Mega Thread Dayne Beams trade (Its over, thread closed)

[rose jam]

Patfull would be good steak knives with Pick 4 and Aish - I'd take that if it's not dangerfield

 

[Shade]

Patfull wouldnt even get a game with us.

Frost Reid Brown Keffee would all be ahead of him

 

[swoop42]

Pick 4 and Mayes or get out the hell out of here.

If Brisbane aren't prepared to give up that for one of the games proven elite midfielders then they've got rocks in there head.

Mayes at present is nothing more than a promising second year player, playing for a bottom 4 side who's worth is seen as greater because he was taken within the top 10 in the 2012 draft.

Beams in his second season was good enough to force his way into a team that won the flag.

Pick 4 (5) could become a boom selection in time but could also be a complete bust.

Mayes is the same.

It's a fair deal, especially for Brisbane.

 

[The Pied Piper]

Apparently Beamer was p1ssed off we played all these Sunday twilight games in a row this year cos he couldn't get out on the gas on the Sat night beforehand with his mates all those weeks in a row.

 

[BEEG]

Patful to a Sydney club

Brisbane supporters can't believe his leaving and are trying to package up Leuy Merret and Patful for Boyd dead set hilarious

Patful might be the key in all of this to land a better pick

 

[HFF]

Really if we accept just pick 4 plus steak knives, the whole recruiting team should be exited from the club.

This will really test just how good "negotiators" these guys really are.

Botch this and it's rank amateur hour at our club at its finest.

 

[nahnah]

Don't understand why we'd cop all the blame if a deal can't be done, brisbane haven't been reasonable and have contributed to him being away from his father...

 

[Lion for Life]

If they think 4 is fair, we'll offer them 8 for Rockliff.

It's laughable because GWS wants a first rounder for O'Rourke yet Brisbane is only willing to part with a first rounder for Beams.

If they believe the talent pool is so good this year, then go to the draft and keep pick 4.

Just declare that they have no interest in Beams and would rather draft a 18yr old and that way it solves everyone's problems.

GWS may want a first rounder for O'rourke just like we did for Polec but that doesn't mean it will happen.

 

[danielnajdek]

Its amazing how Brisbane supporters just don't think his worth more then pick 4

Just because Slobbo on 360 tonight said Beams is not worth Hanley and pick 4 they are all up and about this man knows nothing about football

Robbo also said he wouldn't even take Beams over Hanley

 

[HeathySure]

Source?

Very highly doubt that our 2 x b&f would want out and even if he did there is no way that particulaFar trade would be in any way realistic

i read it somewhere and i cant find it now. was probably the rumour and trade page on Facebook which has a strike rate of about 10 percent correctness. But Beams is an All australian and B & F and premiership player . Patfull is 29, he doesnt have much currency

 

[ksardog]

That's not what he said - it was closer to "we can get a better deal from Brisbane", as in Beams (and by extension Connors) can get a fatter contract because Brisbane have more $$$ to throw around, whereas the Suns cap is starting to (and will continue) tighten as their plethora of young guns gradually start needing to be paid more in their next contract(s).

He said collingwood can get a better deal

 

[ksardog]

He also said 'for collingwoods sake it is better they deal with brisbane' . This some kind of veiled threat?

 

[DNine]

Might Levi Greenwood be a possibility for us for Beams. Perhaps not just Greenwood, but if North are not signing him up, I say give it a crack. He is a gun.

 

[DNine]

He also said 'for collingwoods sake it is better they deal with brisbane' . This some kind of veiled threat?

And no one thought to get him to explain his comment? God our Journo's are hopeless. Why would us dealing with a side that wants to just give us Pick 4 for him better?

 

[ksardog]

Might Levi Greenwood be a possibility for us for Beams. Perhaps not just Greenwood, but if North are not signing him up, I say give it a crack. He is a gun.

I mentioned in the trade page last year about greenwood, no one seemed that keen. A lot can change in a year. Wouldnt hav cost much at all last year, now it would

 

[Wooljay]

People, especially Brisbane Lions supporters, need to remember that Pick 4 is literally a guarantee of nothing. We have to demand a player in return who isn't a total scrub, considering Beams absolutely has the potential to be a top 5-8 player in the whole AFL.

Here are the number 4 draft picks from 2003-2011 (no point adding recent ones - too early to judge):

2003: Farren Ray
2004: Richard Tambling
2005: Josh Kennedy
2006: Matthew Leuenberger
2007: Cale Morton
2008: Hamish Hartlett
2009: Anthony Morabito
2010: Andrew Gaff
2011: Will Hoskin Elliott

Of those, you would seriously only consider 3 of those as part of a trade for Beams. I would only straight swap for Josh Kennedy and that's it.

Look at who else is on that list - Richard Tambling and Cale Morton. Two of the biggest draft disasters of contemporary football. There is no certainty to the draft, and no certainty to the injury prone nature of the players (Morabito) or the giant spudliness of them (Tambling/Morton).

THIS is why we need a player swap as well as a pick. I personally don't even care if we get pick 4 unless we're planning to on-trade it. Who gives a shit, it could end up being the next Richard Tambling for ****s sake.

 

[ksardog]

People, especially Brisbane Lions supporters, need to remember that Pick 4 is literally a guarantee of nothing. We have to demand a player in return who isn't a total scrub, considering Beams absolutely has the potential to be a top 5-8 player in the whole AFL.

Here are the number 4 draft picks from 2003-2011 (no point adding recent ones - too early to judge):

2003: Farren Ray
2004: Richard Tambling
2005: Josh Kennedy
2006: Matthew Leuenberger
2007: Cale Morton
2008: Hamish Hartlett
2009: Anthony Morabito
2010: Andrew Gaff
2011: Will Hoskin Elliott

Of those, you would seriously only consider 3 of those as part of a trade for Beams. I would only straight swap for Josh Kennedy and that's it.

Look at who else is on that list - Richard Tambling and Cale Morton. Two of the biggest draft disasters of contemporary football. There is no certainty to the draft, and no certainty to the injury prone nature of the players (Morabito) or the giant spudliness of them (Tambling/Morton).

THIS is why we need a player swap as well as a pick. I personally don't even care if we get pick 4 unless we're planning to on-trade it. Who gives a shit, it could end up being the next Richard Tambling for ****s sake.

Go close to swapping him for WHE. Future gun

 

[sirene]

I believed Dawes would stay;
I thought Thomas would stay;
I was blindsided by Shaw;
I believed Beams would stay....
Time I changed my avatar....I give up!

 

[Ketchup]

I mentioned in the trade page last year about greenwood, no one seemed that keen. A lot can change in a year. Wouldnt hav cost much at all last year, now it would

Not sure if hes worth what we would be giving up. If we can't get a quality player in with Beams, which is worst case scenario. We are in complete rebuild mode, not just partial rebuild like we are now. May aswell stick with the kids.

 

[DaicosianMarvels]

People, especially Brisbane Lions supporters, need to remember that Pick 4 is literally a guarantee of nothing. We have to demand a player in return who isn't a total scrub, considering Beams absolutely has the potential to be a top 5-8 player in the whole AFL.

Here are the number 4 draft picks from 2003-2011 (no point adding recent ones - too early to judge):

2003: Farren Ray
2004: Richard Tambling
2005: Josh Kennedy
2006: Matthew Leuenberger
2007: Cale Morton
2008: Hamish Hartlett
2009: Anthony Morabito
2010: Andrew Gaff
2011: Will Hoskin Elliott

Of those, you would seriously only consider 3 of those as part of a trade for Beams. I would only straight swap for Josh Kennedy and that's it.

Look at who else is on that list - Richard Tambling and Cale Morton. Two of the biggest draft disasters of contemporary football. There is no certainty to the draft, and no certainty to the injury prone nature of the players (Morabito) or the giant spudliness of them (Tambling/Morton).

THIS is why we need a player swap as well as a pick. I personally don't even care if we get pick 4 unless we're planning to on-trade it. Who gives a shit, it could end up being the next Richard Tambling for ****s sake.

I would love Gaff, he is a gun footballer and if he was a Brisbane player with the way things are going at the moment I would want him in a straight swap. He will be as good if not better than Beams by the time he retires but no one rates him as high as they should because he plays in Brisbane.

Then again, if he was a Brisbane player he would be untouchable as well.

 

[ksardog]

Not sure if hes worth what we would be giving up. If we can't get a quality player in with Beams, which is worst case scenario. We are in complete rebuild mode, not just partial rebuild like we are now. May aswell stick with the kids.

I wanted him last year, when he would of been cheap. Too costly now.

 

[jmac70]

Beams has really stuffed us up.

 

[Wooljay]

I would love Gaff, he is a gun footballer and if he was a Brisbane player with the way things are going at the moment I would want him in a straight swap. He will be as good if not better than Beams by the time he retires but no one rates him as high as they should because he plays in Brisbane.

Then again, if he was a Brisbane player he would be untouchable as well.

I would be absolutely amazed if Gaff even gets near Beams by the end of his career. If Beams stays fit in the next 2 years he'll win a Brownlow - I have very little doubt of that.

Beamer is a gun, and a match winner. Honestly he's one of the most complete damaging mids in the competition, and while Gaff is a highly skilled footballer I think we'd be getting short changed heavily if we straight swapped and didn't even receive a pick upgrade.

 

[Reykjavik]

Beams has really stuffed us up.

Yes. The final kick in the cojones from season 2014.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Yes. The final kick in the cojones from season 2014.

2014 ain't over yet