West Coast, North Melbourne and Hawthorn. The rush to rebuild.

[Cleric]

With Tasmania coming in a few years time, these three teams need to have their rebuilds done in the next couple of years otherwise they could be screwed for the next decade.
These are some serious times ahead, and maybe the AFL might need to give some concessions if any of these teams are still in trouble before Tassie comes in.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Tassie isn't coming in until 2028. Drafts wont start to be seriously compromised until 2026 at the earliest.

Eagles commenced their rebuild last year. North in 2017 (that's a worry). Hawks probably 2021. All clubs have plenty of time. 2-3 down the bottom is usually enough for the strong clubs (or they avoid it altogether). They all have their concerns, but Tasmania isn't one of them.

I'd be far more worried about Tassie if I was a club who has finished their rebuild/been rebuilding already for years yet is still hanging around the middle of the ladder (Carlton, Freo, St Kilda, Essendon). They obviously have time too for success before 2026 (much more than the 3 you mentioned as it stands right now), but a couple of them are probably bottoming out towards the end of the decade after missing out again. They would be the ones truly screwed.

 

[StonesThrow]

With Tasmania coming in a few years time, these three teams need to have their rebuilds done in the next couple of years otherwise they could be screwed for the next decade.
These are some serious times ahead, and maybe the AFL might need to give some concessions if any of these teams are still in trouble before Tassie comes in.

Can you provide some info on what happened to rebuilding teams when GC and gws came in?

 

[juss]

Do we know what the draft concessions will be for the Tassie team?

 

[Big_Birdy]

Do we know what the draft concessions will be for the Tassie team?

I don't think so. But given the Suns have never made finals and GWS haven't won a flag, I'd expect the AFL in their wisdom to make them even more generous this time around.

What would be most beneficial for Tassie would be salary cap concessions, and hefty bonuses for draftees who remain at the club. Unsure if those are in the works.

 

[eagleskickass]

Teams rebuilding now will be fine, if they get it right. It's teams that drop in the next few years who may be most impacted.

 

[ioppolo]

Can you provide some info on what happened to rebuilding teams when GC and gws came in?

Well West Coast were wooden spooners in 2010 but only had pick 4 thanks to Gold Coast. It only turned out to be Andrew Gaff. We also picked up Darling (26) and Lycett (29) in that draft.

 

[Lia]

All three are rebuilding at the right time, although in our case it wasn't necessarily by design. We will be bad for a few years, it is what it is. Some kids from the last two drafts look ok already, although injuries have stuffed it a bit.

 

[RonnieRaven]

Tassie isn't coming in until 2028. Drafts wont start to be seriously compromised until 2026 at the earliest.

Eagles commenced their rebuild last year. North in 2017 (that's a worry). Hawks probably 2021. All clubs have plenty of time. 2-3 down the bottom is usually enough for the strong clubs (or they avoid it altogether). They all have their concerns, but Tasmania isn't one of them.

I'd be far more worried about Tassie if I was a club who has finished their rebuild/been rebuilding already for years yet is still hanging around the middle of the ladder (Carlton, Freo, St Kilda, Essendon). They obviously have time too for success before 2026 (much more than the 3 you mentioned as it stands right now), but a couple of them are probably bottoming out towards the end of the decade after missing out again. They would be the ones truly screwed.

It won’t be a detriment to freo it actually might help us prolong being competitive
Say Tassie wipe out the 26-28 draft
Freos list in 28 will still be fine
Freo list ages for the 2028 season off the top of my head so can’t guarantee 100% accuracy

Tall fwds
Jackson 27
Amiss 25
Treacy 26

Midfield
Darcy 30
Brodie 30
AB 28
Serong 27
Johnson 25
Erasmus 25

Defenders
Chapman 26
Clark 28
Young 27
Walker 26
Cox 30

Others
Freddy 27
Odriscol 26
Sturt 28
Shultz 30
Switta 31
Ryan 31

Unlike blues who had 16 of 23 25+ in rd 9 the reason why we are mid table is because we are young an inconsistent.
Freo had 3 rising star noms and another 6 players in the 22u22 squad last year then you add amiss Johnson and Erasmus from the 2021 draft class.
Tigers key pillars for their 2017-2020 run were drafted 2006-2009
Freos whole team built 2016-2021
Our peak will be 2025-2028
The perfect time to have no interest in the draft!

 

[Toump Ass]

Why do we need draft concessions? They should just recruit everyone from the state league.
It's not like they need to be successful to get supporters, the whole state is behind them already.

 

[1990crow]

Teams rebuilding now will be fine, if they get it right. It's teams that drop in the next few years who may be most impacted.

It's why the AFL ticked off giving pick 7 to Cats for taking a gold coast player.
Geelong will be down in that period and the AFL wanted to compensate them now outside the rules.

 

[Engimal v3]

I'd throw Adelaide in that list too

 

[1990crow]

I'd throw Adelaide in that list too

Still crying over losing the other thread?

 

[Engimal v3]

Still crying over losing the other thread?

What?

 

[Engimal v3]

Teams rebuilding now will be fine, if they get it right. It's teams that drop in the next few years who may be most impacted.

Agreed. The clubs at positions 6-12 right now without the potential for a flag tilt are the ones in trouble.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

The race for Harley Reid is gathering momentum

West Coast likely favourites after next weekend

 

[sydney_gws]

Can you provide some info on what happened to rebuilding teams when GC and gws came in?

Damien Hardwick used to complain ( around 2011 to 2016) loudly about them affecting the Richmond rebuild.
Port where very bad 2011 to 2012, but got Wingard and Wines in compromised drafts.
But they might have got Jeremy Cameron ( or Jon Patton) if GWS didn't come in when they did

 

[sydney_gws]

Agreed. The clubs at positions 6-12 right now without the potential for a flag tilt are the ones in trouble.

I don't think too much trouble. It is much less of an impact only 1 team coming in rather than 2.

 

[RonnieRaven]

Damien Hardwick used to complain ( around 2011 to 2016) loudly about them affecting the Richmond rebuild.
Port where very bad 2011 to 2012, but got Wingard and Wines in compromised drafts.
But they might have got Jeremy Cameron ( or Jon Patton) if GWS didn't come in when they did

It actually helped tiges in the long run
They drafted their core before 2010 then pilfered high talent from the suns once developed.
Their 2017-2020 success was sustained because suns and giants sucked most of the talent from other clubs that should of been peaking during the 2017-2020

 

[Purple Suit]

Tassie isn't coming in until 2028. Drafts wont start to be seriously compromised until 2026 at the earliest.

Eagles commenced their rebuild last year. North in 2017 (that's a worry). Hawks probably 2021. All clubs have plenty of time. 2-3 down the bottom is usually enough for the strong clubs (or they avoid it altogether). They all have their concerns, but Tasmania isn't one of them.

I'd be far more worried about Tassie if I was a club who has finished their rebuild/been rebuilding already for years yet is still hanging around the middle of the ladder (Carlton, Freo, St Kilda, Essendon). They obviously have time too for success before 2026 (much more than the 3 you mentioned as it stands right now), but a couple of them are probably bottoming out towards the end of the decade after missing out again. They would be the ones truly screwed.

WC are one draft in and need an entire list rebuild, not just a few draft top up like previous seasons. Finals before 2026 would be a miracle and the new Tassie team might be the difference between a decent tilt or a few finals and bust. They also need to have a coup at board level and back room cleanout before it really begins. That is going to add a few extra years to the pain.

Richmond + Geelong (Maybe this time) seem to be the biggest fallers in the next few years and will be right in the middle of the Tassie team drain on talent.

 

[JackOutback]

As has been pointed out, these three teams may have timed their rebuilds perfectly (well, North have timed it by constantly extending it). The danger will be teams that decide next year that they need to start a rebuild as they may be locked out of the highest draft picks just when they need them the most.

 

[sydney_gws]

Collingwood might be affected.They get such a good contribution from Pendelbury, Sidebottom.
They will be hard to replace.
Just imagine if pies hadn't traded out pick 2.
They could have trade 2 for 6 , 2022r1
Then 6 for 12, 2022r1. Then 12 for 17, 2022r1.
That's 3 2022r1 picks. Trade 17 for 30,31,32 to pay for daicos.

 

[Cleric]

Tassie isn't coming in until 2028. Drafts wont start to be seriously compromised until 2026 at the earliest.

Eagles commenced their rebuild last year. North in 2017 (that's a worry). Hawks probably 2021. All clubs have plenty of time. 2-3 down the bottom is usually enough for the strong clubs (or they avoid it altogether). They all have their concerns, but Tasmania isn't one of them.

I'd be far more worried about Tassie if I was a club who has finished their rebuild/been rebuilding already for years yet is still hanging around the middle of the ladder (Carlton, Freo, St Kilda, Essendon). They obviously have time too for success before 2026 (much more than the 3 you mentioned as it stands right now), but a couple of them are probably bottoming out towards the end of the decade after missing out again. They would be the ones truly screwed.

It's a little more of a worry than that.
Sure, if a club has its house in order, and has some really good picks, they can get the majority of their rebuild done in maybe three drafts.
Adelaide has had a pretty quick rebuild, but as well as the draft picks we also picked up two ultra high level talents in Dawson and Rankine. Take those two out of our side and we arnt in the position we are now, nowhere near it. So it's not just the picks.
For North and Hawthorn, the chances they pick up a couple of players of that level isn't a given. West Coast have the go home factor to attract ex WA boys, as Adelaide did.

So those teams have 2023, 2024 and 2025 to make sure they absolutely nail the draft. If they find themselves in a similar position to where they are now, they could be looking at another 5 years trying to rebuild.

Make no bones about it, the draft is going to get smashed by Tassie.
On top of that, they will be given high picks to use as trade bait for established players. The chances that those picks will be going to North, West Coast or Hawthorn is slim.
Then you have father sons and academy kids out of the pool as well.

 

[Cleric]

I'd throw Adelaide in that list too

Nah, Adelaide has alot to work with. On top of the current 22, we have another four or five really talented kids that can come in as well.
On top of that we can attract ex SA kids easier than North for instance can attracts Vic kids.

 

[Cleric]

All three are rebuilding at the right time, although in our case it wasn't necessarily by design. We will be bad for a few years, it is what it is. Some kids from the last two drafts look ok already, although injuries have stuffed it a bit.

WC also has the ability to bring home good WA talent.