Mega Thread Hot Topic - Drugs and AFL

[Holden Hillbilly]

Dear blindly loyal follower


If you are reading this, the worst has happened and we have lost the Federal Court challenge.


Our enemies, the AFL, the media, ASADA and my next-door neighbor Phil, will be busy celebrating, which is why we must strike now.


more: http://titusoreily.com/james-hird-instructions-event-federal-court-loss/

 

[Grave Danger]

Hird appeal dismissed. No surprises there.

So all these reports of Hird's lawyers telling him they had a strong chance of success turned out to be bullshit.

Hope he hasn't spent all that year-in-advance salary he got last year; costs won't be cheap. Perhaps little uncle Paul will help him out...

 

[Ford Fairlane]

There are no losers if lawyers make money.

 

[Grave Danger]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 1m 1 minute ago
Will be interesting to see if Hird seeks special leave for a High Court appeal.


Given the campaigner's form to date, you'd think he would.

 

[MrMeaner]

There are no losers if lawyers make money.

Indeedy doo.

 

[Jim Dixon]

A pity, if Hird had won, Essendon would have have been stuck with him forever, and our Angus and our Paddy would be free and clear. But I never thought that was going to happen.

Whoever wins at the tribunal, it will be appealed, I would have thought.

 

[Grave Danger]

There's been one of those click bait links on various news sites recently declaring James Hird to be the new Lindy Chamberlain. More like the new Lance Armstrong.

 

[MrMeaner]

There's been one of those click bait links on various news sites recently declaring James Hird to be the new Lindy Chamberlain. More like the new Lance Armstrong.

Except Lance finally admitted doing something wrong.

 

[Grave Danger]

Except Lance finally admitted doing something wrong.

As Hird will do on an exclusive Australian Story episode. In 2022.

 

[Quadzilla]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 1m 1 minute ago
Will be interesting to see if Hird seeks special leave for a High Court appeal.


Given the campaigner's form to date, you'd think he would.

I thought he'd gone as far as he could in Australian courts?

 

[Grave Danger]

I thought he'd gone as far as he could in Australian courts?

This was in the Federal Court, next rung up is the High Court. After that he might consider the International Court on Human Rights. Failing all else, there's Judge Judy

 

[tribey]

This was in the Federal Court, next rung up is the High Court. After that he might consider the International Court on Human Rights. Failing all else, there's Judge Judy

Isn't there an International Court of Arbitration for Sport? The same one footballers in transfer wrangles and swimmers who take their coaches wives' headache tablets go to?

 

[Grave Danger]

Isn't there an International Court of Arbitration for Sport? The same one footballers in transfer wrangles and swimmers who take their coaches wives' headache tablets go to?

This latest reaming for Hird was just on points of law, I doubt that ICAS would have any jurisdiction over the decision. The outcome of the current Tribunal process is a different story though.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Hird was in court because he said Asada broke Australian law. CAS only has jurisdiction over the Wada code. It also acts as a court/mediation process when some one argues a sports law/rule has been broken. Break a sports sponsorship contract and that goes thru the courts and not CAS as a contract breach isnt a breach of sports law its a breach of contract law.

 

[Power Raid]

This was in the Federal Court, next rung up is the High Court. After that he might consider the International Court on Human Rights. Failing all else, there's Judge Judy

I would go straight to the top!

Dear Judy, I have been hard done by.......and people are saying I'm not the messiah but just a very naught boy. Please make them stop!

 

[Grave Danger]

I would go straight to the top!

Dear Judy, I have been hard done by.......and people are saying I'm not the messiah but just a very naught boy. Please make them stop!

Johnny Rotten had a win on Judge Judy!

 

[blaargh]

If Hird keeps fighting, and let's say it lasts into the season - will the players remain provisionally suspended?

 

[Killer Power]

If Hird keeps fighting, and let's say it lasts into the season - will the players remain provisionally suspended?

After Essendon and Hird lost round 1 the tribunal proceeded and hasn't halted for his appeal, they will play on regardless of his next step.

 

[blaargh]

After Essendon and Hird lost round 1 the tribunal proceeded and hasn't halted for his appeal, they will play on regardless of his next step.

Thanks for that, I have totally lost track/interest in the process!

 

[Hardcore]

The players will and they will salute and say " hail hydra"

 

[raptalia]

The link below is interesting. Apparently the NFL have a set schedule of penalties for PED abuse. It makes the possible two year ban that ASADA have waved around seem a little harsh.

Under the recently agreed codes, 'using steroids or stimulants or other banned substance in the NFL' attracts a four game suspension on first offence.

A player needs three violations to attract a two year ban.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24712879/nfl-nflpa-finalize-drug-testing-program

 

[SwampRat]

There are no losers if lawyers make money.

Except for society.

 

[Doctor Feel]

someone needs to shoop hird into this

 

[SwampRat]

The link below is interesting. Apparently the NFL have a set schedule of penalties for PED abuse. It makes the possible two year ban that ASADA have waved around seem a little harsh.

Under the recently agreed codes, 'using steroids or stimulants or other banned substance in the NFL' attracts a four game suspension on first offence.

A player needs three violations to attract a two year ban.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24712879/nfl-nflpa-finalize-drug-testing-program

The NFL stance is pathetic. 3 violations for a 2 year ban? Give me a break. In the NFL you can get caught taking roids and get a few weeks off. It's worth the risk for players to do it.

 

[chiwigi]

The NFL stance is pathetic. 3 violations for a 2 year ban? Give me a break. In the NFL you can get caught taking roids and get a few weeks off. It's worth the risk for players to do it.

They already do. There's no extra incentive.