ABC's 7:30 on New Hird/Dank evidence - 11 April; 3AW/9 Report Text Msg Contents

[MaddAdam]

Not calling for a witchunt but the investigation needs to proceed at full pace and be over as soon as possible before the Essendon name and sponsors are further driven through the mud.

I'd be shocked if this is true, but if it is, he deserves to go.

Driven through the mud?

The went to the big mud pile, jumped in and smeared themselves with it.

This is what the texts prove.

Jimmy in on it bigstyle. From go to woah.

He was knowingly injecting 18 year old kids with stuff not approved for human use. And lying to them about it.

He has to go.

He has to be charged with bringing the game into disrepute.

He has to be banned from any involvement in footy again.

What an absolute disgrace.

 

[Defacto]

i hope everyone turns off the radio/tv or put the paper down if spike mcveigh is on it. bloke has absolutely ZERO credibility or character.

he personally attacked reimers and was adamant that he and his team mates only ever received vitamin b and c injections

 

[RobertRichter]

David Evans implicated too.

 

[Rissoles]

Contrary to the AFL CEO's prediction, this will not take months to reach the ultimate conclusion. The media will ensure that.
And don't forget the other AFL player has targeted as a drug abuser. It is going to come out very shortly. I already know who it is.

 

[mxett]

Abc claiming essendon said they knew nothing about the injection regime. That's just plain lies!

They said in their original presses they believed they had followed wada guidelines

 

[Kwality]

Driven through the mud?

The went to the big mud pile, jumped in and smeared themselves with it.

This is what the texts prove.

Jimmy in on it bigstyle. From go to woah.

He was knowingly injecting 18 year old kids with stuff not approved for human use. And lying to them about it.

He has to go.

He has to be charged with bringing the game into disrepute.

He has to be banned from any involvement in footy again.

What an absolute disgrace.

Too tough for mine Daw, BUT if the Bombers had the ammo to close this down, it'd be all over & its not.

 

[Stencorp69]

Dank is full of crap one moment he say nothing he has is illegal and he runs all classes of supplements by ASADA or WADA for approval, next thing he says he is juicing up the coach. Seems to me he has no credibility - I doubt the club knew he was juicing up players if true. FFS you hire a sports scientist to setup a supplement program - do you then need to hire someone to make sure that sports scientist is legit. Dank is a piece of crap IMO for trying to finger Hird.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rug...s-had-asadas-consent-dank-20130408-2hhgk.html

 

[hyperfuzz]

Dank is full of crap one moment he say nothing he has is illegal and he runs all classes of supplements by ASADA or WADA for approval, next thing he says he is juicing up the coach.

But he fingered him in the original interview with 7:30. It was cut out by ABC and aired tonight for the first time.

 

[Rissoles]

You can run but you can't hide......

 

[Just Kreuzing]

But he fingered him in the original interview with 7:30. It was cut out by ABC and aired tonight for the first time.

Should be investigated also, surely....

 

[blackshadow]

Driven through the mud?

The went to the big mud pile, jumped in and smeared themselves with it.

This is what the texts prove.

Jimmy in on it bigstyle. From go to woah.

He was knowingly injecting 18 year old kids with stuff not approved for human use. And lying to them about it.

He has to go.

He has to be charged with bringing the game into disrepute.

He has to be banned from any involvement in footy again.

What an absolute disgrace.

And if players are banned every one of them should be suing the bejesus out of Essendon FC.

 

[Smiling Buddha]

Jimmy knew.

 

[mxett]

Jimmy knew.

He never claimed he didn't know...what's changed?

 

[Johnny619]

He said from the start he knew.

 

[Defacto]

Contrary to the AFL CEO's prediction, this will not take months to reach the ultimate conclusion. The media will ensure that.
And don't forget the other AFL player has targeted as a drug abuser. It is going to come out very shortly. I already know who it is.

name names

 

[Haduken]

Question. Please point out where in this report was the evidence something illegal occurred?

I must have missed it.

No no not the 'inferences'. Not the 'allegations'.

The 'evidence'.

Help me out here. Should be easy.

 

[Rod Stroker]

But he fingered him

Might explain why Hird took those drugs which improve sex drive. Starting to make sense now.

 

[jenny61_99]

Thymosin has been named in the ACC report as being used by cronulla. Interesting read here:

https://theconversation.com/cronulla-sharks-and-thymosin-beta-4-is-it-doping-12694

The ACC report listed it as an unregulated substance that is prohibited under section S2 of WADA’s list of substances prohibited in-competition.

But the report also referred to it as a substance prohibited only if “subject to the form used” – a statement on legality which presumably (but not clearly) refers to how the substance is administered (intravenously, by intramuscular means, or orally).

TB-4 is not included as a specifically-named substance – in the same way as, say, growth hormone (GH), insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1) and fibroblast growth factors (FGFs) – but would fall under the “catch-all” clause in the list that states:

as well as any other growth factor affecting muscle, tendon or ligament protein synthesis/degradation, vascularisation, energy utilisation, regenerative capacity or fibre type switching and other substances with similar chemical structure or similar biological effect(s) …

 

[Adz]

Hird MUST go. Within next 24 hours at a max.

 

[mxett]

Hird MUST go. Within next 24 hours at a max.

For taking legal supplements. Wow! Nice work!

 

[Stencorp69]

Not sure when the finger was pointed really matters - Danks already stated as report in the article

"Before I've done anything in any forum, we have always had conversations with WADA or ASADA - or in some cases both," he said.
"They were always well informed of anything we were about to use. Nothing was ever used without asking them first and, in some cases, both parties were asked.
"Never once was anything indicated to me that we would have issues in terms of anything we used."
But he said Hird knew of the supplements program.

So Stank is an out an out liar for either accusing Hird or injecting PEDs. Either that or WADA and ASADA gave him the OK to juice up players.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Question. Please point out where in this report was the evidence something illegal occurred?

I must have missed it.

No no not the 'inferences'. Not the 'allegations'.

The 'evidence'.

Help me out here. Should be easy.

Dont worry about it, we are just playing, I am sure he will be fine......

 

[Bloodstained Bomber]

Hird MUST go. Within next 24 hours at a max.

Hope you are not holding your breath...

 

[Haduken]

Dont worry about it, we are just playing, I am sure he will be fine......

I am sure too. I'm just worried some of the posters here may harm themselves when we get a fine and that's it.

 

[Stencorp69]

Hird MUST go. Within next 24 hours at a max.

Good one coming from a Collingwood supporter - is there a club you don't complain about, anyone would think you guys only want to play with yourselves ..... oh.