surely we goota take Ben!

[_RT_]

Re: vickery post cockie and hislop

If we did take Post I would like to see him developed up foward, or go back to the days of playing Schultz as a foward.

We already have:
- Rance - 193cm 88kg
- Thurstfield - 191cm 86kg
- McGuane - 191cm 88kg
- Moore - 189cm 89kg
- Silvester - 190cm 90kg

Plus
- Schultz - 193cm 94kg
- Bowden - 188cm 90 kg
- Polak - 194cm 94kg

That's a large portion of players in our team who play key position defensive roles. Although the one negative is the fact that the tallest of the 5 genuine prospects is Rance at only 193cm

However, down the other end of the ground we only have:
- Richo 195cm 101kg
- Hughes 193cm 94kg
- Riewoldt 192cm 88kg

Plus the unproven
- Putt 202cm 89kg
- Pattison 196cm 98kg

In summary, we are screaming out for key position fowards, while our defence looks alot more stable.


In regards to Hilsop, I would prefer that we didn't pick him up. The guy doesn't have great pace or great kicking skills. He seems more like a Coughlan/Thompson/Tuck/Cockie (if we get him) type player. Add to this his injury and suspension troubles and it doesn't bode well for him

Would be stocked with both Vickery and Cockie if we were to get them

I think people forget that we were using Schulz and Polak as KP utility types. Where we could swing them either way depending on need. When you look at it like that our KP stocks aren't as bad as people think.

KP defenders: Thursfield, McGuane, Moore, Rance, Silvester.
KP forwards: Riewoldt, Hughes, Richo, Putt, Pattison.
KP Utility: Schulz Polak
KP forward/Ruck: Simmonds, Graham

Thats 14 in total who are capable of filling a KP spot if needed. If we were to land both Vickery and Post as Burgan suggests that would make it 16.

Vickery would play as a forward/ruck for the first couple of seasons while he developed strength and Post would be developed as a defender. If that were to happen then it would allow us to play Moore as a mid sized rebounding defender which is the role I think he will be best suited to in future.

 

[Crumden]

Re: Richmond should take Cousins with Pick 58

Its the sponsors rather than the AFL. Every club that has looked at him has been warned off by their sponsors against recruiting him. Wouldn't be a good move for a club like us looking for a new sponsor.

Its a sad day when sponsors are calling the shots over whether or not certain players should be on a list, but a reality that we can't afford to ignore.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Re: Draft Discussion

Sibosado going at 44 plays on my worst fears about giving up 42. Thomson would want to be good because Siba will be a star.

 

[Mario Speedwagon]

Re: Don't be suprised

In saying that we wont get Cousins, we dont have the balls to take the risk.

Yep...it's the same mentality that keeps the likes of Hackson,Hughes,Schulz & King on our list, celebrates "our best 9th ever", retains a coach after 4 years without a finals appearance and makes Newman captain ahead of Deledio and Foley...

 

[THE_GUN]

Re: Don't be suprised

result if we draft him with pick 70 and it pays off...........gun player for 4 years.

and if he effs up, big deal lti list promote 1 of the 6 rookies we are allowed this year & dump him at the end of the season.

the player we would get with pick 70 will probably still be there in the rookie draft anyway. so what do we lose


NOTHING

 

[Themi#9]

Re: Don't be suprised

yehh i mean just take the punt! pick 70 for cousins should do just fine

 

[Madtiger2006]

Re: Don't be suprised

Why wouldn't he enter the psd? Having a sook? Nothing to lose and it will be his last chance if he doesn't get picked up this week. I'd get him in the psd for sure

 

[one eyedtiger]

Re: Don't be suprised

Obviously taking him would be a risk. I know he could help the younger midfielders develop. But if he gets caught again it'll be our name dragged through the mud and cop the criticism. So I say no.

 

[ize_]

Re: Don't be suprised

Not that good a footballer. Lids and Cotchin will be better in 1, 2 years max.

 

[Jim Jess's Jockstrap]

he's got 4 good years, 100 games and will take oppostion sides apart. I really cannot believe we will not take him. give me one valid reason why not?

 

[telsor]

2 sides have done in depth looks into him, and both said 'no'.

If it was just taking a quality player with 2-4 years left in him with a pick over 50, every side with salary cap space would jump at it, but none are.

Think about that.

 

[NQTIGER]

Re: Don't be suprised

Brisbane have withdrawn, quiet money is Sydney or Hawthorn

 

[Jim Jess's Jockstrap]

but each club is different. this bloke is a jet not a johnnie come lately. give me more reasons.

 

[Mr.X]

but each club is different. this bloke is a jet not a johnnie come lately. give me more reasons.

Just got back from a meeting in the CBD and it was revealed that Carlton are intending to use Pick 80 on Ben Cousins.

He's not keen on the Tigers, doesn't like Wallet's tan

 

[telsor]

but each club is different. this bloke is a jet not a johnnie come lately. give me more reasons.

I'm saying there are reasons we're not privy to.

 

[telsor]

Just got back from a meeting in the CBD and it was revealed that Carlton are intending to use Pick 80 on Ben Cousins.

He's not keen on the Tigers, doesn't like Wallet's tan

MrX, you're "meetings in the CBD" are known to be crap, so bugger off.

 

[mitch richmond]

I'd take him for sure. He's not the only bloke in the AFL who's had a drug problem, heck he probably wouldn't be the only one at Punt Rd with a problem. Robert Harvey played in a Prelim Final this year at 37 and like Harvey, Cousins is a gun and a fitness freak! Round 1 2009 - Tuck, Foley, Deledio, Tambling, Cotchin, Cousins and Richo. Slightly better than Round 1 1999 - Blurton, Funcke, James, Hilton and Rombotis and 1989 - Czerkaski, Pym, Laffey and Manton! GET HIM!

 

[Tiger67]

Just got back from a meeting in the CBD and it was revealed that Carlton are intending to use Pick 80 on Ben Cousins.

He's not keen on the Tigers, doesn't like Wallet's tan

You are so full of shite Mrs X.
For Carlton to take him with pick 80 would mean that he had nominated for the national draft.....Which he has not .
He will be in the Pre season draft.
You tool!!!!!!
You come and here and troll shite like that, at least try and get your facts somewhere close to right.

 

[Tiger67]

I'd take him for sure. He's not the only bloke in the AFL who's had a drug problem, heck he probably wouldn't be the only one at Punt Rd with a problem. Robert Harvey played in a Prelim Final this year at 37 and like Harvey, Cousins is a gun and a fitness freak! Round 1 2009 - Tuck, Foley, Deledio, Tambling, Cotchin, Cousins and Richo. Slightly better than Round 1 1999 - Blurton, Funcke, James, Hilton and Rombotis and 1989 - Czerkaski, Pym, Laffey and Manton! GET HIM!

Ahhhh... Chris Pym... What a star

I wonder what happened to him.

He may be hiding out with Ross Funcke trading career highlights

 

[mitch richmond]

You are so full of shite Mrs X.
For Carlton to take him with pick 80 would mean that he had nominated for the national draft.....Which he has not .
He will be in the Pre season draft.
You tool!!!!!!
You come and here and troll shite like that, at least try and get your facts somewhere close to right.

I'm pretty sure he is in saturdays draft. If Carl took him it'd have to be saturday 'cos they've committed to that ex-Melbourne midfielder Chris Johnson.

 

[Cleishy]

You are so full of shite Mrs X.
For Carlton to take him with pick 80 would mean that he had nominated for the national draft.....Which he has not .
He will be in the Pre season draft.
You tool!!!!!!
You come and here and troll shite like that, at least try and get your facts somewhere close to right.

I think Mr X is full of shit too but...

Cousins has nominated for the National Draft, so maybe you should get your facts straight also.

 

[mitch richmond]

Ahhhh... Chris Pym... What a star

I wonder what happened to him.

He may be hiding out with Ross Funcke trading career highlights

Funcke was part of the Richmond/Dees exchange program. They took Funcke, Ezra Poyas, Egan, Pickering and Dutchy Holland on. We gave Sullivan, Haydn Robins, Strawbs, Eishold and Sampson a go! Not sure who the winner was there!

 

[Tiger67]

I think Mr X is full of shit too but...

Cousins has nominated for the National Draft, so maybe you should get your facts straight also.

The mistake I made was listening to someone that said that he had not nominated for the ND and was going in the PSD and they also said there info came from SEN.
I should know better

 

[Tiger67]

Funcke was part of the Richmond/Dees exchange program. They took Funcke, Ezra Poyas, Egan, Pickering and Dutchy Holland on. We gave Sullivan, Haydn Robins, Strawbs, Eishold and Sampson a go! Not sure who the winner was there!

Dead heat.
Both lost out badly.

 

[The Jerk]

Only chance we will take him is if we delist someone (petts?), if even possible, before the third list lodgement on 6 Dec. so really doubtful.