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I'm always shocked to see supporters leave early when we're winning too. Maybe they're the same supporters?
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Autopsy Round 13 = Melbourne 66-62 Collingwood
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Agree with others that it was just one of those games. Melbourne brought really good pressure and stuck their tackles. We matched it for the most part and there were some really good passages of great contested footy with a finals like feel. I can’t recall a match where almost every one of our players aside from Moore and Quaynor had the fumbles and missed with handballs and kicks we’d normally nail. We turned it over in bad positions a lot giving them long periods inside their forward half and 50. Some of our handball chains just went one too many maybe.
Over the year so far we’ve been consistently the cleanest team I’ve seen so I’m treating it as an anomaly. It was also a game where we didn’t seem to have another slower gear. Kudos to Melbourne but we are top of the ladder, have learnt a lot given our injuries, the bye has come at an ideal time.
Over the year so far we’ve been consistently the cleanest team I’ve seen so I’m treating it as an anomaly. It was also a game where we didn’t seem to have another slower gear. Kudos to Melbourne but we are top of the ladder, have learnt a lot given our injuries, the bye has come at an ideal time.
We really need a back up to JDG in the midfield. If reef doesnt have the tank, they should train him up to play that role for short bursts.
And yeah, AJ is a lead mark player, not a pack crasher. He will look bad when mids get owned like today and we fail to move ball on transition. While we definately need mcstay and Cek as our talls, I cant really see why you would replace AJ with one of the smalls. Hes a clear 3rd tall imho.
And yeah, AJ is a lead mark player, not a pack crasher. He will look bad when mids get owned like today and we fail to move ball on transition. While we definately need mcstay and Cek as our talls, I cant really see why you would replace AJ with one of the smalls. Hes a clear 3rd tall imho.
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And not one single bounce of the ball went our way tonight.. did you notice that? I thought surely our luck with that will change in the final quarter. But it didn't.
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Regarding our midfield I reckon we lined up with both Adams and Mitchell in tandem at centre bounces too often. I’d prefer just one of them in there. Thought we could have used Pendles, Nick or even Lippa in there more.
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Absolutely. I was waiting for the luck to turn our way with the bounce of the ball but it just never did. Another reason I feel it was just one of those days.
everyone said that melbournes defence was so good, but i think our defence was even better today.. i think by finals, our backline will be settled and will be amazing
I find the biggest problem is kicking long down the wing. Only to have opposition rucks or talls mark it and rebound. Over and over and over and over. It's Buckley football and not good enough in September.
It's mind numbing frustrating football
AJ should be dropped because butchered the marks and opportunities he had. Cost us two goals. If you’re having an off day, you’d only pressure and tackle. He did nothing and there is never an excuse for that. He goes missing when the heat is on, that is not a player you carry into finals. For me he is a trade come years end.
In the inaugural King's Birthday clash at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, Melbourne outlasted Collingwood to hang on by 4 points. The Magpies got out of the blocks in the first 15 minutes with the first three goals, but gradually lost control of momentum and the remainder of the contest. Inexplicable ball use, inability to bring the ball down to ground in marking contests, and inability to outnumber the opposition at ground level played into the hands of the Demons, despite having significant difficulties converting goals, which allowed the Woods back in to make a game of it, with only an inadequate amount of time enabling the Dees to shut the game down and take home the points.
Collingwood won their statistical categories through disposals by +12 (365 - 353), +22 for handballs (160 - 138), uncontested possessions had a margin of +21 (235 - 214), while centre clearances were up by +3 (10 - 7), and tackles were won by +8 (73 - 65). Melbourne won their key statistical indicators from sources such as kicks by +10 (215 - 205), contested possessions had an advantage of +19 (139 - 120), hit-outs were won by +21 (46 - 25), clearances had a margin of +4 (33 - 29), and +7 for stoppage clearances (26 - 19). The Demons were -9 from turnovers (71 - 80), where they made the least amount of errors and won intercept possessions by +9 (80 - 71) , which translated into them winning the intercept marks count by +9 (80 - 71), while gaining the Tackles Inside 50 stat by +13 (17 - 4). Marks had a differential of +5 (99 - 94), uncontested marks were won by +3 (88 - 85), contested marks were gained by +2 (11 - 9), +8 for Marks Inside 50 (15 - 7), and Inside 50s were won by +10 (59 - 49).
Tom Mitchell (30 disposals @ 80%, 281 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 19 handballs, 3 marks, 10 tackles, 5 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) got his hands dirty by winning the contested ball regularly and tackled with endeavour and effort.
Jack Crisp (28 disposals @ 71%, 481 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 22 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 15 handballs, 5 marks, 11 tackles, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 7 Inside 50s & 1 goal) looked threatening whenever he ran forward to take a mark or receive a handpass. His ball use going inside 50 did not favour Collingwood's forwards very often, as Crisp's long bombs were picked off by Melbourne defenders. Crisp did tackle well, and roved smartly to snap an excellent goal through heavy traffic in the opening term.
Taylor Adams (27 disposals @ 67%, 324 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 16 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 14 handballs, 4 marks, 8 tackles, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 4 Inside 50s) competed hard and strongly in each contest, with contested possessions and tackling allowing his team to score or neutralise opposing threats.
Scott Pendlebury (26 disposals @ 69%, 359 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 12 handballs, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 6 clearances, 3 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 6 Rebound 50s) had an uncharacteristic game filled with skill errors and poor execution under pressure. Pendlebury was one of the only few players that won clearances for his team, and worked hard on both sides of the ball to distribute territory from defence or across half forward, which was where the ball movement continually broke down.
Will Hoskin-Elliott (19 disposals @ 58%, 332 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 4 score involvements & 2 Inside 50s) was serviceable on the wing without delivering impressive results. Hoskin-Elliott will feel as though he let the team down with his behind during the last quarter, although he wasn't alone amongst his mates.
Darcy Cameron (17 disposals @ 76%, 171 metres gained, 13 hit-outs, 7 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 10 handballs, 8 marks, 3 contested marks, 5 tackles, 3 score involvements, 3 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances & 4 Rebound 50s) lowered his colours against Gawn and Grundy, despite winning his fair share of hit-outs, marks and possessions around the ground. Cameron did not look like taking marks across half-back from kick-ins at any stage and did not bring the ball down to ground for Collingwood's runners to commence transition plays into forward entries and opportunities for Collingwood's forwards to score goals.
Josh Daicos (17 disposals @ 65%, 326 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 3 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) was lively early, before drifting out of the game as it progressed. Lachie Hunter overshadowed Josh Daicos as the most influential winger on the day.
Nick Daicos (27 disposals @ 82%, 315 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 14 handballs, 6 tackles, 2 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) had his impact and influence behind the ball nullified to the point where he started forward in the last quarter to turn the game back in his team's favour, which Nick was able to do by snapping a goal that set the game up for a grandstand finish.
Brayden Maynard (25 disposals @ 76%, 569 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 17 kicks, 8 handballs, 8 marks, 4 tackles, 4 score involvements, 5 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) offered stability with intercept marking, and looked to kick long to contests, which was to the team's detriment as many kicks weren't retained in Collingwood's front half to take marks or kick goals.
John Noble (20 disposals @ 75%, 455 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 7 handballs, 6 marks, 2 tackles & 5 Rebound 50s) found it extremely challenging to maintain possession under fierce pressure, but he managed well under the circumstances, apart from running too far to concede a shot at goal during the final term, which was a behind.
Isaac Quaynor (16 disposals @ 75%, 373 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 5 handballs, 8 marks, 5 tackles & 5 Rebound 50s) was superb in a defence that was under siege by holding his marks, laying important tackles, and distributed his disposals out of defence effectively.
Darcy Moore (13 disposals @ 92%, 158 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 5 handballs, 8 marks, 3 contested marks & 5 Rebound 50s) attacked each marking contest with effort and intent to keep his team alive when the Demons were dominating, despite Bayley Fritsch booting three goals on him.
Nathan Murphy (12 disposals @ 75%, 193 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 6 marks, 2 tackles & 2 score involvements) continued to take marks without fear, and kicked within his limitations to a free teammate most of the time.
Billy Frampton (10 disposals @ 80%, 114 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 4 handballs, 7 marks, 2 tackles, 5 score involvements & 2 Rebound 50s) contributed with his ability to mark frequently behind the ball and dispose of the ball within his repertoire, much like Nathan Murphy.
Patrick Lipinski (15 disposals @ 73%, 243 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 9 handballs, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 2 goals) had an impact in his first game of the 2023 season to be Collingwood's most damaging forward when many around him were struggling.
Harvey Harrison (12 disposals @ 100%, 4 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 3 kicks, 9 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 1 goal) had a lively start, like several of his teammates, before supply meant he was not able to impact the scoreboard any further after quarter time.
Beau McCreery (10 disposals @ 80%, 273 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 7 kicks, 3 handballs, 3 marks, 5 tackles, 1 goal assist, 2 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) struggled with ball use going forward, but kept up the tackling work and soccered through a vital goal during the third term on the goal line.
Bobby Hill (9 disposals @ 78%, 175 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 3 handballs, 3 marks, 2 goal assists, 5 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 1 goal) started slowly, before contributing in moments during the remaining three quarters.
Mason Cox (8 disposals @ 88%, 194 metres gained, 12 hit-outs, 3 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 3 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) competed to the best of his ability in the ruck, while impacting the scoreboard where he kicked a goal against the run of play.
Brody Mihocek (8 disposals @ 38%, 290 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 7 kicks, 3 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 5 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was particularly wasteful in front of goal after a string of accurate performances this season. Missed a golden opportunity late in the game, before slotting his only goal late in the same quarter which gave the team a pulse, instead of consolation.
Collingwood's next game will be against Adelaide on June 25 at the MCG. The Magpies will look at improving their team at selection heading into this game, while embarking on a quest to return to their best after the bye. Adelaide will have their tail up after Taylor Walker kicked 10 goals against West Coast during the weekend. The primary focus for the Woods is to win the contested ball and improve their foot skills to allow the forwards to take marks and convert goals. Do those two aspects well for longer and it will go a long way to defeating the Crows.
Collingwood won their statistical categories through disposals by +12 (365 - 353), +22 for handballs (160 - 138), uncontested possessions had a margin of +21 (235 - 214), while centre clearances were up by +3 (10 - 7), and tackles were won by +8 (73 - 65). Melbourne won their key statistical indicators from sources such as kicks by +10 (215 - 205), contested possessions had an advantage of +19 (139 - 120), hit-outs were won by +21 (46 - 25), clearances had a margin of +4 (33 - 29), and +7 for stoppage clearances (26 - 19). The Demons were -9 from turnovers (71 - 80), where they made the least amount of errors and won intercept possessions by +9 (80 - 71) , which translated into them winning the intercept marks count by +9 (80 - 71), while gaining the Tackles Inside 50 stat by +13 (17 - 4). Marks had a differential of +5 (99 - 94), uncontested marks were won by +3 (88 - 85), contested marks were gained by +2 (11 - 9), +8 for Marks Inside 50 (15 - 7), and Inside 50s were won by +10 (59 - 49).
Tom Mitchell (30 disposals @ 80%, 281 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 19 handballs, 3 marks, 10 tackles, 5 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) got his hands dirty by winning the contested ball regularly and tackled with endeavour and effort.
Jack Crisp (28 disposals @ 71%, 481 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 22 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 15 handballs, 5 marks, 11 tackles, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 7 Inside 50s & 1 goal) looked threatening whenever he ran forward to take a mark or receive a handpass. His ball use going inside 50 did not favour Collingwood's forwards very often, as Crisp's long bombs were picked off by Melbourne defenders. Crisp did tackle well, and roved smartly to snap an excellent goal through heavy traffic in the opening term.
Taylor Adams (27 disposals @ 67%, 324 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 16 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 14 handballs, 4 marks, 8 tackles, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 4 Inside 50s) competed hard and strongly in each contest, with contested possessions and tackling allowing his team to score or neutralise opposing threats.
Scott Pendlebury (26 disposals @ 69%, 359 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 12 handballs, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 6 clearances, 3 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 6 Rebound 50s) had an uncharacteristic game filled with skill errors and poor execution under pressure. Pendlebury was one of the only few players that won clearances for his team, and worked hard on both sides of the ball to distribute territory from defence or across half forward, which was where the ball movement continually broke down.
Will Hoskin-Elliott (19 disposals @ 58%, 332 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 4 score involvements & 2 Inside 50s) was serviceable on the wing without delivering impressive results. Hoskin-Elliott will feel as though he let the team down with his behind during the last quarter, although he wasn't alone amongst his mates.
Darcy Cameron (17 disposals @ 76%, 171 metres gained, 13 hit-outs, 7 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 10 handballs, 8 marks, 3 contested marks, 5 tackles, 3 score involvements, 3 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances & 4 Rebound 50s) lowered his colours against Gawn and Grundy, despite winning his fair share of hit-outs, marks and possessions around the ground. Cameron did not look like taking marks across half-back from kick-ins at any stage and did not bring the ball down to ground for Collingwood's runners to commence transition plays into forward entries and opportunities for Collingwood's forwards to score goals.
Josh Daicos (17 disposals @ 65%, 326 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 3 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) was lively early, before drifting out of the game as it progressed. Lachie Hunter overshadowed Josh Daicos as the most influential winger on the day.
Nick Daicos (27 disposals @ 82%, 315 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 14 handballs, 6 tackles, 2 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) had his impact and influence behind the ball nullified to the point where he started forward in the last quarter to turn the game back in his team's favour, which Nick was able to do by snapping a goal that set the game up for a grandstand finish.
Brayden Maynard (25 disposals @ 76%, 569 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 17 kicks, 8 handballs, 8 marks, 4 tackles, 4 score involvements, 5 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) offered stability with intercept marking, and looked to kick long to contests, which was to the team's detriment as many kicks weren't retained in Collingwood's front half to take marks or kick goals.
John Noble (20 disposals @ 75%, 455 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 7 handballs, 6 marks, 2 tackles & 5 Rebound 50s) found it extremely challenging to maintain possession under fierce pressure, but he managed well under the circumstances, apart from running too far to concede a shot at goal during the final term, which was a behind.
Isaac Quaynor (16 disposals @ 75%, 373 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 5 handballs, 8 marks, 5 tackles & 5 Rebound 50s) was superb in a defence that was under siege by holding his marks, laying important tackles, and distributed his disposals out of defence effectively.
Darcy Moore (13 disposals @ 92%, 158 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 5 handballs, 8 marks, 3 contested marks & 5 Rebound 50s) attacked each marking contest with effort and intent to keep his team alive when the Demons were dominating, despite Bayley Fritsch booting three goals on him.
Nathan Murphy (12 disposals @ 75%, 193 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 6 marks, 2 tackles & 2 score involvements) continued to take marks without fear, and kicked within his limitations to a free teammate most of the time.
Billy Frampton (10 disposals @ 80%, 114 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 4 handballs, 7 marks, 2 tackles, 5 score involvements & 2 Rebound 50s) contributed with his ability to mark frequently behind the ball and dispose of the ball within his repertoire, much like Nathan Murphy.
Patrick Lipinski (15 disposals @ 73%, 243 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 9 handballs, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 2 goals) had an impact in his first game of the 2023 season to be Collingwood's most damaging forward when many around him were struggling.
Harvey Harrison (12 disposals @ 100%, 4 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 3 kicks, 9 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 1 goal) had a lively start, like several of his teammates, before supply meant he was not able to impact the scoreboard any further after quarter time.
Beau McCreery (10 disposals @ 80%, 273 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 7 kicks, 3 handballs, 3 marks, 5 tackles, 1 goal assist, 2 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) struggled with ball use going forward, but kept up the tackling work and soccered through a vital goal during the third term on the goal line.
Bobby Hill (9 disposals @ 78%, 175 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 3 handballs, 3 marks, 2 goal assists, 5 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 1 goal) started slowly, before contributing in moments during the remaining three quarters.
Mason Cox (8 disposals @ 88%, 194 metres gained, 12 hit-outs, 3 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 3 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) competed to the best of his ability in the ruck, while impacting the scoreboard where he kicked a goal against the run of play.
Brody Mihocek (8 disposals @ 38%, 290 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 7 kicks, 3 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 5 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was particularly wasteful in front of goal after a string of accurate performances this season. Missed a golden opportunity late in the game, before slotting his only goal late in the same quarter which gave the team a pulse, instead of consolation.
Collingwood's next game will be against Adelaide on June 25 at the MCG. The Magpies will look at improving their team at selection heading into this game, while embarking on a quest to return to their best after the bye. Adelaide will have their tail up after Taylor Walker kicked 10 goals against West Coast during the weekend. The primary focus for the Woods is to win the contested ball and improve their foot skills to allow the forwards to take marks and convert goals. Do those two aspects well for longer and it will go a long way to defeating the Crows.
that will be coached out of him in time i rekn
but no one can coach what he brings
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It felt like you struggled to get the game on your terms after the first 15 minutes, did you feel the same?
Did you think you might win it right at the end?
The distribution going inside 50 was lacking.
Can you talk through reports of illness going through the club leading up to the game and the impact it had on your team?
Did it impact the lack of ability to run out the game?
Was Jack Ginnivan being 'managed'?
How do you think you guys and the fans handled the Brodie Grundy match up?
Darcy Moore hurt his ankle? Is he okay?
What did it mean to you the whole occasion around Neale Daniher and the guard of honour?
How do you walk away from this game? Was this a loss that was coming, or do you look at the contest itself?
How do you handle the bye? A few days off?
Your forwards struggled. How much of that was the way the ball came in and how much of it was the contest?
Is McStay available for the Adelaide match after the bye?
It felt like you struggled to get the game on your terms after the first 15 minutes, did you feel the same?
Did you think you might win it right at the end?
The distribution going inside 50 was lacking.
Can you talk through reports of illness going through the club leading up to the game and the impact it had on your team?
Did it impact the lack of ability to run out the game?
Was Jack Ginnivan being 'managed'?
How do you think you guys and the fans handled the Brodie Grundy match up?
Darcy Moore hurt his ankle? Is he okay?
What did it mean to you the whole occasion around Neale Daniher and the guard of honour?
How do you walk away from this game? Was this a loss that was coming, or do you look at the contest itself?
How do you handle the bye? A few days off?
Your forwards struggled. How much of that was the way the ball came in and how much of it was the contest?
Is McStay available for the Adelaide match after the bye?
Both Brisbane and Melbourne applied very similar tactics to beat us.
It's better we learn now (vs finals time) how to work through that type of pressure and structure from the top sides.
It's better we learn now (vs finals time) how to work through that type of pressure and structure from the top sides.
I know most pie fans are upset that we lost but you have off days it happens in footy. Like last year when we lost to the eagles in Melbourne and got thumped by the dogs a week later it happens.
But if you told me that at the start of the year we would be 11-2 with 135.1% I and every Collingwood supporter in Australia would take that. In fact if we had won the game it would have been and injustice as Melbourne deserved the win and were the better side for 3 qtrs. Our next game against the crows will tell us more about this playing group in regards to how they react to losses. With the injuries we have had this year I think we are doing well!
Also even though we played poorly today the guys still tried there guts out even though I have no doubt that some players were still affected by a head cold or flu like symptoms that’s was reported to have gone through the club when they got back frol
Perth.
Anyway go pies all we need is a top 4 finish to have a crack of a premiership which we are 3 games clear of 4th.
But if you told me that at the start of the year we would be 11-2 with 135.1% I and every Collingwood supporter in Australia would take that. In fact if we had won the game it would have been and injustice as Melbourne deserved the win and were the better side for 3 qtrs. Our next game against the crows will tell us more about this playing group in regards to how they react to losses. With the injuries we have had this year I think we are doing well!
Also even though we played poorly today the guys still tried there guts out even though I have no doubt that some players were still affected by a head cold or flu like symptoms that’s was reported to have gone through the club when they got back frol
Perth.
Anyway go pies all we need is a top 4 finish to have a crack of a premiership which we are 3 games clear of 4th.
Noble was all right. Pendlebury made so many largely unforced skill errors, and just swanned about while Noble was always testing the waters and on the move. Part of the reason he was susceptible to pressure is because so was everyone around him.
Credit to the boys for getting as close as they did. Melbourne shut down our exit out of defence very well and I haven’t seen us hack kick it out so badly for ages. It was camped down their end for most of the day. Killed us around stoppages as well. Fumbly, off paced, I haven’t seen us play so poorly for months.
Time to reset and get some quality back for the 2nd half of the year. We’re in a good spot.
Time to reset and get some quality back for the 2nd half of the year. We’re in a good spot.
Obviously not but fact is we lost both games to better game plans on the day. Id rather fix it now than come finals time. You're comment implies i would rather lose the games which is ridiculous. The fact is we did lose the games so we learn and move forward.
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Noble isn't going anywhere.
May absolutely killed us, I would hope McStay/Checkers plays a more defensive role on him next time we meet.
Everyone knows Melbourne play best footy when teams are bombing it in.
Credit to them they allowed no run and carry from us.
Doesn't surprise me a performance like this happened, the players are only human, last thing you want is an injury just before the bye plus the flu/Covid going through the club.
Also last point people calling for Ginni/Kruger to come in and would have made a difference, like come on, Kruger has never done anything at AFL level and Ginni as much as I love him has been awful defensively, he would have been a bigger liability this week with the Melbourne backs.
DeGoey is our most important player after today.
May absolutely killed us, I would hope McStay/Checkers plays a more defensive role on him next time we meet.
Everyone knows Melbourne play best footy when teams are bombing it in.
Credit to them they allowed no run and carry from us.
Doesn't surprise me a performance like this happened, the players are only human, last thing you want is an injury just before the bye plus the flu/Covid going through the club.
Also last point people calling for Ginni/Kruger to come in and would have made a difference, like come on, Kruger has never done anything at AFL level and Ginni as much as I love him has been awful defensively, he would have been a bigger liability this week with the Melbourne backs.
DeGoey is our most important player after today.
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Pies hopefully should be all over Parish because we don't have any kids smashing the door down due to terrible drafting the past 5 years.
If you can get Parish for just salary and keep your picks it's a huge win.
That’s was the point I was making. He MAY not be in the best 22 with a full list. When we have to fit Sidebottom, De Goey, McStay, Howe, Elliot…something has to give. You can only play 22 plus a sub. It’s something people on here seem to ignore.
I’m a glutton for punishment and watching the replay this morning. It’s always good to watch when you’ve actually been at the game. Also watching replays anyway when you k ow the result. See it a little more accurately than in the moment.
Cox is our best ruckman.
Cameron is then competing with McStay and Krueger for a spot in the team.
Our mid size and small forwards who are a vital cog in chaos footy need to improve. The mix isn't right. We got smashed at ground level.
Port power switched DBJ from defence to attack to improve their forward pressure. We could look at doing something similar? One from left field might be Maynard. At least May would know he is in a genuine contest every minute he is on the field.
The Melbourne defenders were under very little pressure when exiting the ball from our forward line.
To me that's the easiest way for a vfl player to get into our senior team. Be that player who brings manic pressure. You will then get a game as the spot in the team is there. Could Noble be that player? He certainly plays with enough desperation.
I don't watch enough VFL to know if Josh Richards is that style of player? Any other players that bring the manic pressure?
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Cameron is then competing with McStay and Krueger for a spot in the team.
Our mid size and small forwards who are a vital cog in chaos footy need to improve. The mix isn't right. We got smashed at ground level.
Port power switched DBJ from defence to attack to improve their forward pressure. We could look at doing something similar? One from left field might be Maynard. At least May would know he is in a genuine contest every minute he is on the field.
The Melbourne defenders were under very little pressure when exiting the ball from our forward line.
To me that's the easiest way for a vfl player to get into our senior team. Be that player who brings manic pressure. You will then get a game as the spot in the team is there. Could Noble be that player? He certainly plays with enough desperation.
I don't watch enough VFL to know if Josh Richards is that style of player? Any other players that bring the manic pressure?
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