if humans were really an intelligent species...

[neroblack]

Jeez people who hate humanity give me the shits. What do you propose, O saviour?

Underrated post.

 

[EagleMan87]

Mobile network technologies are humanities greatest invention IMO. I agree with the camera part, but your argument with smart phones in general is flawed.

And I'm assuming inventing medicine is much more difficult than it is to invent smartphone technologies, so theres that, too.

What makes you think that?

 

[Jewbacca]

 

[Leper]

I was just using smart phones and health as examples to illustrate my point, but they could be substituted for any number of things.

If we were working as a collective to better humanity, our pursuits would be different. It's the equivalent of having a super power but only using it for selfish pursuits.

Take pharmaceutical companies for instance. Pharmaceutical companies make their money off the misery of the world, if there were no sick people in the world pharmaceutical companies would go broke.

There are people out there with terminal illnesses hanging in there praying for a breakthrough to come.

Now, if a pharmaceutical company discovered the cure for cancer tomorrow, they would probably burn it. Pharmaceutical companies are in the business of prolonging people's lives and masking their symptoms rather than curing diseases altogether, because the moment you cure a disease you lose your ability to make money off it.

That's a bit of a cynical conspiracy theory.

Any company / indiviual that discovered this would make squillions out of it, so why would they hide it?

 

[Hot Pocket]

IF they figured they could patent and stop any competitor making it, and that they were already leading the industry in anti cancer treatment - by the very nature of how a corporation functions, they would actually be mad to release it in the public good.

It isn't a conspiracy theory, its simply how corporations and capitalism in the modern era are designed to work. There are countless examples of companies acting deliberately against the interests of humanity in the name of serving the 1% who own around 65% of all wealth in the world.

We are animals to them, the same way you or I might view a lamb or pig.

 

[MrCharisma]

we'd be investing our resources into technology too improve health instead of putting better cameras in smartphones. we'd be putting money into.curing diseases instead of just masking their symptoms. we'd be focused on making products that last instead of polluting the earth by creating things that constantly need to be replaced.

humanity is inherently flawed in that respect, everything about our society is driven by the dollar instead of actually benefiting society. we need to turn the corner sooner rather than later but i don't know what the answer is.

btw, touch screens on smartphones, is that not a technological oxymoron?

You do realise that unless you spend more money/time towards contributing directly to medical advances than you do on technology like the smart phone you used to post this topic (which I highly doubt) you are exactly who you are complaining about?

 

[ep2018]

What makes you think that?

I guess mainly my reason is that I always seem more fascinated by the technologies used for one person to almost instantly contact or send data to another person anywhere around the world wirelessly (well, for the most part anyway). My field of work is IT networking so I have some bias to my answer. The idea of saving human lives and preventing disease is also quite an amazing technology. Its too bad the NBN will be canned as medicine and network technologies really do go and in hand - faster internet would allow skilled doctors from anywhere in the world to operate, using robots (another technology entirely), on a person without the need for skilled doctors locally.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

You do realise that unless you spend more money/time towards contributing directly to medical advances than you do on technology like the smart phone you used to post this topic (which I highly doubt) you are exactly who you are complaining about?

Me donating the money I spent on my smartphone to a health/medical related charity won't solve the worlds problems. That would be the equivalent of spitting at a bush fire to put it out.

If there was a revolution tomorrow and they said you will never see another technological advancement in phones/tvs/computers/cars etc. Your taxes will go towards improving health services & standards of living, I'd sign up tomorrow.

But I'm not about to throw my phone in the bin to take a stand against the machine, it would be utterly pointless.

Call me a hypocrite, I'd say I'm more of a realist

 

[Upgrayedd]

5000 odd years we've been creating alcohol, it's why we started living in towns, creating farms and communication on how to make alcohol

However nobody's ever created a hangover cure. We should lift our game

 

[little graham]

Big screen plasma TVs can't really be used as the go-to trope for the evils of capitalism any more, considering how cheap they are these days.

These TV's don't last very long, these TV's are mostly cheaper to replace with a new one than they're to repair.

What do you think has a bigger carbon footprint, fixing plasma? or buying a new one?

 

[EagleMan87]

I guess mainly my reason is that I always seem more fascinated by the technologies used for one person to almost instantly contact or send data to another person anywhere around the world wirelessly (well, for the most part anyway). My field of work is IT networking so I have some bias to my answer. The idea of saving human lives and preventing disease is also quite an amazing technology. Its too bad the NBN will be canned as medicine and network technologies really do go and in hand - faster internet would allow skilled doctors from anywhere in the world to operate, using robots (another technology entirely), on a person without the need for skilled doctors locally.

That's fair enough.

 

[Hot Pocket]

5000 odd years we've been creating alcohol, it's why we started living in towns, creating farms and communication on how to make alcohol

However nobody's ever created a hangover cure. We should lift our game

Inject vitamin B, hangover gone.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Inject vitamin B, hangover gone.

Last person i trust is Spike Mcveigh.

 

[Dazb86]

I'm putting my conspiracy hat on right now but....

I'm sure they've found a way to efficiently operate cars/homes without fossil fuel by now. I believe large companies are holding the technology back from the masses on the back of profit.

In regards to health care. Logically thinking we'd be better off not finding a cure for cancer. The world would be filled with people who can't fend for themselves in nursing homes and there is already an over population problem.

 

[Upgrayedd]

I'm putting my conspiracy hat on right now but....

I'm sure they've found a way to efficiently operate cars/homes without fossil fuel by now. I believe large companies are holding the technology back from the masses on the back of profit.

About 20 years ago they had estimates how much fuel was left, how much profit it was going to net them and how long untill they had to engineer new ways for efficient fuel

Problem is china/India' rapid expansion and use of fossel fuels

Once it becomes far more cheaper to use new methods they'll eventually release the technology...eventually

 

[Hot Pocket]

I'm putting my conspiracy hat on right now but....

I'm sure they've found a way to efficiently operate cars/homes without fossil fuel by now. I believe large companies are holding the technology back from the masses on the back of profit.

In regards to health care. Logically thinking we'd be better off not finding a cure for cancer. The world would be filled with people who can't fend for themselves in nursing homes and there is already an over population problem.

That isnt a conspiracy theory, its pretty obvious that other energy sources were/are discovered a long time ago. But our society, due to our lack of internal care, values power/profit above everything.

Its time to smash up the joint for a while. Trying to change a stuffed system is a waste of time, let's just break the whole thing and rebuild in a new way.

 

[little graham]

Its time to smash up the joint for a while. Trying to change a stuffed system is a waste of time, let's just break the whole thing and rebuild in a new way.

The answer is socialism.A form of socialism that educates the lower classes. None of the previous forms that education has been only available to bare minimum that need it to do their role in society.

If my next door neighbor is using less electricity generated from his solar panels than he needs, but i'm having to pay for my electricity, some should be thrown my way. As long as i have efficient appliances and responsible energy using practices.

Olympic dam use rail and road past my town, they should be maintaining those roads, some of them are very scary and been a problem for years. Our small gov has had issues maintaining infrastructure. Olympic dams profit is far larger than ours.Our infrastructure should be the first priority, not overseas shareholders or the lifestyle of executives.Nor should donating to political parties that has no will to change the status quo..

 

[Tulip]

The problem with smashing the joint is that you'll find that a number of socialists at heart would love to be ruling capitalism. Regrettably, I think this is as good as our species will ever be if we keep on living in such large numbers. See Animal Farm.

 

[little graham]

Regrettably, I think this is as good as our species will ever be if we keep on living in such large numbers.

So you understand that there's too many of us? Profitable for capitalism, not for the planet or our future. Seems all our problems go back to the same issue. Capitalism.

However thinking we couldn't do any better is just a hindrance to those who know we can.Your going to instinctively vote/support dickheads like Abbott who want to continue doing the same things and tell us they want to make it as comfortable as possible, rather than supporting those who really want to fix the issues.

Pessimism and defeatism are two things you should lose your right to vote over.

 

[Tulip]

So you understand that there's too many of us? Profitable for capitalism, not for the planet or our future. Seems all our problems go back to the same issue. Capitalism.

However thinking we couldn't do any better is just a hindrance to those who know we can.Your going to instinctively vote/support dickheads like Abbott who want to continue doing the same things and tell us they want to make it as comfortable as possible, rather than supporting those who really want to fix the issues.

Pessimism and defeatism are two things you should lose your right to vote over.

Rubbish. People always cite voting Abbott, something that I did, when the alternative was voting for a proven failure and embarrassment in Rudd.

I'm a minimalistic person, I have no ambitions to be unreasonably rich. I just want to be comfortable.

What I'm saying is that every ****ing revolution that happens is so glorious, until capitalism is reformed and slavery starts all over again.

 

[little graham]

Rubbish. People always cite voting Abbott, something that I did, when the alternative was voting for a proven failure and embarrassment in Rudd.

Most people who didn't want to vote for Rudd, voted independent or informal, few went to Abbott. If less sheep listened to Abbott years of propaganda ,racism, fear mongering and intolerance and less media fueled Rudd and his vindictiveness, we'd still have Gillard. She introduced some of most humane legislation any Australian leader, ever has.

If that alone does not tell you there's something fundamentally wrong with the system?

What I'm saying is that every ******* revolution that happens is so glorious, until capitalism is reformed and slavery starts all over again.

Capatlists went to war to maintain slavery. Slaughtered their own sons in the hundreds of thousands to maintain slavery.

NIkE facebook, apple etc etc all still rely on slavery to put their products on the market at a price you can afford.

 

[little graham]

 

[neroblack]

Don't worry mate, we get it. You don't want to work hard, and want everything handed to you by the people who do. Good luck with that.

 

[little graham]

Don't worry mate, we get it. You don't want to work hard, and want everything handed to you by the people who do. Good luck with that.

So who do you work for? What bank/corporation do you have to line the pockets of first before you can provide for you and your family and what the phuq do they do for you and the future of children?

 

[Tulip]

Most people who didn't want to vote for Rudd, voted independent or informal, few went to Abbott. If less sheep listened to Abbott years of propaganda ,racism, fear mongering and intolerance and less media fueled Rudd and his vindictiveness, we'd still have Gillard. She introduced some of most humane legislation any Australian leader, ever has.

If that alone does not tell you there's something fundamentally wrong with the system?





Capatlists went to war to maintain slavery. Slaughtered their own sons in the hundreds of thousands to maintain slavery.

NIkE facebook, apple etc etc all still rely on slavery to put their products on the market at a price you can afford.

The same small parties who got Ricky Muir elected through preference?