Bomber Thompson cost us the 2008 and 2010 Premeirships

[geelong_crazy26]

Hawthorn have just done what Brisbane did by winning 3 premierships in a row .Many Geelong supporters are asking themselves right now why could we not do this ?

From 2007-2011 we were the best side in the comp by some distance , this was a side that we spent more than 7 years building and consisted of 16 All Australian players which is far more than Hawthorn have had.

Geelong were the best side from 2007-2011 and won 3 premierships.
Hawthorn were the best side from 2012-2015 and are going to win 4 premiership .

The reason for this is simply that from 2007-2010 we were using an absolutely stupid moronic game plan. No other premiership side over the past 15 years took anyone near the amount of risks we did when moving the ball .The way we constantly tried to run and carry the ball with handballs through the middle of the ground turned us into turnover merchants. All we had to do was take a more sensible approach but we kept on gifting opposition turnovers that they scored from.

To put it simple the way Bomber Thompson had us playing on at all costs via handballs up the middle of the ground , gave our opposition too many chances to create turnovers that the scored from .

Under a good coach we would of won 3 premierships between 2007-2011.

 

[Mahlepi]

The standard has dropped with the expansion clubs

 

[Art Vandelay_]

This will end well

 

[SkittleCats]

Please for the love of god lock this thread.

 

[Daniel McL]

Hawthorn have just done what Brisbane did by winning 3 premierships in a row .Many Geelong supporters are asking themselves right now why could we not do this ?

From 2007-2011 we were the best side in the comp by some distance , this was a side that we spent more than 7 years building and consisted of 16 All Australian players which is far more than Hawthorn have had.

Geelong were the best side from 2007-2011 and won 3 premierships.
Hawthorn were the best side from 2012-2015 and are going to win 4 premiership .

The reason for this is simply that from 2007-2010 we were using an absolutely stupid moronic game plan. No other premiership side over the past 15 years took anyone near the amount of risks we did when moving the ball .The way we constantly tried to run and carry the ball with handballs through the middle of the ground turned us into turnover merchants. All we had to do was take a more sensible approach but we kept on gifting opposition turnovers that they scored from.

To put it simple the way Bomber Thompson had us playing on at all costs via handballs up the middle of the ground , gave our opposition too many chances to create turnovers that the scored from .

Under a good coach we would of won 3 premierships between 2007-2011.

Wait...

 

[Linx]

So who won us the 2007 and 2009 flags?

Rather than dwell on past disappointments, why not focus of what we did accomplish, which was bloody a lot.

 

[SkittleCats]

Wait...

Shh don't point it out, you'll make his argument look even more stupid.

 

[Eudes]

Hawthorn have just done what Brisbane did by winning 3 premierships in a row .Many Geelong supporters are asking themselves right now why could we not do this ?

From 2007-2011 we were the best side in the comp by some distance , this was a side that we spent more than 7 years building and consisted of 16 All Australian players which is far more than Hawthorn have had.

Geelong were the best side from 2007-2011 and won 3 premierships.
Hawthorn were the best side from 2012-2015 and are going to win 4 premiership .

The reason for this is simply that from 2007-2010 we were using an absolutely stupid moronic game plan. No other premiership side over the past 15 years took anyone near the amount of risks we did when moving the ball .The way we constantly tried to run and carry the ball with handballs through the middle of the ground turned us into turnover merchants. All we had to do was take a more sensible approach but we kept on gifting opposition turnovers that they scored from.

To put it simple the way Bomber Thompson had us playing on at all costs via handballs up the middle of the ground , gave our opposition too many chances to create turnovers that the scored from .

Under a good coach we would of won 3 premierships between 2007-2011.

When did Hawthorn win the extra premiership?

 

[GFrost]

I'm confused.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Mark Thompson won us the 2007, 2009, and 2011 premierships.

 

[Jimmy Yamazaki]

You're by far the worst poster on here OP.

 

[dazbroncos]

Im gonna lock this up until later today.
It will reopen shortly.

Go Catters

 

[dazbroncos]

bumped

 

[Biggy_Boy]

bumped

Why?

 

[Willo_]

bumped

well this is a head scratching bump to say the least.. bored Daz?

 

[dazbroncos]

some relevant information to be added to this thread shortly

 

[Turbocat]

Thanks Daz....

Was our strength our weakness... as this article yet again regurgitates .... or did our system work and we failed to convert.

For mine ...The Shark thing is a well worn story ... and im not sure having the Secret Spy seeing us train going down the "Geelong Highway" was a great surprise..anyone that had watched Geelong for the previous two years would have known Geelong's method. We failed due to a lack of conversion and a few players that carried injuries into the game.



http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-02-18/secret-spies-the-life-of-an-opposition-analyst


Secret spies: The life of an opposition analyst
Marc McGowan
Feb 18, 2018 8:30PM

The secrets of an opposition analysts
I'd go in the night before and take my sleeping bag and sleep in there, then watch the whole training session and you'd know basically everything they were doingAn opposition analyst
Related

• Legendary Grand Final story shot down as myth

HE'S THE little-known inspiration behind one of the most famous AFL Grand Final speeches.

A mischievous plan was in motion as Luke Chambers, one of the AFL's faceless men, flanked Hawthorn football manager Mark Evans on the hallowed turf of the MCG.

They were there, to Geelong's knowledge, to do a ground inspection on Grand Final eve in 2008.

Chambers, an opposition analyst at the Hawks, had loftier motives.

He crossed the 'G and entered its stands, finding a nondescript spot – with only his sunglasses for disguise – to secretly watch the Cats' final closed training session.

Chambers' discovery, relayed to Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson, was crucial: all of the Mark Thompson-coached team's gameplay drills went through the corridor.

Fast-forward to Grand Final day and Clarkson, before winning the first of four premierships that sealed his legacy, implored his players to "kill the shark".

The idea behind the combative words, with a Great White Shark projected onto a whiteboard for dramatic effect, was for his Hawks to stifle Geelong's direct ball movement and force it wide.

"Sharks have to move forward … as soon as they stop, they die," Clarkson roared in his pre-match speech, immortalised in the documentary The Essence of the Game.

"(Geelong) will try to come through us like a shark …

"Good luck to them on a big stage like the Grand Final, with lots of pressure, (against) the best defensive-pressure side in the competition."

Chambers ironically later worked as a senior analyst for Thompson at Essendon – a role he filled at Melbourne before that – but never told the dual premiership coach of his deception.

He left the AFL industry for good in the fallout from James Hird's ugly exit as the Bombers' senior coach in 2015, and now works in the banking sector.

Hawthorn celebrates the 2008 premiership win. Picture: AFL Photos

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Ooooh fresh info.

 

[Willo_]

Thanks Daz....

Was our strength our weakness... as this article yet again regurgitates .... or did our system work and we failed to convert.

For mine ...The Shark thing is a well worn story ... and im not sure having the Secret Spy seeing us train going down the "Geelong Highway" was a great surprise..anyone that had watched Geelong for the previous two years would have known Geelong's method. We failed due to a lack of conversion and a few players that carried injuries into the game.



http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-02-18/secret-spies-the-life-of-an-opposition-analyst


Secret spies: The life of an opposition analyst
Marc McGowan
Feb 18, 2018 8:30PM

The secrets of an opposition analysts
I'd go in the night before and take my sleeping bag and sleep in there, then watch the whole training session and you'd know basically everything they were doingAn opposition analyst
Related

• Legendary Grand Final story shot down as myth

HE'S THE little-known inspiration behind one of the most famous AFL Grand Final speeches.

A mischievous plan was in motion as Luke Chambers, one of the AFL's faceless men, flanked Hawthorn football manager Mark Evans on the hallowed turf of the MCG.

They were there, to Geelong's knowledge, to do a ground inspection on Grand Final eve in 2008.

Chambers, an opposition analyst at the Hawks, had loftier motives.

He crossed the 'G and entered its stands, finding a nondescript spot – with only his sunglasses for disguise – to secretly watch the Cats' final closed training session.

Chambers' discovery, relayed to Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson, was crucial: all of the Mark Thompson-coached team's gameplay drills went through the corridor.

Fast-forward to Grand Final day and Clarkson, before winning the first of four premierships that sealed his legacy, implored his players to "kill the shark".

The idea behind the combative words, with a Great White Shark projected onto a whiteboard for dramatic effect, was for his Hawks to stifle Geelong's direct ball movement and force it wide.

"Sharks have to move forward … as soon as they stop, they die," Clarkson roared in his pre-match speech, immortalised in the documentary The Essence of the Game.

"(Geelong) will try to come through us like a shark …

"Good luck to them on a big stage like the Grand Final, with lots of pressure, (against) the best defensive-pressure side in the competition."

Chambers ironically later worked as a senior analyst for Thompson at Essendon – a role he filled at Melbourne before that – but never told the dual premiership coach of his deception.

He left the AFL industry for good in the fallout from James Hird's ugly exit as the Bombers' senior coach in 2015, and now works in the banking sector.

Hawthorn celebrates the 2008 premiership win. Picture: AFL Photos

Yeah it was no secret what we were going to do, and we should have been up by 6 or 7 goals at half time but choked up something shocking in front of goal.
Not sure an analyst would have only worked that out in grand final week

 

[dazbroncos]

kicked ourselves out of it....

bad kicking is bad footy.

GO Catters

 

[dazbroncos]

Why?

to test the alert function on your watchlist...

And it worked.

GO Catters

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Chambers' discovery, relayed to Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson, was crucial: all of the Mark Thompson-coached team's gameplay drills went through the corridor.

https://my.mixtape.moe/hbozjf.webm

That's unbelievable. Geelong liked to play through the corridor?! That is some unbelievable insight right there. Chambers earning his big bucks there, I see. "Clarkson, have you uh noticed the Cats have a propensity for corridor footy?"

I don't see how this pertains to Thompson 'costing' the club flags. Geelong's plan got figured out. I think we've established that. I don't think 2008 was wholly on him, though. The players themselves s**t the bed pretty spectacularly from what I recall.

 

[David the Cat]

This was a s**t thread when it started....nothing has changed.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

and 2011 premierships.

Funny how this slipped through to the keeper last time.
Nice try

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Funny how this slipped through to the keeper last time.
Nice try

I don't know what you're talking about.