Your club's best teams of exports v imports

[Strapping Young Lad]

Hawthorns export team....phwoaaar!

 

[Sttew]

Hawthorns export team....phwoaaar!

Only a team that has won, what, 8 premierships in the past 30 years could boast a super export team like that.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Hawk Exports:

Brad Scott Justin Leppitsch Campbell Brown
Brett Lovett Luke McPharlin Jade Rawlings
Darren Millane Josh Kennedy Daniel Chick
Gary Ablett Snr Stewart Loewe Paul Hudson
Nathan Thompson Lance Franklin Mark Williams

Peter Everitt Darren Jarman Ben Allan

Alan Martello Terry Wallace Steve Malaxos Barry Rowlings

Leppitsch, Millane, Lovett & Loewe were all on our list, as the footy records from 1979-1982 show, but never played a game for our seniors.

Hawk Imports:

James Frawley Brian Lake Danny Jacobs
Ian Bremner Stephen Gilham Josh Gibson
Jono Simpkin Russell Greene Joel Smith
Jack Gunston Ben McEvoy Stuart Dew
Paul Salmon John Barker David Hale

Shaun Rehn Shaun Burgoyne Brent Guerra

Peter Everitt Michael Byrne Matt Spangher

So many rucks, unable to breed em on our own, so it seems.

 

[andrew coombs]

Hawk Exports:

Brad Scott Justin Leppitsch Campbell Brown
Brett Lovett Luke McPharlin Jade Rawlings
Darren Millane Josh Kennedy Daniel Chick
Gary Ablett Snr Stewart Loewe Paul Hudson
Nathan Thompson Lance Franklin Mark Williams

Peter Everitt Darren Jarman Ben Allan

Alan Martello Terry Wallace Steve Malaxos Barry Rowlings

Leppitsch, Millane, Lovett & Loewe were all on our list, as the footy records from 1979-1982 show, but never played a game for our seniors.

Hawk Imports:

James Frawley Brian Lake Danny Jacobs
Ian Bremner Stephen Gilham Josh Gibson
Jono Simpkin Russell Greene Joel Smith
Jack Gunston Ben McEvoy Stuart Dew
Paul Salmon John Barker David Hale

Shaun Rehn Shaun Burgoyne Brent Guerra

Peter Everitt Michael Byrne Matt Spangher

So many rucks, unable to breed em on our own, so it seems.

I see your point but I just can't have Leppitch,Millane,or Loewe in the side. Lovett was captain of the thirds and played plenty of reserves footy so he half counts. Scott,Brown,Rawlings,Chick,Williams and Malaxos stand out as very shaky inclusions when you consider the following Premiership players are not in your side.

Heath
Wittman
Curran
Eade( 4 premierships)
Dermott (5 premierships)
K Mathews
Russo
M.Byrne
Welsh
Croad
Abbott.
G Dear

 

[Procrastinator35]

I see your point but I just can't have Leppitch,Millane,or Loewe in the side. Lovett was captain of the thirds and played plenty of reserves footy so he half counts. Scott,Brown,Rawlings,Chick,Williams and Malaxos stand out as very shaky inclusions when you consider the following Premiership players are not in your side.

Heath
Wittman
Curran
Eade( 4 premierships)
Dermott (5 premierships)
K Mathews
Russo
M.Byrne
Welsh
Croad
Abbott.
G Dear

Millane played heaps of reserves footy as I clearly recall watching him - Alongside of Lovett- on many an occasion, from the confines of the Hawthron Stand at Princes Park, circa 1981-1982.....Much like Ablett Senior, he had the natural ability but lacked discipline/work-ethic at the time....so if you allow Lovett, then Millane is also in!

Still to this day don't understand why we cut Leppa & Lord go, as they definitely had sumfin bout them when I saw em as juniors just prior to the advent of our current draft system at the end of 1986....Loewe, well yeah, he only played under 19's with us from memory, perhaps a single game in the ressies at most.

Brad Scott was a dual Premiership player with the Lions, Campbell Brown was more than serviceable to the Coasters for some 4 seasons (apart from the last one, obviously), Chick played in a Premiership with West Coast & in fact, was involved in the crucial play which resulted in them kicking the match winning goal in the last quarter in 2006. Malaxos returned to West Coast in 1990 & was named their Captain that year, much as Allan was for Freo when he returned.!

Not sure where you got Curran from?...A handful of games for the Saints oerhaps? Or was it the Bears? Derm played but a mere handful at both Sydney & Collingwood to get him over the 200 game milestone, Wittman, Russo & Anderson were all shipped off to the Saints & hardly set the world on fire there. Ditto Eade at the Bears & Heath at Carlton.

Kelvin Matthews was serviceable for the Cats, Welsh was on the bench in the Tigers 80 Gf...Abbott & Dear merely performed cameo roles at their second clubs. Croad returned so am somewhat ambivalent as to which category, if any, he belongs?...Perhaps both or none!...Byrne was a good pick up & played close to 90 games for us, including the 1983 Premiership....Can't recall what he did at the Swans?

Probably Big Al Martello also deserved a mention.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Only a team that has won, what, 8 premierships in the past 30 years could boast a super export team like that.

A forward line of Ablett and Buddy would sellout the G every week.

 

[Sub_Zero]

Exports:

B: Heath Shaw ~ Mal Michael ~ Andrew Schauble
HB: Heath Scotland ~ Jason McCartney ~ Heritier Lumumba

C: Dale Thomas ~ Mick Mcguane ~ Sharrod Wellingham

HF: Paul Williams ~ Saverio Rocca ~ Nick Davis
F Peter Moore ~ Chris Tarrant ~ Brad Dick

R Damian Monkhorst ~ Tony Francis ~ Dayne Beams

Int: Rhyce Shaw ~ John McCarthy ~ Damien Adkins ~ Danny Stanley


Imports:

B: Gary Pert ~ Chris Tarrant ~ James Clement
HB: Travis Varcoe ~ Shane Wakelin ~ Glenn Freeborn

C: Shane Woewodin ~ Luke Ball ~ Paul Licuria

HF: Paul Medhurst ~ Anthony Rocca ~ Dermott Brereton
F: Leigh Brown ~ Scott Cummings ~ Andrew Krakeour

R: Darren Jolly ~ Levi Greenwood ~ Nathan Buckley

Int: Taylor Adams ~ Blake Caracella ~ Barry Mitchell ~ Shane O'Bree

They've barely played for the club and you're putting them in a best 22 of all time

 

[bradrowe#32]

Imports:

B: Gary Pert ~ Chris Tarrant ~ James Clement
HB: Travis Varcoe ~ Shane Wakelin ~ Glenn Freeborn

C: Shane Woewodin ~ Luke Ball ~ Paul Licuria

HF: Paul Medhurst ~ Anthony Rocca ~ Dermott Brereton
F: Leigh Brown ~ Scott Cummings ~ Andrew Krakeour

R: Darren Jolly ~ Levi Greenwood ~ Nathan Buckley

Int: Taylor Adams ~ Blake Caracella ~ Barry Mitchell ~ Shane O'Bree

That team would have won a flag.

 

[cammo78]

IMPORTS

B: Brad Wira (FRE), Mark Kellett (St.K), Matthew Robbins (Geel)
HB: Todd Curley (coll) , Peter Foster (Fitz), Matthew Dent (Fitz)
C: Nicky Winmar (St.K), Phil Maylin (Carl), Nathan Eagleton (Port)
HF: Richard Osborne (Syd), Daniel Bandy (Freo), Scott Welsh (Adel)
F: Paul Hudson (Haw), Barry Hall (Syd), Simon Garlick (Syd)
R: Ben Hudson (Adel), Jose Romero (North), Jason Akermanis (Bris)
INT: Terry Wallace (Rich), Kingsley Hunter (Freo), Ben Harrison (Rich), Koby Stevens (WC)
EM: Justin Sherman (Bris), Tony Buhagiar (Ess), Patrick Veszpremi (Syd)

EXPORTS
B: Jarrod Harbrow (GC), Brian Lake (Haw), Brad Hardie (Bris)
HB: Leon Cameron (Rich), Murray Rance (WC), Callan Ward (GWS)
C: Kym Koster (Adel), Daniel Cross (Melb), Doug Hawkins (Fitz)
HF: Jim Edmond (Syd), Kelvin Templeton (Melb), Nathan G Brown (Rich)
F: Josh Hill (WC) , Bernie Quinlan (Fitz), Barry Standfield (Adel)
R: Gary Dempsey (North), Simon Atkins (Fitz), Tony McGuinness (Adel)
INT: Ilija Grgic (WC), Mark Alvey (Ess), Michael Martin (Bris), Brett Montgomery (Port)
EM: Brian Wilson (Melb), Shane Ellen (Adel), Simon Cox (Haw)


Criteria is that they have to have played a premiership season match as an import/export. Hence no Griffen, Cooney, Boyd or Liberatore (under 19s at North) until April.

Pretty much sums up why we've been bereft of a flag since 1954.

What we lose is ten times better than anything we gain.

Out: Six Brownlow medallists, a future Norm Smith medallist.

In: One Brownlow medallist.

Also serves to highlight the potential danger free agency represents to a club like ours.

 

[andrew coombs]

Millane played heaps of reserves footy as I clearly recall watching him - Alongside of Lovett- on many an occasion, from the confines of the Hawthron Stand at Princes Park, circa 1981-1982.....Much like Ablett Senior, he had the natural ability but lacked discipline/work-ethic at the time....so if you allow Lovett, then Millane is also in!

Still to this day don't understand why we cut Leppa & Lord go, as they definitely had sumfin bout them when I saw em as juniors just prior to the advent of our current draft system at the end of 1986....Loewe, well yeah, he only played under 19's with us from memory, perhaps a single game in the ressies at most.

Brad Scott was a dual Premiership player with the Lions, Campbell Brown was more than serviceable to the Coasters for some 4 seasons (apart from the last one, obviously), Chick played in a Premiership with West Coast & in fact, was involved in the crucial play which resulted in them kicking the match winning goal in the last quarter in 2006. Malaxos returned to West Coast in 1990 & was named their Captain that year, much as Allan was for Freo when he returned.!

Not sure where you got Curran from?...A handful of games for the Saints oerhaps? Or was it the Bears? Derm played but a mere handful at both Sydney & Collingwood to get him over the 200 game milestone, Wittman, Russo & Anderson were all shipped off to the Saints & hardly set the world on fire there. Ditto Eade at the Bears & Heath at Carlton.

Kelvin Matthews was serviceable for the Cats, Welsh was on the bench in the Tigers 80 Gf...Abbott & Dear merely performed cameo roles at their second clubs. Croad returned so am somewhat ambivalent as to which category, if any, he belongs?...Perhaps both or none!...Byrne was a good pick up & played close to 90 games for us, including the 1983 Premiership....Can't recall what he did at the Swans?

Probably Big Al Martello also deserved a mention.

I wasent aware that inclusion in the side was based on the players impact at his new club. The OP makes no mention of that stipulation. If it did matter than both Rawlings and Williams are ineligble straight away. Curran was one of the many ageing players from successful clubs that went seeking a bit of super at the old Bad news bears in 1991 ( played 14 games ) The list of players I added were all key contributors to some powerful teams at the HFC.

 

[Procrastinator35]

I wasent aware that inclusion in the side was based on the players impact at his new club. The OP makes no mention of that stipulation. Curran played at Bribane for a year or so.

Fair point....He does stipulate best though!....Ultimately it's up to the individual to decide whether it means best players by way of reputation at the time of leaving/arriving, or, depending on the quality of service & play rendered at the new destination....I.E Value delivered.

For example....Dermott was a big name export to the Swans/Magpies, but would you say he gave those clubs value for money so far as services rendered?...Or was he in fact past his best & only holding on for the 200 game milestone or the need/desire to remain in the spotlight?

Whereas Millane only ever played rezzies footy at Hawthorn, but what he did for Collingwood far outweighs the value delivered by most other players!

To my way of thinking that makes Millane a high-end quality export but Dermott a rather meek & mild one.

Many of the guys that both Hawthorn & Carlton shuffled off to the saints in the 80's & early 90's were past their best & never really going to last the course at VFL/AFL level...Only a few (Ken Sheldon comes to mind) gave long & sustained periods of quality service to their new club.

 

[andrew coombs]

Fair point....He does stipulate best though!....Ultimately it's up to the individual to decide whether it means best players by way of reputation at the time of leaving/arriving, or, depending on the quality of service & play rendered at the new destination....I.E Value delivered.

For example....Dermott was a big name export to the Swans/Magpies, but would you say he gave those clubs value for money so far as services rendered?...Or was he in fact past his best & only holding on for the 200 game milestone or the need/desire to remain in the spotlight?

Whereas Millane only ever played rezzies footy at Hawthorn, but what he did for Collingwood far outweighs the value delivered by most other players!

To my way of thinking that makes Millane a high-end quality export but Dermott a rather meek & mild one.

Many of the guys that both Hawthorn & Carlton shuffled off to the saints in the 80's & early 90's were past their best & never really going to last the course at VFL/AFL level...Only a few (Ken Sheldon comes to mind) gave long & sustained periods of quality service to their new club.

I agree that the post could be looked at in two ways. You have placed more emphasis on the value given at the new home ( although you slipped up with Rawlings and Williams ) where I have just ranked the entire career of players who left the HFC for one reason or another. The problem is that players who left really successful clubs back in the 80"s and 90"s tend to have been pushed out rather than gone looking for opportunity ( or money ) elsewhere. All those blokes who ended up at StKilda and Brisbane where never going to reach anything like their best footy. They were past it.The likes of J Kennedy wouldn't have been let go because lists were bigger and patience longer. Apart from Gary Ablett ( circumstances ) I can't think of one senior player from that powerful era who became a better player after leaving. In more modern times with salary cap squeeze and the lure of home for interstate recruits we have been unable to hold on to a number of terrific players, some of whom have indeed played better after leaving. McPharlin, Scott, Kennedy, Tuck and McGlynn are examples of this. Still, considering the amount of payer movement the strike rate remains pretty good in players giving their best at Hawthorn.

 

[mike123]

They've barely played for the club and you're putting them in a best 22 of all time

Yes, get over it.

 

[Roysforever]

Too many quality players to fit into a Fitzroy export team

I've endeavoured to limit players to the 1980/90s and also excluded the eight players selected by Brisbane post merger.

B: Stephen Paxman, Gary Pert, Dale Kickett
HB: Martin Pike, Paul Roos, John Blakey
C: Darren Kappler, Paul Broderick, Jason Baldwin
HF: Peter Caven, Alastair Lynch, Ross Lyon
F: Doug Barwick, Richard Osborne, Ken Hinkley
Foll: Matthew Primus, Matthew Armstrong, Scott McIvor

Interchange from: Marcus Seecamp, Michael Gale, Tim Pekin, Matthew Dent, Brendan McCormack, Peter Foster, Glenn Coleman, Frank Marchesani, Brad Gotch, Bernie Harris, Tony Woods and others

If only.....

 

[scotty13]

Not to sure of all our imports and exports im sure another port supporter will help me out but ill give it a go:

Import:
FB ___, Hombsch, ____
HB Carr Wakelin Krakouer
C Polec Pickett Cockatoo-Collins
HF White Schulz Wanganeen
FF Monfries Ryder Motlop
R Primus Ebert Hardwick

Export:
FB Chaplin Harley Gilham
HB Pearce C Cornes Guerra
C Stevens Thomas Lower
HF Dew ____, Rodan
FF Brogan Cummings?, ____
R Giles Burgoyne Eagleton

Dont know if rodan, Carr and Nathan krakouer is in the right team.

Id also put in the likes of Craig Bradley in exports and Wanganeen in export too. Buckley could fall under exports as could Russel Ebert. not a bad 4 players to have in our exports.

 

[Wizard]

Id also put in the likes of Craig Bradley in exports and Wanganeen in export too. Buckley could fall under exports as could Russel Ebert. not a bad 4 players to have in our exports.

No they can't.

If we're playing that game theres a lot of old South and East Freo guys i can add to my list.

 

[JA27]

Collingwood Exports

B: Charlie Tyson (NM) Mal Michael (Bears) Bruce Abernethy (Adel)
HB: Billy Picken (Syd) Albert Collier (Fitz) Max Richardson (Fitz)

R: Len Thompson (SM/Fitz) Des Tuddenham (Ess) Charlie Pannam (Rich)
C: Phil Carmen (Melb/Ess/NM) Dick Condon (Rich) Mick McGaune (Carl)

HF: Mark Williams (Bears) Peter Moore (Melb) Paul Williams (Syd)
F: Nick Davis (Syd) Peter McKenna (Carl) Rene Kink (Ess/StK)

I: Geoff Raines (Ess/Bears) Brad Boyd (Fitz/Bears) Dan Minouge (Rich/Haw) Saverio Rocca (NM)

E: Tony Francis (StK) Scott Russell (Syd) Chris Tarrant (Freo) Damien Monkhurst (StK)

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Exports:
FB: J Hay, L McPharlin, J Rawlings
HB: C Brown, T Croad, M Graham
C: R Taylor, D Chick, D Harford
HF: D Jarman, L Franklin, P Hudson
FF: N Thompson, G Ablett Snr, M Williams
R: P Everitt, J Kennedy, B Allan

Others: N Lonie, B McGlynn, B Renouf, M Collica, Z Dawson, X Ellis, S Savage, T Murphy, S Gilham, C Young

A damn strong export team!

Imports:
FB: B Guerra, B Lake, J Smith
HB: J Gibson, M Spangher, J Frawley
C: A Rock, L Picioane, S Beaumont
HF: J Barker, J Gunston, B McEvoy
FF: P Everitt, D Hale, A Lord,
R: P Salmon, S Burgoyne, J Simpkin

Others: S Rehn, D Jacobs, B Young, S Minton-Connell, B Krummel

Really struggling for imports. They were all pretty bad until the current crop.

PS: I don't think players who were delisted or returned from retirement like Salmon and Brereton can be called exports or imports. Only trades and free agency are counted.

Excellent effort. Think Derm is an export isn't he, as was Matty Robran and surely Croad is in both teams !!!

Jarman was traded in from Brisbane from memory so he is an import isn't he?

 

[The Swert]

Excellent effort. Think Derm is an export isn't he, as was Matty Robran and surely Croad is in both teams !!!

Jarman was traded in from Brisbane from memory so he is an import isn't he?

As I mentioned in my post, I would not call Brereton or Salmon exports as they both 'retired' from Hawthorn before making comebacks.

Replace Spangher with Croad and Jarman can come in for McEvoy in the imports team.

Not sure if Robran would sneak into the exports team. But he does qualify and should enter the discussion.

 

[Schauermann]

FREMANTLE:

Imports -
B: Chris Bond, Luke McPharlin, Dean Solomon
HB: Adam McPhee, Trent Croad, Heath Black
C: Des Headland, Adrian Fletcher, Danyle Pearce
HF: Troy Cook, Chris Tarrant, Stuart Anderson
F: Jeff Farmer, Tony Modra, Brad Wira
R: Troy Simmonds, Peter Bell, Josh Carr
INT: Matthew Carr, Troy Longmuir, Jon Griffin, Daniel Metropolis

I have not included any of our original team members from the 1995 (Kickett, Mann, Allan, O'Rielly, Wills, Norrish) as i don't think they fit the exercise.

Exports -
B: Scott Chisolm, Trent Croad, James Clement
HB: Greg Broughton, Chris Tarrant, Adam McPhee
C: Jess Sinclair, Rhys Palmer , Steven Koops
HF: Winston Abraham, Leigh Brown, Paul Medhurst
F: Brad Wira, Troy Simmonds, Troy Longmuir
R: Jeff White, Peter Bell, Heath Black
INT: Brodie Holland , Robbie Warnock, Garry Dhurrkay, Rupert Betheras

Well, actually I am surprised the import team looks better then the export considerung our reputation of doing bad trades. But a few imports obviously played their best football for other clubs...

 

[Jinglebells32]

I'll have a go. ADELAIDE:

Imports -
B: Kris Massie, Mark Stevens, Nathan Bassett
HB: Jason Torney, Peter Caven, Andrew McLeod
C: Kym Koster, Scott Thompson, Greg Anderson
HF: Tony Hall, Matthew Robran, Bruce Lindner
F: Troy Bond, Wayne Carey, Eddie Betts
R: Sam Jacobs, Darren Jarman, Tony McGuinness
I: Matthew Clarke, Matt Connell, Tom Lynch, Matthew Bode

Exports -
B: Sean Wellman, Phil Davis, Brenton Sanderson
HB: Tyson Stenglein, Nathan Bock, Marty Mattner
C: Andrew Eccles, Bernie Vince, Chris Knights
HF: Peter Vardy, Kurt Tippett, Scott Welsh
F: Ivan Maric, Tony Modra, Jack Gunston
R: Shaun Rehn, Kane Johnson, Lance Piccione
I: Ben Hudson, Chad Rintoul, Paul Rouvray, Nick Pesch

 

[GoTigers2015]

IMPORTS

B: Peter Welsh - Robbie McGhie- Bachar Houli
HB: Graeme Landy - Ben Harrison - Mick Malthouse
C: Paul Sproule - Ian Stewart - Ben Cousins
HF: Paul Broderick - Leon Cameron - Nathan Brown
F: Kane Johnson - Troy Simmonds - Wayne Walsh
R: Ivan Maric- Barry Rowlings - Anthony Miles
I: - Michael Gale - Ricky McLean - Taylor Hunt - Sean Grigg

EXPORTS

B: Chris Bond - Francis Jackson - Andrew Krakouer
HB: Peter Wilson - Jeff Hogg - Jaime Tape
C: Geoff Raines - Billy Barrot - Brian Wood
HF: Nick Daffy - David Cloke - Stuart Maxfield
F: Brad Ottens - Brian Taylor - Jay Shultz
R: Graham Teasdale - Craig Lambert - Justin Murphy
I: Matthew White - Andrew Raines - Luke McGuane -Mitch Morton

 

[Marc_Remillard]

Good thread

Imports -
B: B.Pickett, C.Bizzell, M.Seecamp
HB: H. Lumumba, A.Ingerson, B.Lovett
C: C.Turley, B.Wilson, B.Crosswell
HF: B.Vince, P.Moore, M.Clark
F: D.Bennett, K.Templeton, S.Smith
R: J.White, B.Moloney, D.Tyson
INT: A.Clarkson, M.Pickering, D.Cross



Exports -
B: J.Rivers, J.Frawley, C.Bruce
HB: S.Woewodin, B.Miller, J.Norrish
C: S.Alves, S.Thompson, T.Johnstone
HF: B.Moloney, E.Spalding, S.Tingay
F: J.Farmer, M.Clark, A.Jakovich
R: D.Jolly, R. Barassi, Gerard Healy
INT: S.Martin, C.Sampson, L.Beveridge

Sorry, work has got in the way, need one more for each team

 

[Kimbo]

Probably missed a few obvious ones ...

Exports
B: J Gibson - M Martyn - L Brown
HB: B Pickett - R Glendinning - T McGrath
C: G Freeborn - S. Kekovich - A Rock
HF: D Hale - W Carey - P Krakouer
F: C. Mooney - C McKernan - B Allison
R: P Keenan - W Schwass - J Krakouer

Imports
B: D Laidley - B. Crosswell - J Blakey
HB: B Davis - L Colbert - M Pike
C: N Dal Santo - P Bell - S Alves
HF: S Grant - N Thompson - W Abraham
F: D. Wade - S Rocca - J Waite
R: G Dempsey - S Higgins - M Armstrong

I think the exports win.

A few suggested changes, including P. Bell in the Imports only. Exports still win.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

I see your point but I just can't have Leppitch,Millane,or Loewe in the side. Lovett was captain of the thirds and played plenty of reserves footy so he half counts. Scott,Brown,Rawlings,Chick,Williams and Malaxos stand out as very shaky inclusions when you consider the following Premiership players are not in your side.

Heath
Wittman
Curran
Eade( 4 premierships)
Dermott (5 premierships)
K Mathews
Russo
M.Byrne
Welsh
Croad
Abbott.
G Dear

Tony Hall was a pretty handy forward pocket HFF even when he came to the crows as an old man.