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you are such a blowhard. i bet you parrot global warming also.
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So nothing then?
What does global warming have to do with it?
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you are such a blowhard. i bet you parrot global warming also.
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So nothing then?
What does global warming have to do with it?
Youre asking questions that have already been asked and answered mate.
If you think differently to the accepted scientific, legal, sociological, biological and genetic evidence and theory and think that 'racial genetics' is instead the answer to this phenomenon, post your evidence in this thread.
What youre doing is identifying a phenomenon (the african running phenomenon), providing a theory (racial genetics is the cause) and then ignoring the accepted data that proves your theory wrong.
And you are ignoring this accepted scientific data on no other grounds than because it goes against your assumptions - and getting angry in the process.
Find me the evidence that falsifies the human geonome project, and contradicts the findings of biologists, genticists, sociologists, anthropologists, evolotionary scientists and so on.
We'd all be really excited to see it.
A Jamaican urologist, William Aiken, has proposed another, speculative, suggestion about why a nation of 2.8 million has achieved so much-
"Since Jamaica was one of the last stops to be made by the slave ships, it ensured that only the most resilient and fittest of slaves were alive to disembark," he wrote in an article connecting sprinting prowess with high rates of prostate cancer, both of which he suggested could be linked to testosterone levels..
besides the facts that black people have a higher muscle to fat ratio,
a higher point of gravity,
more flexible backbone,
more fast twitch muscle,
and cant swim for s**t,
Not true. No studies (with even a modicum of solid methodology) have ever been conducted that demonstrate this.
Certainly no studies have ever been conducted that demonstrate 'racial biology' is the cause.
Not true. No studies (with even a modicum of solid methodology) have ever been conducted that demonstrate this.
Certainly no studies have ever been conducted that demonstrate 'racial biology' is the cause.
Not true. No studies (with even a modicum of solid methodology) have ever been conducted that demonstrate this.
Certainly no studies have ever been conducted that demonstrate 'racial biology' is the cause.
Not true. No studies (with even a modicum of solid methodology) have ever been conducted that demonstrate this.
Certainly no studies have ever been conducted that demonstrate 'racial biology' is the cause.
Not true. No studies (with even a modicum of solid methodology) have ever been conducted that demonstrate this.
Certainly no studies have ever been conducted that demonstrate 'racial biology' is the cause of the lack of 'black' olympic swimmers.
You would think with all that 'fast twitch muscle fibre', they would be pretty awesome at the 50m freestyle sprint yeah?
By the way, whats a 'black person'?
You are aware that there are literally thousands of different (isolated)ethnic groups on the continent of Africa alone right?
We lumping Somalis, Kenyans, Eritrayans, Zimbabweans etc all together as one 'race' now are we?
Subjective and arbitrary racial definition fail.
Belly-buttons key to success in sport: study
By Karin Zeitvogel (AFP) – Jul 12, 2010
WASHINGTON — Scientists have found the reason why blacks dominate on the running track and whites in the swimming pool: it's in their belly-buttons, a study published Monday shows.
What's important is not whether an athlete has an innie or an outie but where his or her navel is in relation to the rest of the body, says the study published in the International Journal of Design and Nature and Ecodynamics.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hRv5sUxxWidc9Go7BQLl8iSIwcJw
Many scientists have avoided studying why blacks make better sprinters and whites better swimmers because of what the study calls the "obvious" race angle.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hRv5sUxxWidc9Go7BQLl8iSIwcJw
because of politically correct shills like malfice.....
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do you just accept everything that you read as gospel? I hope you aren't an Andrew Bolt fan
read an weep...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/47577241/...-and-Why-We-re-Afraid-to-Talk-About-It-Review
Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We’re Afraid to Talk About It
Jon Entine (2000
tigernova, did you notice even in that article that the authors considered race a 'social construct' ?
Also there was no link to their research, methodology or imperical data - That read like a ninemsn.com article
Race isn't a 'social construct'.
There is no 'human race', humans are a species, not a race. A race is a subcategory of a species.
If you don't want to call it a 'race' than it's an 'ethnic group' or 'population group', or whatever else liberal professors want to call it.
However, by their logic a german shepherd and a chihuahua are the exact same thing. I mean afterall their both dogs aren't they? Seriously
says who?
where is your evidence?
tigernova, I get the feeling that you dont understand the Scientific method, principles of falsification, importance of scientific consensus, and (importantly) problems with confirmation bias and issues with flawed methodology.
because of politically correct shills like malfice.....
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Pretty much. The only people who can really study it and give it crediblity are students in the field of science, anthropology, biology etc. However, once they finish their bachelors and go on to doing honors or masters or PH'Ds they are their to do it for career purposes. People who are in academia and earning money from lecturing don't want to study or write anything controversial because they don't want to come off as politically insensitive or 'racist'. However, even if they want to write a thesis on something controversial like race/genetics they need to get approval from a whole range of people- their supervisor, university, ethics committees etc.
That's the thing with Uni. It's not about writing down your opinions it's just about regurgitating other people's opinions and than agreeing with them. Anybody that goes against the grain fails- The nail that sticks out gets hammmered. However, in time this will change. Remember when people use to think the earth was flat!
I'm not going to weigh into the debate either way, but you clearly don't get it. You've named about 4 players, out of the entire NBA - did you forget Larry Bird as well? When you look across the NBA, you'd be foolish to suggest African-Americans don't dominate. 9 out of the 10 All-Star starters were African-American, and I haven't even included Blake Griffin who is half-half anyway.
Tell me who this guy is, Why he's second in the League in Rebounds, 4th in Points, First in Double Doubles, Third in Efficiency ratings. Also won the 3 point shooting contest. He's not bad at all. However he seems to have the wrong shade about him...
Uh, White guys dont dominate the NBA? I need my eyes Checked, Because im pretty sure 3 of the last 5 guys to win the NBA MVP are white. Plus Kevin Love Ain't too shabby either. Dont bring up a sport i love to try to convince me that blacks are somehow better at the sport Because the best 3 players ever happened to be Black.
Again thats an incredibly pig headed statement. It's more to do with the Black Culture and Basketball to explain why more NBA players are African origin rather then the "Fast Twitch Muscle" that white people supposidly do not have. Watching Baseball where you would need Fast Twitch Muscles every "Race" has legends of every colour, However shouldnt black people Dominate the sport if it has to do with simply
It all comes deep down from people who are looking for reasons why Black people and white people are different somehow, and when people throw hairball theories like that possibly giving an expanation of it people tend to agree to justify deep down they think black and white people are more different and worlds apart. It's almost exclusively a cultural and a enviroment thing why we are different, not a huge genetic difference like you suggest
Your last line actually highlights the progression we have made past the concept of 'races' - 400 years ago the Europeans deployed a contsruct of 'race' to justify things like slavery, and built a hierarchy of man dependant on their closeness to the likeness of God. Whites were at the top, blacks were on the bottom, and Asians and Indigenous Americans were inbetween.
There is no scientific backup to this construct - An entire construct was based on arbriatary physical differences (such as skin pigment) and whole sets of characteristics were considered inherent because of the 'race', rather than in spite.
Just because the concept has been so normalised that you believe it whoe heartedly, doesn't mean it is true. As Maliface has tried on copius of other occasions, please bring forward some scienctific data that supports the idea of distinct different human 'races'.
I’m genuinely curious. Just give me a breakdown of what the 'races' categories are and how all 7 billion humans who populate this earth fit in them
Given that there are surprisingly so many human race experts in BF, I’ve always wondered what ‘race’ these groups of people: Indians (from the Asian subcontinent), Aborigines, Papua New Guineans and Pacific Islanders/Polynesians belong to ?
I’m genuinely curious. Just give me a breakdown of what the 'races' categories are and how all 7 billion humans who populate this earth fit in them
Given that there are surprisingly so many human race experts in BF, I’ve always wondered what ‘race’ these groups of people: Indians (from the Asian subcontinent), Aborigines, Papua New Guineans and Pacific Islanders/Polynesians belong to ?
I’m genuinely curious. Just give me a breakdown of what the 'races' categories are and how all 7 billion humans who populate this earth fit in them
Cut & pasted a whole lot of outdated rubbish and psuedo-science in defense of the social construct of 'race'