Competitions PHANTOM DRAFT 2014 - Carlton Edition

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Cringle said:
Going to have to agree. 167cm isn't short. It's midget.
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People used to think football/soccer was going down the route where you needed to be tall and solid to succeed, then along came a bloke named Lionel Messi and all of a sudden height is longer an issue.
 
#48 Jackson Nelson

Tall midfielder who can play in and outside. Will probably start off half-back before working his way into the middle. Good-solid all round sort

Picking for depth for the pies at this point. They lost some midfield talent so giving them the next generation.

*at work this time, so have to be brief
 

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Blue and Silver said:
#48 Jackson Nelson

Tall midfielder who can play in and outside. Will probably start off half-back before working his way into the middle. Good-solid all round sort

Picking for depth for the pies at this point. They lost some midfield talent so giving them the next generation.

*at work this time, so have to be brief
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Noooooooooooooooooooooo! I was gonna select him! Good fit for the pies though
 
49. Hawthorn - Keenan Ramsey (SA – KPD/KPF)
Height: 193cm, Weight: 86kg
Recruited from: Port Adelaide

Took this write up of Chris25 - see this guy as a good defensive replacement for the aging Lake and Gibson.

Lets start with a background, because that's what will probably interest people the most. Some of you may have read the article, and Ramsey does indeed only have the one eye. He was diagnosed with retinal cancer as a two year old, and now has a glass eye. But you wouldn't know from watching him play, and the SA coach Brenton Phillips said he watched him play for a year without even knowing. And it's really not a weakness at all, as he has never played football with two eyes. So he doesn't know any different.

But back to football, Ramsey is a talented key position player and can play at either end of the ground. In the SANFL for Port Adelaide, he has played largely up forward. For his school, he has been running through the ruck. And for South Australia, he was of course the #1 tall down back. As always, we'll start with his SANFL form - because I haven't seen any of his school matches. Last year in the U18s, Ramsey finished with 16 goals from his 11 games but started the 2014 season in the Reserves and his strong frame has seen his continue that form. Over his first three matches, he was averaging 15 touches and 7 marks. In his fourth match, he was quieter but still had 6 tackles. And over a two week period, Ramsey had 11 shots on goal - although he only converted for 5 goals. Come the U18 Championships, and Ramsey moved into defence. Not just playing a role down back, but really taking charge and full credit to Brenton Phillips for going with Ramsey. I certainly didn't pick it.

One of the first things you notice with Ramsey is his size. Listed at 192/193cm, I wouldn't be surprised to see him hit that 195cm mark - which oddly seems to be the cutoff for some people regarding whether someone can be successful or not. But otherwise, he has a very strong build and has the frame that will allow for further growth. He just looks like a KPP. As a forward, he leads strongly and is good overhead. He tends to look better up around the CHF spot, as opposed to playing out of the goal square. Down back, I again like him around CHB more than one out at full back. He reads the play well, and has shown he can zone off to help out his teammates. But no matter where he plays, he has surprisingly good foot skills for someone his size and also tackles really well. That willingness to do the little things probably comes from his mindset that he needs to work harder than everyone else, to overcome the cards he has been dealt. It's a massive positive trait for a KPP.

In terms of weaknesses, there isn't anything major really. It's more just a case of how he develops. There are plenty of solid talls who either don't get drafted, or just don't make it at the top level for whatever reason. One thing that will probably see him drop down is a lack of real elite qualities, that separates him from the top group. He doesn't have the same speed, athleticism or pure dominance of other KPPs. It'll just be a matter of how he develops.

When it comes to his draft range, he's one of those hard ones to place - it's always hard to pick what clubs will do with talls. But he has shown similar to what Cameron Giles did in his draft year, and he went at #39 to Carlton. So anywhere around the third round is what I'm thinking at the moment. And ideally, you'd be looking for a similar development to that of Steven May from the Gold Coast.
 
50. Hawthorn - Matthew Hammelmann (Brisbane – KPF/KPD)
Height: 198cm, Weight: 88kg, DOB: 08/03/1996
Recruited from: Morningside

We were shocked that Brisbane didn't take Matthew as he was available as an academy selection. One of the larger KPF's available in this years draft, he is fantastic on the lead and knows where the goals are. See him as a good long term prospect in our forward line.

This is from Quigley:
He is an AIS member for this year and despite some injuries issues along the way has shown enough to whet people's appetites I think. Physically he has great size and is starting to fill out. His upper half is lagging a bit behind the lower half but by the time he is finished he will be a very solid unit. Athletically he has good pace and endurance but probably not in the elite for his size in either. Certainly I have no concern over his athletic ability and I would expect him to test in the top quarter of key positions across the board.

One area where he is absolutely elite is with the ball on the ground. I don't know if I have seen a junior player his size so good below the knees and his ability to pick it up and go is going to be a nice weapon in his arsenal going forward. Above his head his hands are good but not elite. He judges the ball very nicely in the air and takes a lot of marks. He seems to have overcome his reluctance to crash packs that he showed last year but his contested marking could still use some work. His hands are not the steel traps some are in contested marking situations. I see him as a CHF at AFL level and he has shown some really nice ability to get up the ground and link up with his marking. There have been several games where his opponents have just not been able to go with him.

His leading patterns are as good as anyone in this draft and he times his leads to dangerous spots exceptionally well. He seems to get separation easily and has a great feel for where and when to lead. He generates a lot of chances for himself.

His skills around the ground are very good for a KP and he identifies and hits his targets well. If he goes back you can rely on him to be solid coming out of defence. His goal kicking can be inconsistent and there are games where he struggles to get it between the big sticks. For the Champs he kicked 7 goals and 8 behinds across his three games and a lot of those behinds were from gettable shots.
 
With their Third Round Pick the West Coast Eagles select....

#51 Branden Abbott
WA (Mid/Def)
185cm 92kg


Overlooked in 2013 after spending the majority of his under 18 career as a defender Abbott has taken his game to a new level in 2014 by moving into the midfield at Claremont. The 190cm big bodied midfielder is the prototype current mid and West Coast could use a tall bodu through the midfield with their majorly short squad.

West Coast are glad to finally find a West Australian and can perhaps be said to overlook a few interstate prospects but it is hard to overlook home grown talent.

Look for Abbott to continue to improve as he has shown the ability to.

More write up to come when I get home
 
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If you get to 57 tonight you will have to wait until after 10 am if that's ok guys just thought I should tell you.:)
 
I currently don't have access to my computer and realistically probably won't be able to do a selection until tomorrow lunch time. Would be happy for someone else to make a selection in my place. Was aiming for an inside mid or a quality small mid/small forward (was hopping Caleb would fall .....)
 

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OK so with my selections to date I have gone with an all-round mid with class who can also win his own ball in Duggan and an outside mid with pace in Cavka so with my third pick I am going to go with more inside player in Maynard. While Maynard may never become an elite player (lets face it, this is pick #52 so that was always going to be unlikely) we will give the Tigers some grunt, a hard edge to protect their class midfielders and a good work horse.


Pick #52. Richmond. Brayden Maynard

Some info from the PD's

(Skippos's)
186 cm, 88 kg, 20/9/96
Range: Top 40
Style: Ryan O'Keefe
Comparison: Luke Tapscott

Maynard's greatest strength is his versatility. He's played back, forward and through the middle throughout his career and done all to a high standard. Already 88kg, Maynard brings a tough, physical brand of football to the table and not only does he have the power and strength but the aggression to use it with his tackling and body use around the stoppage a particular highlight. On the inside he's a good ball winner and an okay kick with it being neither penetrating or damaging although it has improved throughout the year. With all that said Maynard is aware of this and more often that not kicks with his limitations in mind.

When he plays back he's an effective winner of the ball at ground level with his determination and aggression able to win the first touch and begin the transition. He's also accountable and consistent with his discipline and concentration sound and his overhead marking very good. One on one he's likely to win most matchups with similarly sized players which assists him both forward and back. He's perhaps drifted a bit down the boards this season with his inability to really impose himself in the championships costing him. He needs to work on his endurance and perhaps try and become a more penetrating kick if he's to be a permanent defender though I think with time he could develop into a really effective midfielder capable of hurting the opposition both inside and out.

Evaluation of his prospects: His versatility should render him a player clubs would like to have on their list. While he's unlikely to ever be truly dominant, at worst he should be a high level state league player and handy depth.


(She who's name will never be mentioned on these boards)

Brayden Maynard is a slick utility type who does his best work off the packs with an ability to kick on either side of his body. The hard-nosed, balanced midfielder is somebody that is targeted by opposition teams to shut down, given his ability to quickly set up play and importantly stream forward to goal. He’s been utilised in an array of positions, ultimately looming as more of a forward in his early career. However, with increased endurance and running power, he has the potential to make the move into the midfield in the long term. Aside from his brilliant goal kicking, Maynard is an aerial specialist with strong hands in a contest, who also marks strongly around the ground. He was arguably the player of the finals series for Sandringham, with the contested side of his game dramatically increasing in the back end of the season.



ItsAllAboutMe
 
Yeah was a little surprised by the mixed review for Maynard in the PD's, which I assume means he has his strengths and his weaknesses. Sounds like he will at least be a good work horse, like Graham for us, but could also be a good inside mid too.
 
Pick 53- Josh Deluca, Melbourne Football Club.

Not being from Perth I don't know too much about Josh, but when I read his player ranking from this years gf I just thought I have to have him.. 21 touches in a senior grand final is huge for an 18 yo and should be able to slot into the round 1 team.

40. Josh Deluca – 8.5
The 18-year-old was the youngest man in the grand final but by the end of the day was one of the best on the ground as he became a premiership player.

The left-footed small forward started off by kicking Subiaco's first goal of the game and then ending up with 21 possessions, five clearances and without doubt he has a bright future either with Subiaco or in the AFL.

http://www.wafootball.com.au/news/7421/subiaco-grand-final-player-ratings


This from Paige Cardona

Josh Deluca-Cardillo

Position: Midfielder/forward
Height: 179 cm, Weight: 80 kg, DOB: 11/5/1996
Club: Subiaco
Projected draft range: 50-rookie
Plays like: Ben McGlynn

The dynamo from Subiaco, Josh Deluca-Cardillo is incredibly underrated and isn’t getting the hype in Victoria he so thoroughly deserves. The lightning quick wonder-kid is a line breaker and a somewhat of a barometer, sharing similar traits to both Lewis Taylor and Ben Glynn in his game. Deluca-Cardillo is the player whose hands you want the ball in. He attacks the ball ferociously, side steps through traffic and darts off, all in a flash. Unlike players of similar height, Deluca-Cardillo has them thoroughly covered in terms of weight. He is incredibly filled out and since playing a staring role in the Lions’ senior WAFL premiership in wet conditions, he stood out and made an impact on the big stage. Averaging 12.2 disposals, 2.6 marks and one goal per game, he is blessed with serious hurt factor and isn’t often defeated one-on-one. He missed the National Championships after straining a ligament in his knee, which is why he’s still unknown to man. After an interrupted season, he comes at a bargain price.
 
Fremantle

Pick 54 - Josh Glenn

This from Cardona:
Josh Glenn decided against nominating for the draft last year, citing the fact he simply was not ready, In 2014, Glenn is back bigger and better, garnering enough interest from AFL clubs to be invited to this year’s draft combine. The dedicated and hardworking small defender/midfielder is versatile enough to play a number of roles: however, he primarily excels across half back given both his defensive mindset and thumping kick. He plays quite a close checking role, but also loves to run and carry and kick long into attack. Glenn isn’t a stranger to pushing forward himself and kicking a long goal on the run, and has also shown an ability to win the contested ball. However, he is best used on the outside of packs or rebounding from defence, given his neat skill set and tidy efficiency by foot. He’s very much in the mould of a Matthew Suckling, albeit shorter, and is blessed with toughness, composure and good decision making. He averaged 17 disposals from 21 games in 2013 and took out the SANFL Rising Star award, being named in the best on six occasions in 2014, averaging 22 disposals per game.
 
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