very talented)
39-53: other options for pick 52
39. Jack Lonie
40. Jackson Nelson
41. Toby McLean
42. Billy Stretch
43. Clem Smith
44. Declan Hamilton
45. Lukas Webb
46. Billy Evans
47. Aidan Anderson
48. Ed Vickers-Willis (not as high on this bloke as others it seems. I must be missing something)
49. Ed Langdon
50. Keenan Ramsay
51. Daniel Nielsen
52. Nathan Drummond
53. Daniel Capiron
54-70: guys I'd take at pick 70 or rookie.
54. Nic Newman
55. Bailey Dale
56. Matthew Panos
57. Jayden Short
58. Daniel Howe
59. Bradley Walsh (really like this kid, despite his lack of athleticism)
60. Josh Glenn
61. Mac Bower (under-performed this year but he's tall and athletic with good skills, nice project to see if he can put it together)
62. James Rose
63. Daniel Butler
64. Oleg Markov
65. Dougal Howard
66. Caleb Daniel
67. Jermaine Miller-Lewis
68. Shannon Taylor
69. Matthew Goodyear
70. Nick Mellington
I did it based on picking for RFC. There were a couple I found hard to split and tended to go the Vic option when there was a struggle.
Broke it into sections where I think there is a bit of a drop off in talent.
1-6: Guys we likely have no shot at
1. Christian Petracca
2. Isaac Heeney (top 2 could go either way but seems we ain't getting them who cares
)3. Angus Brayshaw
4. Darcy Moore
5. Peter Wright
6. Patrick McCartin
7-15: guys I'd use pick 12 on.
7. Lachie Weller
8. Paul Ahern
9. Jarrod Pickett (found him and Ahern tough to split so gone the home town boy higher.)
10. Jayden Laverde
11. Jordan De Goey
12. Jake Lever
13. Liam Duggan
14. Corey Ellis (I still struggle to separate him and Duggan)
15. Reece McKenzie
16-27: Guys that likely fall between our picks but hopefully get to 33.
16. Connor Blakely
17. Jarrod Garlett
18. Connor Menadue
19. Jack Steele
20. Sam Durdin
21. Nakia Cockatoo
22. Dean Gore (love this kid and shocked there is talk he could go 3rd round, especially to us)
23. Kyle Langford (Found him the hardest to place)
24. Caleb Marchbank
25. Touk Miller (does he become a mid at AFL level or just a forward? If he becomes a mid then I think he could be in the top 15)
26. Hugh Goddard
27. Daniel McKenzie
28-38: 2nd/3rd round prospects
28. Harrison Wigg
29. Brayden Maynard
30. Jaden McGrath (probably too high but he has a heap of talent)
31. Damian Cavka
32. Alex Neal-Bullen
33. Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
34. Liam Dawson
35. Peter Bampton (seems like the slider. If we can grab some speed with first couple I'd take him.)
36. Corey Gregson
37. Tom Lamb (the other with Langford I found hard to place. Not convinced he will reach his ceiling which is quite high)
38. Blaine Boekhorst (didn't realise he was only 21 and had to squeeze him into this group. Very talented)
39-53: other options for pick 52
39. Jack Lonie
40. Jackson Nelson
41. Toby McLean
42. Billy Stretch
43. Clem Smith
44. Declan Hamilton
45. Lukas Webb
46. Billy Evans
47. Aidan Anderson
48. Ed Vickers-Willis (not as high on this bloke as others it seems. I must be missing something)
49. Ed Langdon
50. Keenan Ramsay
51. Daniel Nielsen
52. Nathan Drummond
53. Daniel Capiron
54-70: guys I'd take at pick 70 or rookie.
54. Nic Newman
55. Bailey Dale
56. Matthew Panos
57. Jayden Short
58. Daniel Howe
59. Bradley Walsh (really like this kid, despite his lack of athleticism)
60. Josh Glenn
61. Mac Bower (under-performed this year but he's tall and athletic with good skills, nice project to see if he can put it together)
62. James Rose
63. Daniel Butler
64. Oleg Markov
65. Dougal Howard
66. Caleb Daniel
67. Jermaine Miller-Lewis
68. Shannon Taylor
69. Matthew Goodyear
70. Nick Mellington
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Just for Tomnat Tigers I've done a top 70. Go easy on me please (yeah I know you're all campaigners).
I did it based on picking for RFC. There were a couple I found hard to split and tended to go the Vic option when there was a struggle.
Broke it into sections where I think there is a bit of a drop off in talent.
1-6: Guys we likely have no shot at
1. Christian Petracca
2. Isaac Heeney (top 2 could go either way but seems we ain't getting them who cares
3. Angus Brayshaw
4. Darcy Moore
5. Peter Wright
6. Patrick McCartin
7-15: guys I'd use pick 12 on.
7. Lachie Weller
8. Paul Ahern
9. Jarrod Pickett (found him and Ahern tough to split so gone the home town boy higher.)
10. Jayden Laverde
11. Jordan De Goey
12. Jake Lever
13. Liam Duggan
14. Corey Ellis (I still struggle to separate him and Duggan)
15. Reece McKenzie
16-27: Guys that likely fall between our picks but hopefully get to 33.
16. Connor Blakely
17. Jarrod Garlett
18. Connor Menadue
19. Jack Steele
20. Sam Durdin
21. Nakia Cockatoo
22. Dean Gore (love this kid and shocked there is talk he could go 3rd round, especially to us)
23. Kyle Langford (Found him the hardest to place)
24. Caleb Marchbank
25. Touk Miller (does he become a mid at AFL level or just a forward? If he becomes a mid then I think he could be in the top 15)
26. Hugh Goddard
27. Daniel McKenzie
28-38: 2nd/3rd round prospects
28. Harrison Wigg
29. Brayden Maynard
30. Jaden McGrath (probably too high but he has a heap of talent)
31. Damian Cavka
32. Alex Neal-Bullen
33. Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
34. Liam Dawson
35. Peter Bampton (seems like the slider. If we can grab some speed with first couple I'd take him.)
36. Corey Gregson
37. Tom Lamb (the other with Langford I found hard to place. Not convinced he will reach his ceiling which is quite high)
38. Blaine Boekhorst (didn't realise he was only 21 and had to squeeze him into this group. Very talented)
39-53: other options for pick 52
39. Jack Lonie
40. Jackson Nelson
41. Toby McLean
42. Billy Stretch
43. Clem Smith
44. Declan Hamilton
45. Lukas Webb
46. Billy Evans
47. Aidan Anderson
48. Ed Vickers-Willis (not as high on this bloke as others it seems. I must be missing something)
49. Ed Langdon
50. Keenan Ramsay
51. Daniel Nielsen
52. Nathan Drummond
53. Daniel Capiron
54-70: guys I'd take at pick 70 or rookie.
54. Nic Newman
55. Bailey Dale
56. Matthew Panos
57. Jayden Short
58. Daniel Howe
59. Bradley Walsh (really like this kid, despite his lack of athleticism)
60. Josh Glenn
61. Mac Bower (under-performed this year but he's tall and athletic with good skills, nice project to see if he can put it together)
62. James Rose
63. Daniel Butler
64. Oleg Markov
65. Dougal Howard
66. Caleb Daniel
67. Jermaine Miller-Lewis
68. Shannon Taylor
69. Matthew Goodyear
70. Nick Mellington
Ahhhh Panos...touted a first rounder by most on BF....went 3rd round of the rookie draft!
Did better than Waylen.
I reckon he might go rookie draft again this year. Maybe tad earlier than the 3rd round.
Rodney Dangerfield
Doesn’t matter
What does anyone know about Pat McKenna?
I played cricket at the sane club and he is outstanding. Was skipper of Australian under 17's and then went to Carlton last year with the world at his feet.
I find out today he's a good footballer also. Had no idea.
As many as ten clubs have been in contact including us on more than one occasion?
I wondered why he hadn't been playing cricket at Carlton.
Apoarently he put it all aside for footy.
I played cricket at the sane club and he is outstanding. Was skipper of Australian under 17's and then went to Carlton last year with the world at his feet.
I find out today he's a good footballer also. Had no idea.
As many as ten clubs have been in contact including us on more than one occasion?
I wondered why he hadn't been playing cricket at Carlton.
Apoarently he put it all aside for footy.
Toadvine
17?19?
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Why we should draft Ellis:
Ellis' ball use and decision-making sets him apart. He's in the top echelon for both categories, and he makes use of it in games.
His versatility is also a strength. He can be used off half-back, on a wing, in a midfield role and even closer to goal, where his left-foot disposal is damaging. But wherever he plays, he knows what to do.
Ellis has the knack of reading the play, finding the ball and making quick and correct decisions when it's in his hands. He can't really explain where it comes from, just that he's good at thinking clearly under pressure.
Behind Ellis' quiet personality is also a steely determination to succeed. He knows what he wants, has worked hard to this point to get there, and has the mature head to settle into an AFL club.
Query:
He is perhaps one-paced, but that's not a huge concern. Ellis' foot injury is not ideal, particularly given the proper diagnosis wasn't found until later on, but hopefully it doesn't linger.
Hopefully he will be a Tiger because:
There's a bit of Dom Tyson to Ellis. He isn't especially fast, but gets around that by being very quick of mind and at getting the ball in his hands.
Ellis is a first-round pick in the eyes of most club recruiters, but will most likely fall between picks No.12 and 20
Ellis is unassuming, but he's courageous at the stoppages, smart when he has the ball and a very damaging kick. He brings players into the game and does everything without looking troubled.
all taken from the AFL website.....
Ellis' ball use and decision-making sets him apart. He's in the top echelon for both categories, and he makes use of it in games.
His versatility is also a strength. He can be used off half-back, on a wing, in a midfield role and even closer to goal, where his left-foot disposal is damaging. But wherever he plays, he knows what to do.
Ellis has the knack of reading the play, finding the ball and making quick and correct decisions when it's in his hands. He can't really explain where it comes from, just that he's good at thinking clearly under pressure.
Behind Ellis' quiet personality is also a steely determination to succeed. He knows what he wants, has worked hard to this point to get there, and has the mature head to settle into an AFL club.
Query:
He is perhaps one-paced, but that's not a huge concern. Ellis' foot injury is not ideal, particularly given the proper diagnosis wasn't found until later on, but hopefully it doesn't linger.
Hopefully he will be a Tiger because:
There's a bit of Dom Tyson to Ellis. He isn't especially fast, but gets around that by being very quick of mind and at getting the ball in his hands.
Ellis is a first-round pick in the eyes of most club recruiters, but will most likely fall between picks No.12 and 20
Ellis is unassuming, but he's courageous at the stoppages, smart when he has the ball and a very damaging kick. He brings players into the game and does everything without looking troubled.
all taken from the AFL website.....
I think he's a great fit off half back. Sounds like GC will probably take him at 29 though. I think he's similar to Colquhoun or however you spell it but is more competitive and capable of winning contested footy. Probably doesn't have a massive ceiling but his floor is higher than most because his kicking will be a weapon no matter what.
Toadvine
17?19?
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Apparently he's a creative half forward like Breust and Stevie J. Where did you hear we are interested? I'm not surprised though, we keep in regular contact with Alex Keath, a gun junior footballer who now plays cricket with the Bushrangers just incase he decides to return to footy.
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Can't see Dom Tyson personally. IMO Dom looks to be far more inside than Ellis.
I really cannot see us passing on Lever if available. The difference he would make to our back line as well as midfield would be immeasurable! He simply represents the class and skill set we lack the most! Lever would propel us into the top 4 IMO!
Rodney Dangerfield
Doesn’t matter
He is still in contact with the players at the cricket club and a few of them told me.
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186cm is not a bad height for McKenna worth a late pick probably. Never seen him but reports are good kick who can find the goals with good hands
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Rodney Dangerfield
Doesn’t matter
I've never seen him play.
I've seen him play cricket plenty!!!
Haha.
Actually for a cricket club it's proving a fertile breeding ground for footy!
Adam Kennedy was playing there for a few years until drafted and our very own recruiter Luke Williams also once upon a time!
I've seen him play cricket plenty!!!
Haha.
Actually for a cricket club it's proving a fertile breeding ground for footy!
Adam Kennedy was playing there for a few years until drafted and our very own recruiter Luke Williams also once upon a time!
- Mar 1, 2010
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We might pick him with our 3rd rounder. Who knows? I have not seen him. Its one for the recruiters. If they think its warranted fair enough. Hopefully they have scouted him and know enough to make the right call.Could be a versatile player, really depends on what recruiters see in him and how they rate him!
He would be worth a rookie spot at least one would think!
Oscar Mcdonald will be picked in the top 35.Just for Tomnat Tigers I've done a top 70. Go easy on me please (yeah I know you're all campaigners).
I did it based on picking for RFC. There were a couple I found hard to split and tended to go the Vic option when there was a struggle.
Broke it into sections where I think there is a bit of a drop off in talent.
1-6: Guys we likely have no shot at
1. Christian Petracca
2. Isaac Heeney (top 2 could go either way but seems we ain't getting them who cares
3. Angus Brayshaw
4. Darcy Moore
5. Peter Wright
6. Patrick McCartin
7-15: guys I'd use pick 12 on.
7. Lachie Weller
8. Paul Ahern
9. Jarrod Pickett (found him and Ahern tough to split so gone the home town boy higher.)
10. Jayden Laverde
11. Jordan De Goey
12. Jake Lever
13. Liam Duggan
14. Corey Ellis (I still struggle to separate him and Duggan)
15. Reece McKenzie
16-27: Guys that likely fall between our picks but hopefully get to 33.
16. Connor Blakely
17. Jarrod Garlett
18. Connor Menadue
19. Jack Steele
20. Sam Durdin
21. Nakia Cockatoo
22. Dean Gore (love this kid and shocked there is talk he could go 3rd round, especially to us)
23. Kyle Langford (Found him the hardest to place)
24. Caleb Marchbank
25. Touk Miller (does he become a mid at AFL level or just a forward? If he becomes a mid then I think he could be in the top 15)
26. Hugh Goddard
27. Daniel McKenzie
28-38: 2nd/3rd round prospects
28. Harrison Wigg
29. Brayden Maynard
30. Jaden McGrath (probably too high but he has a heap of talent)
31. Damian Cavka
32. Alex Neal-Bullen
33. Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
34. Liam Dawson
35. Peter Bampton (seems like the slider. If we can grab some speed with first couple I'd take him.)
36. Corey Gregson
37. Tom Lamb (the other with Langford I found hard to place. Not convinced he will reach his ceiling which is quite high)
38. Blaine Boekhorst (didn't realise he was only 21 and had to squeeze him into this group. Very talented)
39-53: other options for pick 52
39. Jack Lonie
40. Jackson Nelson
41. Toby McLean
42. Billy Stretch
43. Clem Smith
44. Declan Hamilton
45. Lukas Webb
46. Billy Evans
47. Aidan Anderson
48. Ed Vickers-Willis (not as high on this bloke as others it seems. I must be missing something)
49. Ed Langdon
50. Keenan Ramsay
51. Daniel Nielsen
52. Nathan Drummond
53. Daniel Capiron
54-70: guys I'd take at pick 70 or rookie.
54. Nic Newman
55. Bailey Dale
56. Matthew Panos
57. Jayden Short
58. Daniel Howe
59. Bradley Walsh (really like this kid, despite his lack of athleticism)
60. Josh Glenn
61. Mac Bower (under-performed this year but he's tall and athletic with good skills, nice project to see if he can put it together)
62. James Rose
63. Daniel Butler
64. Oleg Markov
65. Dougal Howard
66. Caleb Daniel
67. Jermaine Miller-Lewis
68. Shannon Taylor
69. Matthew Goodyear
70. Nick Mellington
Knew I'd leave someone out.
Really really good key defender. I know for a fact that Bulldogs, Essendon have massive interest. Extremely intelligent fella too. Would love him at the tiges.Knew I'd leave someone out.
Yeah I should have him around 30ish.
You've got marchbank rated at 24th which is interesting. He's been invited to draft night so someone inside the top 10 must have serious interest.
Yeah it's just where I rate them not where they'll go. Goddard I have lower and I believe he's a top 7 certainty it seems.
You've compiled a quality list.
Cheers mate. I've probably forgotten more than McDonald. I didn't save my original one so threw it together quickly.
Coz for 24 years I've been living next door to Ellis
Ellis? Which faaarking Ellis?
Ellis? Which faaarking Ellis?
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