Rough Hawk Down.
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Rd 12, 2011 against Geelong.
Made the 4, were knocked out by Collingwood in PF by 3 pts.
(corrected - stupid memory)
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Although I'm a tad worried look at the crap thrown at us in 14 and 15 and somehow we made it through
oh lord............. whyon earth did he wait so long? grrrrrr
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I guess this alleviates some of the stress I have about our younger kids not getting a crack and looking for opportunities elsewhere. Every cloud!
If TOB doesn't games this season I think it's over for him. Probably deserves 5-7 or so games to show us if he is serious about an AFL career. Sicily needs development also. It would not hurt give him 5-7 too. Granted we would need to restructure the fwd line so that neither of them were the primary targets. Perhaps it's being a little ambitious but i would not even mind throwing Burton or Hardwick in there for a crack. Something that occurred to me was that all the guys who are now the backbone of the squad (Hodge, Rough, Lewis, Birch, Rioli, Mitchell and previously Franklin) were blooded as young kids and developed in the seniors which at face value seems to have paid dividends for us. All the new wave have all had to develop in the reserves and we haven't seen the same development curve in them for the most part. It requires striking a delicate balance between fielding a team that can win and getting these kids on the park but I think that doing so can only be a good thing.
If TOB doesn't games this season I think it's over for him. Probably deserves 5-7 or so games to show us if he is serious about an AFL career. Sicily needs development also. It would not hurt give him 5-7 too. Granted we would need to restructure the fwd line so that neither of them were the primary targets. Perhaps it's being a little ambitious but i would not even mind throwing Burton or Hardwick in there for a crack. Something that occurred to me was that all the guys who are now the backbone of the squad (Hodge, Rough, Lewis, Birch, Rioli, Mitchell and previously Franklin) were blooded as young kids and developed in the seniors which at face value seems to have paid dividends for us. All the new wave have all had to develop in the reserves and we haven't seen the same development curve in them for the most part. It requires striking a delicate balance between fielding a team that can win and getting these kids on the park but I think that doing so can only be a good thing.
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Any reason why he isn't going in for surgery straight away?
"In the next few weeks" is what Fagan says
Surely every week counts to get him fixed, rehabbed, and match fit asap?
"In the next few weeks" is what Fagan says
Surely every week counts to get him fixed, rehabbed, and match fit asap?
If we do OK through the first 1/2 to 2/3 season, then what a great player to bring in. Massive opportunity here for a number of lesser lights, too. Schoenmakers has a massive opportunity here.
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Schoenmakers is the obvious replacement, he has the size and can at least bring the ball to ground inside 50. Hard to see him having a big impact if he's playing on the opposition's #1 defender every week, assuming they don't go to Gunston.
Losing Roughead makes Hale's retirement hurt even more, though Hale & Ceglar are at least competent inside 50. We have Sicily & TOB but both are too slightly built right now and are better suited to filling Gunston's role. They could throw Spangher forward but he'd be a pinch hitter. Talk of Burton or Tatupu filling in for Roughy this year are fanciful at best I think. There's always Jack Fitzpatrick.... but if we're relying on him be our gorilla forward I think we're in big trouble.
Its a big loss. We have some very difficult games in the first half of the year and if Gunston misses games we'll really be exposed. As others have said the silver lining is that Roughy should hopefully have more left in the tank at the business end of the year. This knee issue also helps explains why he had an underwhelming year last season.
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For the last few years I've considered Roughead as our most important player. In terms of his role and our ability to replace him. Huge loss.
I guess something had to give as we just won a 3-peat and we are favourites for a fourthorn......now it evens up the competition a little.
All of a sudden, Schoey and our forward resting ruck (BigBoy, Ceglar and/or Fitzpatrick) become so important.....
Well, we'll see how we go. But I do believe we'll be ok.
I guess something had to give as we just won a 3-peat and we are favourites for a fourthorn......now it evens up the competition a little.
All of a sudden, Schoey and our forward resting ruck (BigBoy, Ceglar and/or Fitzpatrick) become so important.....
Well, we'll see how we go. But I do believe we'll be ok.
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BB seems more damaging forward than Ceglar we may need him to spend more time there.
By the end of the year Shoe was crashing packs not Roughy so it comes down to matchups as you said.
We can't replace what he gave us in the middle and that may be where we hurt most early on.
This could be a bigger opportunity for Langford than a forward depending on how we go about lining up.
I don't see Spang as a forward option really, would rather see Sicily, TOB, Hodge, or Burgers played forward than Spang
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After which, with 2min to go Hodge had his head ripped off in our forward pocket.
White mongrel had lost the whistle, no free.
That's one that shouldn't have gotten away.
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Though not great news my initial thought that we can cover the loss of Roughy, who wasn't a power forward. Schoey can replace him in the forward line and we have plenty of time to establish a pecking order in our wannabe forwards (Sicily, Fitzpatrick, TOB, Shem). We just need to tweak our game plan to suit our skilful mobile forwards rather than bombing long. Provided we don't lose too many early games Roughy's late start to the season may be a blessing in disguise.Chances of the 'fourplay' just took a massive hit.
http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2016-01-31/roughead-to-miss-first-half-of-2016
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A leg here,an arm there......Franklinstein!
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Didn't Hodgey get a head high tackle in the goal square in the last bit (that wasn't paid?)
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I know. But we likely would have been thumped by the Cats. Major blessing in disguise. That said - them Cats sure do choke in GFs against us....
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Gibson was held off the ball by Cloke on the goal line which prevented him from being able to make a decent go of spoiling the incoming kick.
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Maybe they want him to strengthen certain muscles pre surgery to aid his recovery. Just a guess but wouldn't surprise me. He hasn't completely blown his knee out so they may approach it differently.
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Huge loss the big rough.
Hopefully though Sicily can take that next step this year, or maybe TOB
Schoey gets his chance to really put his stamp on his forward position, whilst Spang can fill a role in need so all is not lost.
Problem for us is not so much forward though, it's the run he provided through the middle.
Hopefully though Sicily can take that next step this year, or maybe TOB
Schoey gets his chance to really put his stamp on his forward position, whilst Spang can fill a role in need so all is not lost.
Problem for us is not so much forward though, it's the run he provided through the middle.
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Sicily would be my guess to replace him in the forward line. As stated I think we will miss him in the middle more than as a forward, which is kind of weird but shows how versatile he is. In round 4 against the Staints I'd like to see us give Shem a chance if he's done good at Box Hill (don't get me wrong I don't think the Staints will be a push over, they are looking the goods in my eyes developing well). Just to see if Shem can cope and if needed in big games could deliver so we have options.
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