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After this week's game I have seen a bit too much negativity.

FFS we are into a fifth Grand Final in a decade and were minor premiers.

Here are some problems and ways to look at benefits:

(1) Jolly and Reid being injured and could miss out

This has been a massive thing on our board and how we're finished because of it. But I look at it this way: In the last few rounds of the H&A Season, Cameron Wood was playing better than Jolly, whether Jolly was injured or not, and Wood has improved out of sight. He even was providing a solid forward target. I don't care what anyone says, I'll back him in the Grand Final. He might get monstered by Ottens, but in Round 8 he held his own and our midfield is good enough to shark the opposition taps.

As for Reid, I dare say he'll play. But lets face it, their tall forwards aren't near our talls and I would back Dawes + Cloke to boot more than Pods + Hawkins anyday of the week. If Reid doesn't play, we will find a way around it. We have a disciplined backline which anyone can play nearly any role. I back Scott Waters to organise it and ensure we aren't left short.

(2) We had a physically tolling match, while Geelong waltzed into the Grand Final

Even Robert Walls (of all people) pointed out that Collingwood have had 'finals atmosphere' matches and will be battle hardened. This could be crucial early on as we could hit them hard and come out of the blocks ala Prelim 2010. Not to mention lets face it, Geelong have a tendency to have a bit of arrogance, so lets hope they have the same mentality as other supporters on Big Footy.

(3) Key players are down on form/lack match practice

Thomas will be better for the run, Shaw had the "low second game" back, Maxwell got even better, Wellingham and Beams won't play a match like that two weeks in a row. And if anything the match against Hawthorn was the best match practice you could get. If anything, a match with "bruise free footy" would be no better than training, so this irons them out and prepares them for the Grand Final.


So for all those who think we're gone, spent, done, finished, caput - just remember what this group of young men did last year and have continued to do this year.

When the Saints hit the front at GF1 last year, the boys could have thrown in the towel and conceived they had choked again. But they didn't. They fought their way back, and then pounded the Saints with their supreme fitness the next week.

Last night we looked all but gone, but when it came down to it, we found something when all looked lost. We willed ourselves to the contest and kicked the clutch goals to win and book another Grand Final berth.

Lets not forget our midfield is intact, and if they can win the clearances, we are a huge shot, our forward line is dangerous and will good delivery, we should knock them off.

So please, lets forget about the negativity and look at what the boys have done and what they have to do. As Mick says "Take this as an opportunity. If you treat it as a loss it will be. So treat it as an opportunity"

Nick Maxwell, Heath Shaw, Dale Thomas and the rest of the boys who will run out on Saturday bleed for this club.

They believe, I believe.

Do you believe?
 
Don't sweat it brother, we can't lose, the cash bonus for winning pre-season and main season is up for grabs, what is it $1M extra. Yeah, grab that cash
Edit: Just realised that was only for 2007.

So we win for glory and the gold emblem on the tank top
 
this is what ive been wanting to see, a positive thread.

ive never seen a handful of supporters so shattered about making a grand final

Exactly. All those negative fans should look Nick Maxwell and Heath Shaw in the eye and tell them they have no hope.

Never say never with these blokes. :thumbsu:
 

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Sick of people saying, we lost to them twice, the first time we could have easily won if it wasnt for the dumb no advantage rule. The second time we played them means nothing, how people can count that loss as a reason why we will lose is a joke. Secondly, Mick is a smart coach he isnt gonna reveal all his cards before finals to Geelong. Thirdly the last quater was outstanding and we are carrying that momentum to the GF. Just w8 for the forward press on Saturday it will be a repeat of last years prelim.
 
Reid WILL PLAY?! if didak can play the finals series with a series pr0n pec reid can play with his minor injury. he played the rest of the game out againt hawthorn plus an 8 day rest.
 
Yep, we've just had a perfect GF rehearsal, they had a training run.

Look how it helped us last year...we even scored the same fateful 68 pts IIRC, last night and GF1.

We are likely without Jolly; they are likely without SJ and definitely Menzel ( haven't heard what they are saying re SJ but it certainly looked medial ligament the way his leg bent)

Reid should play..if he doesn't look how we held the tall WCE backline without Reid.

We have a much more experienced coach aswell...MM vs first year coach in pressure cooker grand final.

Bring it on and let's dismantle them!!!
 
Well there's nothing like Grand Final week, and having the club you support being in it, going to be one hell of a buildup and hopefully a good game at the end of it. The boys have been through this before, they know what needs to be done to make this year a success, and one game to do it. This is the moment we've all be waiting for since the start of the year, a shot at another flag.
 

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Cant believe the doubters.

Its been a metal thing for the players. Sure that 90 point loss didnt make me feel to great but it meant nothing.

In the 4th quarter we played like a champion team. It was a wake up call we needed to have. Look at what we did no other team is capable of doing that.

We will come out firing we will know this game will not just come to us. We are playing for mick and playing for the history books.
 
Personally, I felt distinctly uncomfortable with the arrogance of many Collingwood posters leading into the last game and the result vindicated my fears. The OP glosses over the out of form players and fails to mention that Sidebottom, Wellingham, Brown, Didak, O'Brien, Blair, Johnson, Maxwell, Jolly, Thomas and Reid (because of injury) are not playing as well as they did at the same stage last year. On the other hand, Geelong look a much more complete team than last year. So fill yourselves with all the positives you want, but try to make the positives a bit more realistic e.g. Wood is not 'improved out of sight' or 'providing a reliable forward target'.

If we win, it will not be because we carry better form or fitness into the GF than Geelong, because we don't.
 
Excellent thread.

Reid is not a massive loss against Geelong although I would just about give my left nut to ensure he is fit. if we were playing the Hawks, Saints or WCE would be a different story.

Jols, I love him but his form has not been great or injuries or whatever the issue has been but Wood has shown some good signs when given the chance. Ottens may dominate in the end but with Jolly's form he probably will dominate anyways.

One more win!! I think we will gut out the win in the end. May give me another "incident" like the dying minutes of GF1 but it will be worth it.
 
Guys don't forget eds email! They all want us to loose last night EVERYONE was against us and somehow we still won! It's time to belive! It's time to bleed! It's time to die for the colors ONE CLUB love your pies!
 
Reid WILL PLAY?! if didak can play the finals series with a series pr0n pec reid can play with his minor injury. he played the rest of the game out againt hawthorn plus an 8 day rest.


do understand what the torn pec meant vs a groin/hammy to a player reliant on running & kicking. very different.

but this is the no negatives thread, and despite what weve seen in the last 24 hours, i still firmly believe we will win next week.

why ?

a nice welcome return to form of the cloke/dawes show, the best power forward combo in the game.
the defence stood up again, holding the opposition forwards to 9 goals despite constant quality delivery.
the first choice on ball division were down in the 1st half but did recover in the 2nd half.
the second choice onballers barely contributed, and can only improve. this group are also the small forwards who were non existent.
whatever the ruck duo will be, the onballers will be readied as they have been during the year to ruck to the opposition if needed.

and the prime reason........

geelong are a confident team, understandably. they will have zero reason to believe they need to rely on any tactics other than those they relied upon in round 24 & their 2 finals games - to channel everything thru the corridor and long into their tall forwards or by breaking lines. the problem they will have is our defence is back on track again, conceding only 9 goals against each top 4 opponent. a magnificent effort. our on ball division are capable of huge performances and when switched on will beat any opponent. that leads to more & better quality delivery forward, lifting all those waiting.

yes its a lot of should & could, but weve seen it before so its not impossible. just needs faith that their best is ready to appear on october 1st.

and thats the other thing.................its october :D
 

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Excellent thread.

Reid is not a massive loss against Geelong although I would just about give my left nut to ensure he is fit. if we were playing the Hawks, Saints or WCE would be a different story.

Jols, I love him but his form has not been great or injuries or whatever the issue has been but Wood has shown some good signs when given the chance. Ottens may dominate in the end but with Jolly's form he probably will dominate anyways.

One more win!! I think we will gut out the win in the end. May give me another "incident" like the dying minutes of GF1 but it will be worth it.


I disagree with you on Reid mate. They have West, Podsiadly and Hawkins in their forward line thats three talls. We need him in the side, I dont wanna see Leigh Brown play in deffence ever again in his career.:)
 
I disagree with you on Reid mate. They have West, Podsiadly and Hawkins in their forward line thats three talls. We need him in the side, I dont wanna see Leigh Brown play in deffence ever again in his career.:)

I did say I would give my left nut to see him fit...and that is my "special" one...:p

I guess I am saying out of all the "big names"....cloke, swan, pendles, ball, Jolly, Taz, etc.. Given Geelongs fairly weak forward line (compared with mids and backs) there could be worse outs than a Reid......

And most importantly this is the NO negativity thread....:)
 
Great thread finally!!!!

Why are you even posting in here Ed and Zahki? Didn't you read the topic. geez

Go Pies

we have been winners all year...we are still winning...we will win!!!!!
 

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