Football club finances / FFP

[moomba]

What a load of old shat.

City's commercial revenue shouldn't even be a fifth of Uniteds. United have got about 20 times the amount of support City have. Liverpool, arsenal and Chelsea should also have far greater revenue streams.

So bent

Sorry for making too much money for your liking.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Sorry for making too much money for your liking.

You have to admit it's completely crooked though. How can city's commercial value be almost that of Uniteds?

Obviously there's more behind those sponsorship deals than we are aware

 

[moomba]

You have to admit it's completely crooked though. How can city's commercial value be almost that of Uniteds?

Obviously there's more behind those sponsorship deals than we are aware

I gave you a few reasons why we're doing well. You can choose to ignore them if you like.

 

[chef]

I think it shows any club getting the 'right' owner can become a 'top' club.

 

[Cruyff14]

Someone is mad.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

I'm not mad, I just think it's ridiculous that's all.

If anyone should be mad it's you Cruyffy with all the players they've poached from you in recent years

 

[moomba]

Poached?

 

[Latro]

Besides Nasri who would Arsenal fans care about.

 

[Zidane98]

Besides Nasri who would Arsenal fans care about.

Adebayor.

 

[moomba]

Adebayor.

Adebayor was just a standard transfer. We put a bid in, Arsenal were happy to accept it. We agreed personal terms.

Most Arsenal fans hated him after he flashed his knickers to Milan the previous season.

 

[Zidane98]

Adebayor was just a standard transfer. We put a bid in, Arsenal were happy to accept it. We agreed personal terms.

Most Arsenal fans hated him after he flashed his knickers to Milan the previous season.

Going off Ade's celebration against Arsenal he was happy to accept too

 

[FAITH]

United is on the same path as LFC, they will continue to fall until they get a gun manager with a long term plan.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

What fell last season?

 

[Bojan KantKick]

United's net spend to date is 8m pounds with 142m left available. I guess there is the chance that the Glazers will pay off some of the debt. If they used it on the debt, it would fall from 382m to 240m pounds with annual interest falling from 20m pounds to 12.6m pounds.

 

[pantskyle]

United's net spend to date is 8m pounds with 142m left available. I guess there is the chance that the Glazers will pay off some of the debt. If they used it on the debt, it would fall from 382m to 240m pounds with annual interest falling from 20m pounds to 12.6m pounds.

The Glazers could just pay the debt off in full now, if they wanted...

 

[Bojan KantKick]

The Glazers could just pay the debt off in full now, if they wanted...

i don't think they want to. They'd probably keep the excess funds in cash or give themselves another dividend.

 

[Zidane98]

i don't think they want to. They'd probably keep the excess funds in cash or give themselves another dividend.

Ultimately they want to sell the club at a profit long term. Better off letting new owners pay out debts incurred.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Ultimately they want to sell the club at a profit long term. Better off letting new owners pay out debts incurred.

Debt is cheaper than equity so rolling the debt is more than likely. However, as the debt is so cheap now, it could be a good time to pay it off (some of it off). The GFC farked them because debt became ridiculously expensive.

 

[moomba]

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/manchester-city-i-threw-brick-through.html?m=1

The excellent Swiss Ramble estimates the effect of this summers transfer window (purchases and sales/loans) for us is only €8.7m.

Also says that reaching R16 in the champions league this year should result in an increase in prize money of at least €20m compared to last season.

 

[chef]

Quite asstounding the revenue growth of 300% in 5 years. The sheik is doing some great work.

The money you make from commercial revenue is pretty impressive.

 

[Zidane98]

Quite asstounding the revenue growth of 300% in 5 years. The sheik in doing some great work.

The money you make from commercial revenue is pretty impressive.

Not difficult when you are trading with a company owned by the brother of the Sheikh.

 

[moomba]

Quite asstounding the revenue growth of 300% in 5 years. The sheik in doing some great work.

The money you make from commercial revenue is pretty impressive.

Some good deals this past 12 months as well. Major deals with the likes of SAP, Nissan, Citigroup in the past year plus a load of smaller foreign deals like Man United are doing. I'd expect a big increase again in this set of accounts, and then a good doubling of Etihad/Nike deals the year after.

We put a lot of resources into our commercial department and it's really starting to show rewards.

 

[Magma]

Not difficult when you are trading with a company owned by the brother of the Sheikh.

maybe they could be nice enough to bump the deal up to market value

 

[Zidane98]

maybe they could be nice enough to bump the deal up to market value

400m is market value and then some. You are not a bigger club commercially than Arsenal who receive less for naming rights. They don't have the advantage of dealing with a company who's owner is the brother of their owner.

 

[moomba]

I think we can look forward to £80m a year from our next deal whether it's Etihad or another company.

Unless we split shirt, stadium and academy aspects of the deal of course.