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Talking about what "we" have done is usually the preserve of the would be right on hipster types
hasbara again? And yet I don't find anything balanced, or bi-partisan in your approach.
Don't forget HtB
I don't think anyone considers them anything other than unreconstructed knuckle scraping Klan folk.
Be affronted.
That has much analytic validity as screaming hasbara with one eye closed
Oh please.
Aside from all the manufactured indignation. My point stands.
If you are not regularly accused of something, what is your experience to complain about then?
So let's all Google Israeli - Rhodesia relations and see what we might find that Hawkforce neglected to mention. Took all of 15 seconds to uncover that Israel sold arms to the white-minority government of Rhodesia...
So by your "logic" the government of Israel were white racist supremacists..
We should not have been surprised by your post. Playing the race card is normal behaviour against any criticism of Zionism or the Israeli government.
echo chamber of racists, useful idiots, and Blackcat...
There is also a wider point to be made. Certain opinions on world events, such as the Ceylon civil war, are not suppressed, anti-Zionist views are..
Douglas Reed was a Times correspondent and best selling author. He was anti-Nazi, so much so that he resigned his Times post because of their support for appeasement of Hitler. But it was his anti-Zionist views that got his books banned. Of course he was accused of being anti-semitic, but this was a smear, his arguments against Zionism were political. It would be hard to agree with everything he said - e.g. his fear of communism taking over Africa was misplaced - but political views should be countered by alternative political views, not by prohibition..
Jim Allen's play Perdition was about real life events in Jerusalem in 1955. The Israeli government commenced a libel case against Malchiel Gruenwald,
a Hungarian Jew who lost 52 relatives at Auschwitz. He had accused another Hungarian Jew Rudolf Kastner of collaborating with the Nazis and failing to warn the Hungarian Jewish community that they were to be loaded onto trains and taken to the gas chambers. Kastner was nominally a witness in the case but became the defacto defendant as his actions during the war were questioned. Jim Allen's play was shut down under false allegations of anti-Semitism. .
#And as far as I know there is only one set of events in history where having a certain view of those events will get you imprisoned. .
But you don't have to be a Holocaust denier to be labelled anti-Semitic, .
arguing in favour of free speech on the
matter, as done by Noam Chomsky, Christopher Hitchens and Peter Singer is enough.
lots of blood libels on the arabs tho too hawkforce. this elders tropes work both ways.
open invitation to be universal in the condemnation of all bigotry.
would be welcomed
thnxI'm getting there, Blackcat - give me my moment to shine a light in this dark dark place...
No wonder Cancat's pissed...
am I all three?
Irony
I'm not the one who is pissed - in either sense of the word. I'm loving your drunken rant.
Fully inclusive? What about those who left / were forced out of the country and still to this day not allowed to return?
What a stupid question - quite clearly Israeli citizenship rights do not apply to those who are not citizens. The point is that Israeli Citizens are all allowed to vote, are represented proportionally and are equal under law regardless of race, colour or gender or sexuality.
This is in contrast to say... everywhere else in the region.
But if we're talking Right of Return - the moment you get Yemen, Tunisia, Iraq, UAE to repatriate with full rights the several hundred thousand jews driven out after 1948 in racist pogroms. Ethnically cleansing an ancient heritage...
Or perhaps ou want to stop being a twat and just acknowledge that Israel is a far more democratic and far less racist nation than AUSTRALIA.
What a stupid question - quite clearly Israeli citizenship rights do not apply to those who are not citizens. The point is that Israeli Citizens are all allowed to vote, are represented proportionally and are equal under law regardless of race, colour or gender or sexuality.
This is in contrast to say... everywhere else in the region.
But if we're talking Right of Return - the moment you get Yemen, Tunisia, Iraq, UAE to repatriate with full rights the several hundred thousand jews driven out after 1948 in racist pogroms. Ethnically cleansing an ancient heritage...
What a load of rubbish.
Such a tired defence, screaming racism and antisemitism whenever people do not agree with Israels treatment of the Palestinians, nor its heavy handed approach to foreign policy in the region.
In fact, if you had a semblance of conscience or intellectual honesty, you would feel ashamed of yourself.
I am a passionate advocate of a viable Palestinian State. It's surprisingly close to becoming a reality. That's why racists like Cancat are whiteanting this argument. To destroy consensus and foment conflict. Which would be obvious if you just took a moment to research his idol...
Considering I haven't posted in this thread before that comment, you now spreading that accusation to me, though subtly, shows the dishonesty of your position.
It is an affront to both peoples intelligence and the concept of critical thinking. Someone asks legitimate questions, or makes genuine and empathic observations, about the plight of the Palestinians or has a less than right wing extremist view of Israeli foreign policy and those that don't agree scream racism and antisemitism.
The only defence they have against the indefensible.
It is people like you, who form opinions and make accusations based on their ideological bent, demonstrating a complete lack of moral compass, that contribute to the world being a more hostile and hateful place.
Someone asks legitimate questions, or makes genuine and empathic observations, about the plight of the Palestinians or has a less than right wing extremist view of Israeli foreign policy and those that don't agree scream racism and antisemitism.
I am gonna call you on this.
Anyone following this issue now understands the 500,000 settlers in East Jerusalem and the West Bank have now made a viable state not possible. we are talking NOT bantustans, not the Oslo accords, the water rights, and resource rights etc. and the withdrawal from Gaza was to be a smokescreen figleaf to continue to populate the WB. I have less problem with this, if there are equal rights, and compensation.
transparency and honesty, not the talking points, which are easy to refute. we cant all be rubes
Go, Orstraya!also, many of the Israeli govt are racist cranks too. avigdor the foreign minister before the police brought him in.
Go, Orstraya!
We don't have any racist politics.