1994 Round 14 - St. Kilda and Adelaide drew at Waverley Park.
Long Term Ladders - Most Successful Clubs
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My understanding is that each team will have 17 matches played in the ladder - one for the last time they played each club. So, for instance, North would be 9-8. Going to be tricky for teams yet to play GWS (Hawks, Collingwood).
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All matches round 14 2007 to round 14 2012 including finals.Teams ranked by match/win percentage then for and against percentage.
One word to describe Geelong's form in the past five years - OUTSTANDING
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If I'd known about Roger's Results, it would have saved me a fair bit of time, but I wouldn't have had the fun I had putting them together.
I didn't put these together to showcase how the Swans have gone in the past 10 years, although it has been a good ride, and will continue to be so for a while yet. We don't need to tank for early draft picks to perform well.
On another note, how many Victorian clubs have never relocated? Maybe one (Melbourne)? The only difference is our move was interstate rather than across town.
Back on topic, I did these ladders as a request on my Top 10 Players Thread: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/here-it-is-2012-afl-top-10.930075/page-2
Roger has given you three of the four ladders I did, although I stopped one round earlier than he did, as for example Rd 14 last year would be more than 22 games plus finals ago.
The Head to Head ladder will eventually have 34 matches per club - the most recent result against each opponent, home and away. Having less than 34 just means your club has yet to play either the Suns or the Giants in both instances. I had to go back to 2008 to find a couple, but that's for the fixturing discussion.
Anyway, Here It Is:
I didn't put these together to showcase how the Swans have gone in the past 10 years, although it has been a good ride, and will continue to be so for a while yet. We don't need to tank for early draft picks to perform well.
On another note, how many Victorian clubs have never relocated? Maybe one (Melbourne)? The only difference is our move was interstate rather than across town.
Back on topic, I did these ladders as a request on my Top 10 Players Thread: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/here-it-is-2012-afl-top-10.930075/page-2
Roger has given you three of the four ladders I did, although I stopped one round earlier than he did, as for example Rd 14 last year would be more than 22 games plus finals ago.
The Head to Head ladder will eventually have 34 matches per club - the most recent result against each opponent, home and away. Having less than 34 just means your club has yet to play either the Suns or the Giants in both instances. I had to go back to 2008 to find a couple, but that's for the fixturing discussion.
Anyway, Here It Is:
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HEAD TO HEAD
Club…………………………P………W………L………D………For……Agnt…………%………Pts
Collingwood……………………32………29…………3…………0…………3413…………2301…………148.33………116
Geelong………………………………33………25…………8…………0…………3534…………2571…………137.46………100
Hawthorn……………………………32………24…………8…………0…………3503…………2537…………138.08…………96
Hawthorn……………………………32………24…………8…………0…………3503…………2537…………138.08…………96
Sydney Swans…………………33………23…………9…………1…………3079…………2448…………125.78…………94
West Coast………………………32………21………11…………0…………3289…………2552…………128.98…………84
Essendon……………………………33………18………15…………0…………3371…………3107…………108.50…………72
St Kilda……………………………32………17………15…………0…………3006…………2644…………113.69…………68
Adelaide……………………………33………17………16…………0…………2859…………3086……………92.64…………68
Carlton………………………………32………16………16…………0…………3015…………2734…………110.28…………64
Fremantle…………………………32………16………16…………0…………2591…………2898……………89.41…………60
North Melbourne…………33………15………18…………0…………3166…………3296……………96.06…………60
Western Bulldogs………33………15………18…………0…………2899…………3069……………94.46…………60
Richmond……………………………32………12………20…………0…………2936…………3182……………92.27…………48
Brisbane Lions……………33………12………21…………0…………2852…………3186……………89.52…………48
Melbourne…………………………33…………8………24…………1…………2814…………3392……………82.96…………34
Port Adelaide………………32…………8………24…………0…………2560…………3453……………74.14…………32
Gold Coast………………………29…………3………26…………0…………1995…………3618……………55.14…………12
GWS Giants………………………13…………1………12…………0……………732…………1540……………47.53……………4
manicmagpie
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Nice. Collingwood's next 3 opponents are the only 3 losses on that ladder, plus we then play GWS for the first time. Have the opportunity to go to 33-0 if we can win all 4 games.
Does anyone know the number of times a side has won the most recent encounter (either home or away) against all opponents? I'm sure Collingwood have never done it in my lifetime (Geelong obviously the only one in the way last year).
I know that St Kilda (2009), Essendon (2000) and Geelong (2007-08) managed it, but the great Brisbane side of 2001 and Carlton of 1995 both narrowly missed out.
It's interesting that the 10 year ladder highlights the four biggest tankers in AFL history.
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PAST YEAR
West Coast………………………25………19…………6…………0…………2596…………1974…………131.51…………76
Hawthorn……………………………25………18…………7…………0…………2699…………1937…………139.34…………72
Geelong………………………………25………17…………8…………0…………2758…………1993…………138.38…………68
Sydney Swans…………………24………16…………8…………0…………2306…………1784…………129.26…………64
Essendon……………………………23………16…………7…………0…………2393…………2165…………110.53…………64
St Kilda……………………………24………14………10…………0…………2373…………1904…………124.63…………56
Adelaide……………………………22………14…………8…………0…………2058…………1981…………103.89…………56
Carlton………………………………24………12………12…………0…………2377…………2016…………117.91…………48
North Melbourne…………22………12………10…………0…………2237…………2202…………101.59…………48
Richmond……………………………22…………9………13…………0…………2014…………2159……………93.28…………36
Western Bulldogs………22…………9………13…………0…………1891…………2115……………89.41…………36
Brisbane Lions……………22…………8………14…………0…………1928…………2099……………91.85…………32
Fremantle…………………………22…………8………14…………0…………1639…………2027……………80.86…………32
Port Adelaide………………22…………5………17…………0…………1702…………2365……………71.97…………20
Melbourne…………………………22…………4………18…………0…………1642…………2568……………63.94…………16
Gold Coast………………………23…………1………22…………0…………1475…………2688……………54.87……………4
GWS Giants………………………13…………1………12…………0……………732…………1540……………47.53……………4
PAST 5 YEARS
Collingwood…………………124………88………34…………2………12726………10074…………126.33………356
St Kilda…………………………120………76………40…………4………11073…………9397…………117.84………312
Hawthorn…………………………118………74………43…………1………11903…………9984…………119.22………298
Sydney Swans………………116………63………50…………3………10701…………9709…………110.22………258
Western Bulldogs……118………62………54…………2………11424………10942…………104.41………252
Adelaide…………………………113………58………55…………0………10106…………9884…………102.25………232
Carlton……………………………113………55………57…………1………11215………10685…………104.96………222
North Melbourne………113………54………57…………2………10376………10982……………94.48………220
West Coast……………………114………50………64…………0………10259………10883……………94.27………200
Essendon…………………………111………48………61…………2………10673………11645……………91.65………196
Brisbane Lions…………111………45………64…………2…………9886………10502……………94.13………184
Fremantle………………………111………44………67…………0…………9725………10754……………90.43………176
Port Adelaide……………112………42………70…………0…………9797………11378……………86.10………168
Richmond…………………………109………38………68…………3…………9743………11544……………84.40………158
Melbourne………………………109………27………80…………2…………8772………11549……………75.95………112
Gold Coast………………………35…………3………32…………0…………2355…………4269……………55.17…………12
GWS Giants………………………13…………1………12…………0……………732…………1540……………47.53……………4
PAST 10 YEARS
Collingwood…………………241……146………93…………2………23620………20836…………113.36………588
St Kilda…………………………236……141………91…………4………22353………19496…………114.65………572
Sydney Swans………………237……138………96…………3………21721………19310…………112.49………558
Adelaide…………………………233……131……102…………0………21330………19267…………110.71………524
West Coast……………………234……126……106…………2………21828………21159…………103.16………508
Hawthorn…………………………228……117……110…………1………19028………18277…………104.11………470
Port Adelaide……………233……117……115…………1………21379………22066……………96.89………470
Brisbane Lions…………231……112……115…………4………21592………21078…………102.44………456
North Melbourne………225……109……113…………3………20762………21909……………94.76………442
Western Bulldogs……230……106……121…………3………22441………22975……………97.68………430
Fremantle………………………225……105……120…………0………20172………21014……………95.99………420
Essendon…………………………227………99……125…………3………21744………23059……………94.30………402
Carlton……………………………223………81……139…………3………20542………23230……………88.43………330
Melbourne………………………225………80……142…………3………19562………22860……………85.57………326
Richmond…………………………219………74……141…………4………19037………22676……………83.95………304
Gold Coast………………………35…………3………32…………0…………2355…………4269……………55.17…………12
GWS Giants………………………13…………1………12…………0……………732…………1540……………47.53……………4
Club……………P……W……L…D……For…Agnt…%………Pts
Collingwood……………………26………22…………4…………0…………2706…………2005…………134.96…………88West Coast………………………25………19…………6…………0…………2596…………1974…………131.51…………76
Hawthorn……………………………25………18…………7…………0…………2699…………1937…………139.34…………72
Geelong………………………………25………17…………8…………0…………2758…………1993…………138.38…………68
Sydney Swans…………………24………16…………8…………0…………2306…………1784…………129.26…………64
Essendon……………………………23………16…………7…………0…………2393…………2165…………110.53…………64
St Kilda……………………………24………14………10…………0…………2373…………1904…………124.63…………56
Adelaide……………………………22………14…………8…………0…………2058…………1981…………103.89…………56
Carlton………………………………24………12………12…………0…………2377…………2016…………117.91…………48
North Melbourne…………22………12………10…………0…………2237…………2202…………101.59…………48
Richmond……………………………22…………9………13…………0…………2014…………2159……………93.28…………36
Western Bulldogs………22…………9………13…………0…………1891…………2115……………89.41…………36
Brisbane Lions……………22…………8………14…………0…………1928…………2099……………91.85…………32
Fremantle…………………………22…………8………14…………0…………1639…………2027……………80.86…………32
Port Adelaide………………22…………5………17…………0…………1702…………2365……………71.97…………20
Melbourne…………………………22…………4………18…………0…………1642…………2568……………63.94…………16
Gold Coast………………………23…………1………22…………0…………1475…………2688……………54.87……………4
GWS Giants………………………13…………1………12…………0……………732…………1540……………47.53……………4
PAST 5 YEARS
Club……………P……W……L…D…For……Agnt…%………Pts
Geelong…………………...124……102…..22…….0……13866………9607………144.33……..408Collingwood…………………124………88………34…………2………12726………10074…………126.33………356
St Kilda…………………………120………76………40…………4………11073…………9397…………117.84………312
Hawthorn…………………………118………74………43…………1………11903…………9984…………119.22………298
Sydney Swans………………116………63………50…………3………10701…………9709…………110.22………258
Western Bulldogs……118………62………54…………2………11424………10942…………104.41………252
Adelaide…………………………113………58………55…………0………10106…………9884…………102.25………232
Carlton……………………………113………55………57…………1………11215………10685…………104.96………222
North Melbourne………113………54………57…………2………10376………10982……………94.48………220
West Coast……………………114………50………64…………0………10259………10883……………94.27………200
Essendon…………………………111………48………61…………2………10673………11645……………91.65………196
Brisbane Lions…………111………45………64…………2…………9886………10502……………94.13………184
Fremantle………………………111………44………67…………0…………9725………10754……………90.43………176
Port Adelaide……………112………42………70…………0…………9797………11378……………86.10………168
Richmond…………………………109………38………68…………3…………9743………11544……………84.40………158
Melbourne………………………109………27………80…………2…………8772………11549……………75.95………112
Gold Coast………………………35…………3………32…………0…………2355…………4269……………55.17…………12
GWS Giants………………………13…………1………12…………0……………732…………1540……………47.53……………4
PAST 10 YEARS
Club……………P.W.…L.…D…For…Agnt…%………Pts
Geelong……………...……239…162……75………2……24369……19356………125.90………652Collingwood…………………241……146………93…………2………23620………20836…………113.36………588
St Kilda…………………………236……141………91…………4………22353………19496…………114.65………572
Sydney Swans………………237……138………96…………3………21721………19310…………112.49………558
Adelaide…………………………233……131……102…………0………21330………19267…………110.71………524
West Coast……………………234……126……106…………2………21828………21159…………103.16………508
Hawthorn…………………………228……117……110…………1………19028………18277…………104.11………470
Port Adelaide……………233……117……115…………1………21379………22066……………96.89………470
Brisbane Lions…………231……112……115…………4………21592………21078…………102.44………456
North Melbourne………225……109……113…………3………20762………21909……………94.76………442
Western Bulldogs……230……106……121…………3………22441………22975……………97.68………430
Fremantle………………………225……105……120…………0………20172………21014……………95.99………420
Essendon…………………………227………99……125…………3………21744………23059……………94.30………402
Carlton……………………………223………81……139…………3………20542………23230……………88.43………330
Melbourne………………………225………80……142…………3………19562………22860……………85.57………326
Richmond…………………………219………74……141…………4………19037………22676……………83.95………304
Gold Coast………………………35…………3………32…………0…………2355…………4269……………55.17…………12
GWS Giants………………………13…………1………12…………0……………732…………1540……………47.53……………4
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Almost right Manic. Your three losses are all away games against Carlton, Geelong and Hawthorn, so you can turn the Cats' one over next week, but the Blues and Hawks will have to wait until they are listed as the home team.
I'm sure Roger can work out your other question, but if I get a chance I'll have a look.
Ladders could use a little more Geelong..
But nice compilation there by the OP..although when the word ladders or stats are called upon R.R is there with the answers to all of footy's tricky questions. A fountain of information is R.R..always appreciate his work.
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Don't know why they disappeared. I'm trying to put them back in but BigFooty keeps freezing on me.
I'll keep trying but the Cats are clear first in both ladders.
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West Coast at 6th, I'll take that considering there's a spoon in there
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PAST 5 YEARS
Geelong…………………124……102………22…………0………13866………9607…………144.33………408
PAST 10 YEARS
Geelong…………………239……162………75…………2………24369………19356…………125.90………652
Bigfooty.com keeps freezing on me as it has done ever since it was changed, so I can't edit the original posts. If a moderator can move these into their rightful positions, that'd be great.
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Geelong…………………124……102………22…………0………13866………9607…………144.33………408
PAST 10 YEARS
Geelong…………………239……162………75…………2………24369………19356…………125.90………652
Bigfooty.com keeps freezing on me as it has done ever since it was changed, so I can't edit the original posts. If a moderator can move these into their rightful positions, that'd be great.
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manicmagpie
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Tsk. My bad, got confused with wiping off our 'last meeting' losses. {Slaps himself on wrist.}
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jonbe54, why are you so angry in this thread? You're coming across like a petulant, bad tempered child. I don't get why you turned this into a Collingwood v Sydney thing. Besides, if the Swans offend you so much, perhaps direct your anger at your own former President, Allan McAlister. He was the one who stopped Carlton killing them twenty years ago.
Here It Is, nice work. The feats of the recent Geelong teams really are incredible.
Here It Is, nice work. The feats of the recent Geelong teams really are incredible.
Isn't this the long-term ladder?
Gotta love Richmond
Gotta love Richmond
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Sorry mate, but:
is fairly provocative. No need for it.
Of course, if you want to look at the records from 1897, Collingwood comes out on top nearly everywhere. But everyone knows that. Records from the last ten years are interesting to dissect, have direct relevance, and are probably not as easy to immediately access. How many tables showing records just from 2002 or 2007 would be in existence? That's why this thread is kind of interesting.
Love these threads designed to show off a single period of success of an otherwise failed club who were moved on by the AFL
is fairly provocative. No need for it.
Of course, if you want to look at the records from 1897, Collingwood comes out on top nearly everywhere. But everyone knows that. Records from the last ten years are interesting to dissect, have direct relevance, and are probably not as easy to immediately access. How many tables showing records just from 2002 or 2007 would be in existence? That's why this thread is kind of interesting.
FYI. If you want any of this kind of information you are able to access it here:
http://afl.allthestats.com/?itm=111111
You can add any filter you want to create your custom table from/between any round/year/venue you can imagine.
27 woodens...there's a stat that will never be bettered by another team!!
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Cheers, thanks for that mate.
