Any chance mick will fly to bail to talk to jaksch like everitt last year
If he does I hope he doesn't take a boogie board.
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If he does I hope he doesn't take a boogie board.
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In 3 weeks when trade period is actually finished and if we only get Jones, then yes you can think it is a bit of a failure. However, I highly doubt this would be the case.
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Heresay or fact?
I think that 26 is an accurate reflection of the fall in value of a 2nd year player who has played less than 10 games.
Plenty of similar examples DOC, Ben Jacobs. I don't really want to get in a bidding war with the Saints to give up anything higher. If we get Jones we don't really need him that badly and one of McKenzie/Keitel will probably still be there at 27.
Having said all that there are plenty of players who don't show much in their first 2 years - Josh Kennedy springs to mind. There are also plenty of first round busts. Suppose it comes back to how much Rogers rates him.
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Just reiterating what was supposedly 'reported' (speculated rather) from Channel 7. For what its worth - this is all just wishful thinking. I'd say band 5 (around pick 44) would be best we could hope for.
Then again... Pies somehow got Pick 20 for Wellingham (mainly due to Weagles terrible trading, I know) and with speculation Higgins could garner a 2nd rounder, its not unbelievable to think Waite (who may be offered similar $) could net us a Band 3 (27) Compensation.
We should get him to do a mini preseason at Collingwood given how unfit the new fitness guy said they were under Butters. Strange how an unfit side could win a premiership a couple of year before.
We were desperately bad at that point and he was our only player who could hold down a kp player without getting entirely squashed.
Plus it was a chance to give hawthorn the finger for thinking they could raid our list.
If they wanted a player, I'd rather swap Lucas tbh... just think Robbo (100+ games and a Best 22 player like it or not) has more value than Jones (66 gamer that hasn't really played that many good games and is outside their 22).
I would be just about happier to go Lucas<>Jones as we keep our 3rd that way. Any pick under 50 could hold value in this draft (unless you're GWS).
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Sounds about right but don't take it to the Dogs board.................you'd ruin their day/week/month etc
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We stood firm on Thornton and if faced with the situation again I would hope we'd do the same.
Perhaps if we were in a stronger position as a club we'd have entertained the trade but looking at our options we really had no choice.
Thornton had his detractors but he just about held a defense together by himself which is no mean feat, particularly when that wasn't the position most suited to him when he joined the club.
Who plays KPD if we get rid of Thornton when the Hawks come knocking? In 2006 (Hawthorn came to us at the end of that season) we had Bower, Livingston, Setanta, Saddington, Teague, Waite and Whitnall on the senior list, and Flint on the rookie list, as alternatives to Thornton. One glance at that list of names is all it takes for me to be very comfortable with the club's decision not to acquiesce to Hawthorn's request of a 2nd and 3rd round pick.
We were comfortable letting Thornton go for the right price, and the Hawks named their price. The two were quite different, the clubs were unable to meet somewhere in between, so Thornton stayed a Blue.
Perhaps if we were in a stronger position as a club we'd have entertained the trade but looking at our options we really had no choice.
Thornton had his detractors but he just about held a defense together by himself which is no mean feat, particularly when that wasn't the position most suited to him when he joined the club.
Who plays KPD if we get rid of Thornton when the Hawks come knocking? In 2006 (Hawthorn came to us at the end of that season) we had Bower, Livingston, Setanta, Saddington, Teague, Waite and Whitnall on the senior list, and Flint on the rookie list, as alternatives to Thornton. One glance at that list of names is all it takes for me to be very comfortable with the club's decision not to acquiesce to Hawthorn's request of a 2nd and 3rd round pick.
We were comfortable letting Thornton go for the right price, and the Hawks named their price. The two were quite different, the clubs were unable to meet somewhere in between, so Thornton stayed a Blue.
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I wouldn't wait around to see what happens with Robinson.
He's as good as out anyway and if we ticked a deal of Robisnon for Jones off on Monday, then fine and we can move on.
Was also behind Stewart and even McCarthy at the end of the season. He's played 7 games in 2 years, I think Docherty had played more, was also a pick 12 and cost us a second rounder behind this years. So I reckon if we were to give up our first pick for him we'd need bloody sharp steak knives with it.
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If we get Jaksch in a good trade I will be fairly happy.
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Honestly if Jaksch gets to St Kilda via the Saints overpaying then so be it.
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And Boyd next year
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The Lyons from Adelaide trade talk has gone quiet for weeks - hope this is still on the table.
Bringing in Lyons (young mid), Jones (young KPF) and Jaksch (yound KPD) and still having a couple of picks under 20 would be a top shelf trade period for the second year in a row.
Bringing in Lyons (young mid), Jones (young KPF) and Jaksch (yound KPD) and still having a couple of picks under 20 would be a top shelf trade period for the second year in a row.
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Sorry?You still don't know the difference
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You still don't know the difference between hearsay and fact
I agree J, that was a victory of sorts when victories were not our forte.
There was a time when T-Bird and Livo looked like not only the cornerstone of a good defence, but a good side. It was a short time admittedly.
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He was our best defender (read only defender) at the time.
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From what I see with my own eyes.......Waite, Garlett, Lucas and Bootsma were all very poor trainers.
Grigg, Hampson and McCarthy also found it difficult to push through pain barriers.
Waite apparently hid under injury to not train at times.............so I've been told.
Robinson though worked very hard on the field, at least.
Yarran didn't push himself very hard either but really picked up the rating this year.
When you watch guys like Judd, Kreuzer, Curnow, Bell, Carrazzo, Simpson, Walker, Armfield, Ellard etc you know where the standard should be.
I was very pleased to see just how hard the newbies in Cripps, Holman, Sheehan and Byrne pushed themselves in their first year.
When you have the kids showing up the seniors, it can only bode well for the squad as a whole.
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