Test New Zealand Tour of Bangladesh (2 Tests)

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Great win in tough conditions by NZ...Excellent partnership to finish it off...Phillips is definitely Player of the Series for me - 8 wickets & 181 runs @ 60...Not bad considering in was no guarantee to be selected in the starting XI.

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That partnership from Phillips and Santner made that win look a lot easier than it looked like being.

Phillips should be the Man of the Match and the Man of the Series, he was the leading run scorer and also took a fair few wickets as well.

He's booked his place in our test team now.
 
Great win in tough conditions by NZ...Excellent partnership to finish it off...Phillips is definitely Player of the Series for me - 8 wickets & 181 runs @ 60...Not bad considering in was no guarantee to be selected in the starting IX.

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Starting 9? Tough to win when you're two short on the field
 
Fair effort by Phillips and Santner to win this for NZ. Phillips should always be revered by Kiwis for single handlely winning them a test match. Saved their arses in both innings and even chimed in with a sneaky 3-for
 

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Southee not impressed with the pitch in the second test.


Hopefully a couple of green tops await the Bangers on their next visit to NZ.

Why?

Would be, as has been discussed ad nauseum on this forum, the biggest advantage NZ could possibly hand Bangladesh.

Green tops for teams with notably ordinary pace attacks only serve to narrow the gap between their attack, and the one they’re up against.

You have literally JUST SEEN what happens when a home team who boasts an advantage in one aspect of the game (bowling and playing spin) tries to accentuate that advantage too much and it bites them in the arse.

The smartest thing NZ can do is serve up 100 per cent normal NZ wickets and more likely than not they will account for them easily.
 
Why?

Would be, as has been discussed ad nauseum on this forum, the biggest advantage NZ could possibly hand Bangladesh.

Green tops for teams with notably ordinary pace attacks only serve to narrow the gap between their attack, and the one they’re up against.

You have literally JUST SEEN what happens when a home team who boasts an advantage in one aspect of the game (bowling and playing spin) tries to accentuate that advantage too much and it bites them in the arse.

The smartest thing NZ can do is serve up 100 per cent normal NZ wickets and more likely than not they will account for them easily.
I have literally JUST SEEN NZ win due to one bloke playing out of his skin. If there was a third test in the same place you'd be backing Bangladesh to win.

Most other countries are happy to use home advantage, so should we.
 
I have literally JUST SEEN NZ win due to one bloke playing out of his skin. If there was a third test in the same place you'd be backing Bangladesh to win.

Most other countries are happy to use home advantage, so should we.

If they served up another wicket like that one?

Nope. It would be another lottery where once more, a batsman who can bowl a bit in the infancy of his test career could roll a home team.

Bangladesh has a side that boasts a 1-in-20 chance maybe of jagging a win on a regulation NZ pitch.

Put them on an absolute raging green top and one of their ‘cartel’ of fairly average quicks has a day out and one of their ok but unexceptional batsmen strikes a lucky 80 off 100, and YOUR team who like everyone else struggles just as much on exceptionally green wickets is up against it.

It’s a dumb theory and simply narrows the gap and it’s been proven time and time again, including twice this year alone.
 
If they served up another wicket like that one?

Nope. It would be another lottery where once more, a batsman who can bowl a bit in the infancy of his test career could roll a home team.

Bangladesh has a side that boasts a 1-in-20 chance maybe of jagging a win on a regulation NZ pitch.

Put them on an absolute raging green top and one of their ‘cartel’ of fairly average quicks has a day out and one of their ok but unexceptional batsmen strikes a lucky 80 off 100, and YOUR team who like everyone else struggles just as much on exceptionally green wickets is up against it.

It’s a dumb theory and simply narrows the gap and it’s been proven time and time again, including twice this year alone.
Creating a home advantage is a dumb theory, alright then.
 
Creating a home advantage is a dumb theory, alright then.

You don’t need to create a home advantage when you’re at home.

You have already created it by playing at home. That’s why it’s a home advantage.

You’re in New Zealand mate. It’s not exactly sub-Saharan.
The pitches are already fairly green, they’re slow, they’re a bit grippy for the seam, the atmospheric conditions lend themselves to swing, then it flattens out, and generally the spinners don’t get too much of a look in. Your own attack has a great record there with the conditions just as they are, and your batsmen have generally thrived there in recent years too. With respect to Mitchell who has dug them out of some tricky situations scoreboard wise, Aside from Williamson though none of them have proven they’re worth a squirt of piss when it gets harder too much than ‘might do a bit early’.

Why on earth would you take the risk of making it stupidly hard to bat on, losing the toss and getting sent in on a billiard table and being shot out for 120 by a no name seamer from Bangladesh?

Again, it’s the same as an Indian curator trying to ‘create’ a home advantage for an Indian team against a SENA team.

They’ve already GOT the advantage!!!
It’s dry, unpredictable bounce and doesn’t help the quicks much and favours batsmen with supple wrists who wait for the ball: all things that suit India more than the visitors. You’ve got the home ground advantage, what are you needing to create?

You’ve got two spinners who are at least as good as if not better than Australia’s best, so logically you serve up a normal Indian pitch and expect them to deliver.

Then when you serve up a minefield all of a sudden it brings Australia’s attack into the game and wouldn’t you know it, India loses.

It’s not a coincidence.
 

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