Racing WS Cox Plate 2023

[Jugada]

Tenuous rankings after having a look at todays races

1. Fangirl - Has never raced beyond a mile in open grade and has to be a huge possibility Cotton Wool Waller just sets her for one of the mile races.
2. Alligator Blood - Ticked the 2000m box today by winning well. Form out of the race was questionable but we already know he has a high enough level at his best. As an on speed runner at the Valley will likely start favourite for mine.
3. Gold Trip - If he backs up I think he is the best horse but he will be sitting near last at the Valley and likely running up the back of them like last year.
4. Romantic Warrior - Not getting the juice in the price for his average first up run.
5. Mr Brightside - Has class but dont think he stays 2000m at all.

Confidence levels very low though and in such an open edition feels like we could get a Pinker Pinker, FOO, Shamus Award type winner

 

[Jugada]

Current betting market is a sorry sight having to pick between the gross unders of the B grade leftovers, the gross unders of the hype merchants or the gross unders of the horses who want a different trip.

If gun to head had to do an early ranking I think I would have it something like

Prowess
Mounga
Mr Brightside
Light Infantry
Sharp n Smart
Osipenko
Cascadian

 

[iluvparis]

Pen light infantry as discussed. Couldn’t win if it started now.

Prowess won’t be up to them either

Current top 3 is obvious

Fangirl
Mounga
Cascadian

of which Fangirl should be clear fave before Waller sets her for the Five Diamonds instead

 

[Jugada]

1500m is his trip mate. He’d been running in 1400m group 1s. Quick bit of insight for you. He won’t be fast enough over 2000 either as he is no good. Half a dozen of our local dross will be good enough for him just like they were in the Eagle.

Nah definitely not a 1500m horse out here. Just like I said at the time of the Eagle. Needs further out here

 

[Jugada]

Pen light infantry as discussed. Couldn’t win if it started now.

Prowess won’t be up to them either

Current top 3 is obvious

Fangirl
Mounga
Cascadian

of which Fangirl should be clear fave before Waller sets her for the Five Diamonds instead

Not a chance Fangirl goes to the Cox Plate when old cotton wool can stay in Sydney over trips he has already kept her at

 

[iluvparis]

Nah definitely not a 1500m horse out here. Just like I said at the time of the Eagle. Needs further out here

Needs weaker. It’s just a slightly longer distance Artorius. Can win a very weak G1 down here if his turn comes on the right day but isn’t getting near winning a cox plate.

 

[Jugada]

Aus Blood have purchased some Euro to race in the Cox Plate this week. No idea who yet

 

[plays tall 1]

Aus Blood have purchased some Euro to race in the Cox Plate this week. No idea who yet

New Energy

 

[pendlebury_10]

Mounga
Mr Brightside
Light Infantry
Sharp n Smart
Osipenko
Cascadian

Surely the winner is coming from overseas or something here that is completely untapped. That list is awful

 

[iluvparis]

New Energy

Makes sense - standard D grade purchase from them that will be nowhere near it.

 

[iluvparis]

Surely the winner is coming from overseas or something here that is completely untapped. That list is awful

Yes the only non international winners in a decade are Winx and Anamoe last year - who probs would have been rolled by El Bogdeon if they had even gone half a gallop. Any half decent raider that turns up will win - the question is will they given the Mengele RV vets?

 

[HeathySure]

Wouldnt shock if its a Pinker Pinker or Shamus Award type year

 

[Play On Advantage]

When will the 3 year olds start to show themselves?

 

[tombomb]

New Energy

I could tell from the interview with the Aus Bloodstock bloke that they were trying to overhype it to flog it.

Someone from Yulong probably fell for it.

 

[Jugada]

I could tell from the interview with the Aus Bloodstock bloke that they were trying to overhype it to flog it.

Someone from Yulong probably fell for it.

Better credentialed than Gold Trip apparently...

 

[iluvparis]

When will the 3 year olds start to show themselves?

The northern hemisphere ones? Need to see the ones that run down the track in the G1/2s over the next couple of months.

 

[iluvparis]

Doubt many locals are beating WAF home if it’s dry

 

[Areyoufireal]

WAF still 15s on SB, into 8s TAB. Suspect SB will add the money back if it doesn't run promo.

 

[dontlimitme]

WAF still 15s on SB, into 8s TAB. Suspect SB will add the money back if it doesn't run promo.

surely goes caulfield cup

 

[iluvparis]

surely goes caulfield cup

Gold trip board

 

[IKnowtheDog]

Gold trip board

So run dead in Caulfield Cup, Cox Plate and walk in the Melbourne Cup

 

[dontlimitme]

Without A Fight lands Q22 punch

Former talented English galloper Without A Fight will head to spring after two feature race wins in Queensland

www.racing.com

His co-trainer Anthony Freedman said Without A Fight had a bright future and they would now spell him for a month in Queensland which was always part of their plan.

Freedman said they would concentrate initially on the Caulfield Cup and take it from there.

 

[Jugada]

So long as he isn't too harshly weighted he is a Cups horse not a Cox Plate horse. He is definitely not a betting option in anything at the moment though

 

[iluvparis]

So long as he isn't too harshly weighted he is a Cups horse not a Cox Plate horse. He is definitely not a betting option in anything at the moment though

Jug plz. He is a top 3 local hope in a CP

 

[Jugada]

Jug plz. He is a top 3 local hope in a CP

He is a top 1 local in the Cups depending on weights. He wont be there

 

[iluvparis]

He is a top 1 local in the Cups depending on weights. He wont be there

Once he hoses up in a couple of WFA lead ups he will be