Traded #30: Patrick Ryder - Returns to the club as Indigenous Player Development Manager

[Despair]

You might want to talk to an employment lawyer before making bold statements like that.

Brb teleconferencing with my lawyer before every post on a football forum rofl

 

[DonsRule]

WTF?!?!?!

So I've had a busy week at work and basically copped a 'Ryder's GOOOOONNNNEE' text from a mate & just stumbled upon this news in the last day or so - I haven't read through the whole thread ins and outs but seriously, can someone here summarise where we are at so far with Ryder?! Dot points preferred Is he in fact out of here?!

Ryder considering going to Brisbane (or SYdney/GWS)
Wife not happy. (Rumors say)

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I've been trying to keep up but didn't WADA state is was under S0 because of lack of approval.

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/2013-04/wada-statement-on-substance-aod-9604#.VAlAXUvGC2w


and hasn't it now been approved in USA by a government health authority?

no it's still WADA banned, because approval hasn't been granted by governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use., ie GRAS doesn't qualify.

Also, GRAS is a pretty base level safety status, and putting small amounts in food is different do injecting larger doses but we digress

 

[Don Won]

The worst part about Paddy possibly leaving is that I just changed my username.

Meh, don't sweat it. If it happens just swap the D & g around, and change 'Ryder' to 'Connors'.

 

[Don Won]

WTF?!?!?!

So I've had a busy week at work and basically copped a 'Ryder's GOOOOONNNNEE' text from a mate & just stumbled upon this news in the last day or so - I haven't read through the whole thread ins and outs but seriously, can someone here summarise where we are at so far with Ryder?! Dot points preferred Is he in fact out of here?!

• required player
• the end

 

[Jade]

WTF?!?!?!

So I've had a busy week at work and basically copped a 'Ryder's GOOOOONNNNEE' text from a mate & just stumbled upon this news in the last day or so - I haven't read through the whole thread ins and outs but seriously, can someone here summarise where we are at so far with Ryder?! Dot points preferred Is he in fact out of here?!

- A rule change was implemented in June, but does not take effect until November, that allows a player to be considered a delisted free agent if he is able to prove his club breached his contract.
- Ryder is rumoured to want out of the club, preferably to Brisbane.
- Ryders manager, Paul Connors is apparently using this breach of contract threat to force the Bombers to release Ryder to Brisbane for an 'unders' trade.

That's it in a nutshell.

Personally, making the assumption that it IS Ryders intent to move on I think its a piss poor excuse to leverage more cash.

And proving breach of contract is no easy thing if Essendon is set on fighting it. Ultimately, if the parties can not agree that a breach occurred (and one or both parties insist on continuing up the hierarchy of jurisdiction), only a court can determine a breach occurred. NOT the AFL.

 

[Zach Package]

Don't underestimate Connors' part in this (I think this is more driven by him than Paddy's missus if I'm to be perfectly frank). This is a man who essentially went to the media with 'Dustin Martin has quit Richmond', when in-fact martin had done nothing of the sort and never really looked like he actually wanted to leave.

Not saying Paddy doesn't have concerns, but for all we know Ryder has given Connors a clip over the ear and is now seeking out a new manager.

 

[Kong]

I can't tell anyone what to do, but it'd be good to see people putting this stuff to the side until our finals campaign is over.

Heck, that could be tomorrow night; 24 hours (or a few weeks) isn't too long.

We've been waiting 3 years to play finals again.

We've been waiting 10 years to win a final again.

We've had 18 of the most agonising months an AFL supporter has had to endure, including having the finals taken away from us during our best season in recent memory.

Focus on that.

Worry about this other stuff later, when the actual footy's over.

 

[Halloween Jack]

Don't underestimate Connors' part in this (I think this is more driven by him than Paddy's missus if I'm to be perfectly frank). This is a man who essentially went to the media with 'Dustin Martin has quit Richmond', when in-fact martin had done nothing of the sort and never really looked like he actually wanted to leave.

Not saying Paddy doesn't have concerns, but for all we know Ryder has given Connors a clip over the ear and is now seeking out a new manager.

hey Jack, so you know Connors wasn't Dusty Martin's manager

 

[Zach Package]

hey Jack, so you know Connors wasn't Dusty Martin's manager

Huh, right you are. Wonder how i confused Connors with Carr. Rest of the post still holds, Connors is a conniving dick

 

[CourtzMajora]

I can't tell anyone what to do, but it'd be good to see people putting this stuff to the side until our finals campaign is over.

Heck, that could be tomorrow night; 24 hours (or a few weeks) isn't too long.

We've been waiting 3 years to play finals again.

We've been waiting 10 years to win a final again.

We've had 18 of the most agonising months an AFL supporter has had to endure, including having the finals taken away from us during our best season in recent memory.

Focus on that.

Worry about this other stuff later, when the actual footy's over.

Won't somebody please think of the finals!

 

[Slax]

Peter Gordon said this morning it would be a difficult things to prove. Contribute things like the player continued to play etc, there are a lot of technical details that may make it difficult. Not impossible but not as simple as some are making out if it was challanged.

I never said that it was a forgone conclusion that he could prove it and the fact they it has taken nearly 18 months for him to voice his concerns over long term health implications since the saga started tell me that it could be difficult for him.

But the legal problems for the AFL if someone did prove it would of been massive if they didn't give players a way to terminate contracts under such a set of cirucmstances.

 

[BrunoV]

They're acting like he had plutonium injected directly into his testicles.

Why would that have concerned him? Superhero offspring would have its benefits for both society and our father son recruiting.

 

[Mavlions1961]

Redden.

Not a chance. Harwood??

 

[Zach Package]

Not a chance. Harwood??

Needs Rockliff or Redden as a sweetener

 

[Mavlions1961]

Needs Rockliff or Redden as a sweetener

Still nice to dream, second round pick + Harwood

 

[Zach Package]

Still nice to dream, second round pick + Harwood

Still needs Rockliff or Redden as a sweetener. Ryder's not just best 22, he's best 2

 

[lysp]

WTF - is she that deluded?

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-of-a-club-off-the-rails-20140905-10d0l6.html

Essendon's blame game over Paddy Ryder another sign of a club off the rails

Having wasted yet another golden opportunity to put up its hand and take responsibility for the nightmare it has inflicted upon its footballers, Essendon instead chose the predictable path on Thursday of playing the man.

The club had two choices after Fairfax Media revealed that Paddy Ryder could depart the club mid-contract and move to the Brisbane Lions as a delisted free agent. One was to wrap its arms publicly and privately around Ryder and his disenchanted fiancee Jessica McDonald. The other was to point the finger at his manager.

The Bombers reverted to type and chose the blame game. It was a crazy and misguided choice. Not only did Essendon play the man, it played the wrong man.

Paul Connors is one of the game's most influential player managers, who, incidentally, looks after the contracts of several Essendon footballers. He is also one of the individuals least likely to benefit from the revelation of Ryder's issues on the eve of an elimination final.


... insert more dribble...

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Still nice to dream, second round pick + Harwood

Nice to dream that you will get Ryder with a second round pick+Harwood.

 

[Doss]

She is ****ing unbelievable.

Caro, just call it for what it is- you have about obsession on everything Essendon. It's not professional for you anymore, it's utterly personal.

 

[Kong]

Guys.

Finals. We're playing.

Come on. Bugger this stuff off for a while.

 

[Doss]

BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!, too far dude. Don't want to see that again.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!, too far dude. Don't want to see that again.

Sorry.

 

[yaco55]

No, you're criticised for making blanket statements without a shred of evidence.

Gee - Could have sworn that you made a post yesterday with a blanket statement - The relevance of my post is that when you marry early/have children early it can impact on your footy or where you play footy - Ryder is evidence enough.

 

[yaco55]

dislike.

they are human beings, not robots. Besides it goes both ways, many a flakey individual turned into a solid citizen.. and player once having a kid or partner.

do you prefer them to be stags getting out on the piss and drugs? or settling into life at an early age.

The point is that Mrs Ryder is pushing pressure on Ryder to leave the club - Fact - She should be grateful to the club who have nurtured Patrick as a person and as a player - How many have spouses earning 500K at the age of 26 - Ryder's partner should be thanking the club instead of throwing darts - i suggest she is ungrateful.