..... Me, not so muchlooking forward to seeing the new squiggle this week!
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..... Me, not so muchlooking forward to seeing the new squiggle this week!
Poor West Coast. Last week they obliterate the team that this week knocks off the reigning premiers; meanwhile they beat a flag favorite at home... and still they can't get no respect.wow the squiggle loves west coast, great win for them today but i just don't see it.
Basically yes: the squiggle rates Hawthorn 1988 a little better than Geelong 2011.Final Siren is it fair to suggest, that according to Squiggles, the 1988 Hawthorn team was superior to the Geelong 2011 team?
http://maxbarry.com/squiggle/1988.html
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http://maxbarry.com/squiggle/2011.html
Geelong weren't really near that area of the Squiggle until their game against Collingwood, whereas Hawthorn of 1988 were in that area for more than half of the season. They really smashed teams that year and demolished Carlton in the GF.
Basically yes: the squiggle rates Hawthorn 1988 a little better than Geelong 2011.
1988 was a strong year, with only one team winning fewer than 7 games. In 2011, Brisbane, Port Adelaide, and Gold Coast could only manage 10 wins between them.
The 1988 wooden spooner, St Kilda, finished with a percentage of 82.1%, better than four 2011 teams.
In 1988, you needed 13 wins to make the finals (under a final 5 system); in 2011, three teams made it with fewer. Eighth spot required only 11.5 wins.
The '88 Hawks and '11 Cats both finished the home & away season in pretty much the same chart position, i.e. really high, and both with 19 wins. And they both had great finals series, with the Cats getting a lot of credit for beating Collingwood, a very good team. The Hawks only played two finals, but kept Carlton (3rd) to 45 points in the first, in a year the Blues averaged 106 points a game, winning by 21, and then destroying Melbourne (5th) by 96 points in the Grand Final, which set a new record at the time.
Poor West Coast. Last week they obliterate the team that this week knocks off the reigning premiers; meanwhile they beat a flag favorite at home... and still they can't get no respect.
What's the 'Sweet spot' for winning a flag?Some of the charts are pretty crazy, like that run in '87 when the Swans kicked 3 mammoth totals in consecutive weeks. They still have the 3rd highest AFL score and I think top 10 AFL winning margin. 2011 saw some absurd squiggle movements with Collingwood's massive win and keeping Port to nothing and then Geelong absolutely thrashing them in the last round of the season.
Would it be worth extending the premiership cup view to 30 years? I think it's a little misleading for the Squiggle to say that Geelong is the best team single team of all time when the Hawthorn team of '88 was arguably better and they dominated the 80s like North should have done in the 90s.
Looks like the tide has gone out with the Squiggles this week.
1985: Essendon charted in almost the same position as Geelong 2011
1986 & 1987: Hawthorn charted basically the same position
1988: Hawthorn biggest chart I could find
1989: Geelong - Um wtf? And Hawthorn. Ok, wow. How did Hawthorn win it that year? That chart, crazy stuff! Seriously, there's a round where Geelong goes from 62 defence to 88 defence in 1 game!!! Essendon beat West Coast by a ridiculous total, 160 to 18. Ahh how I long for the days when the opponents are so bad they can't even get a goal.
1990: If people think 2005 & 2012 are anomalies, they really ought to see the 1990 Collingwood team! It's almost 90 defence!
1992: Eagles almost the same as the Swans 2012
1993: Not a single club got near the sweet spot all year, like seriously no where near it, suggests a super-tight season
1994: Eagles won it being even more defensive than the Swans 2005, but no where near as crazy as Collingwood 1990!
I know our losses have only been small but considering where those teams who've beaten us sit (less Port, more Essendon and GWS) I would've expected us to have dropped back further towards the pack.Interesting how bunched the teams are (except for Hawthorn).
In the cluster, so North-East of Geelong 2008 is the ripe spot to be in contention.What's the 'Sweet spot' for winning a flag?
Squiggle has Carlton for 5 wins? Blow it up mate
Something I find cool about probability is how quickly unlikely events become likely if you get a few goes at it. There are 22 games in the regular season. If a team was so horrifically bad that they entered every single game as massive underdogs, 97% likely to lose (the squiggle's maximum), there's still a very solid chance they'll win at least one... 1 - (.97^22) = 49%.Squiggle has Carlton for 5 wins? Blow it up mate
Couldn't get the formula n! / ((n-r)! * r!) out quick enough to placate them eh?Not really related, but a similarly counter-intuitive example of probability is the Birthday Problem. If you have 23 people in a room, what are the odds at least two share the same birthday? It feels like the answer would be pretty low, when in fact it's 50%. When I was younger I almost got punched at a party because a dude had discovered that two people there shared the same birthday and he thought that was a miracle and I said it wasn't. IT WASN'T.
Couldn't get the formula n! / ((n-r)! * r!) out quick enough to placate them eh?
It feels like North are in one of those 'dead zones' that are out in the Pacific. We just seem to tool around in the same spot all season.
It seems like the Squiggle thinks we are mediocre.
So this season ends with Freo destroying WC by shooting an air tank wedged into their beak? All rejoice and we are awarded the cup.That West Coast symbol is still homing in on that Freo symbol. Every week its gets a little bit closer. Its a bit like watching Jaws.
Is good, well doneSo this season ends with Freo destroying WC by shooting an air tank wedged into their beak? All rejoice and we are awarded the cup.