The Off-Season Thread (Luke Ridnour destination watch)

[tigs2010]

Lol...

It's funny because it's half true :-D

2/60?

 

[Gus Poyet]

2 of those 4 big men he took in the second round (picks 47 and 60) he just swapped for a guard that went at number 8 last year. I'd say that's a pretty good result. And one of the remaining 2 big guys he traded for 2 future second rounders, which can be used either in the draft or as part of trade.

So all up I'd say he did pretty well with all those second rounders.

I guess if you consider 4.4ppg at 36% a good result I can't argue with that.

 

[Vincent Chase]

i just found out amanda boyd and jason dufner are divorced. and perhaps tiger is the reason.

here's amanda

I'm shocked to be here.

Primetime Pricey Vincent Chase



Lel

DWill 2.0

So Fields and DWill?

Knicks gonna knick.

 

[Dez!]

I guess if you consider 4.4ppg at 36% a good result I can't argue with that.

He was a rookie in a shambles of a franchise, you bringing up stats is stupid.

Good trade for the 76ers.

 

[Hipster Doofus]

I guess if you consider 4.4ppg at 36% a good result I can't argue with that.

He's going to be very clever and very useful for the right team. 76's have gotten away with highway robbery.
Take your bland cynicism elsewhere.

 

[Son of Skeletor]

There is no other way right now.

Would signing We$ placate the anger?

 

[Hipster Doofus]

Would signing We$ placate the anger?

Off an achilles? No. This time two years ago before we had invested in two young shooting guards? Yes.
I think he'd be perfect with the Raptors anyway.

 

[Hipster Doofus]

We have gone early though, we now have to do something and throw money and faith at someone otherwise this ****-up becomes even more of a joke. I'm not sure what the best plausible outcome would be. Lawson?

 

[Gus Poyet]

He's going to be very clever and very useful for the right team. 76's have gotten away with highway robbery.
Take your bland cynicism elsewhere.

Yes, because people can't have opinions on players. Let's all rate all players as wonderful to avoid cynicism.

It is odd though that given your cynical rants in the last few pages you'd chastise others.

 

[Gus Poyet]

He was a rookie in a shambles of a franchise, you bringing up stats is stupid.

Good trade for the 76ers.

I consider him having gone to a shambles of a franchise, so what changes?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I actually wouldnt he surprised if Rondo has a good season next year. He just doesnt fit at the Kings with their lack of shooters

Rondo is done.

I'll put you down as voting for Dirk

Chuck me in for Dirk aswell pal. peternorth who ended up winning that Dirk vs STAT vs C-Webb debate of the mid 2000s?

 

[djrossie16]

as shambolic as Philly was they got more wins than the knicks
i'll see myself out

 

[BEEG]

If Jordan stays with the Clippers could we see an Amare and Dirk starting front court next season? Surely then we can settle the debate

L2M4G If that happens I will bash Cubans head in with a basketball pump

 

[Hipster Doofus]

Yes, because people can't have opinions on players. Let's all rate all players as wonderful to avoid cynicism.

It is odd though that given your cynical rants in the last few pages you'd chastise others.

There is a difference between writing off a rookie who barely got a chance and you have no idea about, and a fan venting deserved frustration at a franchise making humiliating mistakes which throws it's direction and identity under the bus for the umpteenth time.
Be objective.

 

[Son of Skeletor]

Off an achilles? No. This time two years ago before we had invested in two young shooting guards? Yes.
I think he'd be perfect with the Raptors anyway.

I like We$ a lot more for you than I do Rondo or Monta - you need a floor spacer, not another ball-dominant shot creator.

Say you sign Wes - that gives you the ability to go small - Collison/McLemore/We$/Rudy/Boogie - or big - Collison/We$/Rudy/WCS/Boogie.

Either way you have at least two or three competent shooters on the floor at all times.

The other factor is that you have three core guys locked in at 2014 prices for the immediate future - Boogie's a steal at his price. You can afford to overpay for someone like We$, although I wouldn't be as bullish about Rondo. In fact I'd wager Boogie's the entire reason that you're doing this - playoffs or bust.

I don't think those pick swaps will ever eventuate either - it's a top-10 protected pick you're paying, a bit like how the Dubs gave Utah two firsts in order to clear room to sign Iggy. You need to make sure you sign an Iggy - to me that's Wes Matthews.

 

[stewie griffen]

as shambolic as Philly was they got more wins than the knicks
i'll see myself out

 

[L Dizz]

I guess if you consider 4.4ppg at 36% a good result I can't argue with that.

Well I think he's more likely to turn it around than either of the blokes he was traded for are to even average those numbers. So yeah, I consider it a good result.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

After watching Rondo and Ellis torpedo Dallas, one struggles to comprehend how a team could willingly try to pair them again. It's baffling.

 

[Gus Poyet]

There is a difference between writing off a rookie who barely got a chance and you have no idea about, and a fan venting deserved frustration at a franchise making humiliating mistakes which throws it's direction and identity under the bus for the umpteenth time.
Be objective.

I am, I never rated him that highly out of college. I have yet to see anything in the NBA to change my mind. Of course if all of a sudden he starts shooting lights out then i'll be happy to change my opinion of him.

 

[Hipster Doofus]

I like We$ a lot more for you than I do Rondo or Monta - you need a floor spacer, not another ball-dominant shot creator.

Say you sign Wes - that gives you the ability to go small - Collison/McLemore/We$/Rudy/Boogie - or big - Collison/We$/Rudy/WCS/Boogie.

Either way you have at least two or three competent shooters on the floor at all times.

The other factor is that you have three core guys locked in at 2014 prices for the immediate future - Boogie's a steal at his price. You can afford to overpay for someone like We$, although I wouldn't be as bullish about Rondo. In fact I'd wager Boogie's the entire reason that you're doing this - playoffs or bust.

I don't think those pick swaps will ever eventuate either - it's a top-10 protected pick you're paying, a bit like how the Dubs gave Utah two firsts in order to clear room to sign Iggy. You need to make sure you sign an Iggy - to me that's Wes Matthews.

The big overseeing problem as I see it is that we're not the Warriors (and Wes isn't Iggy, plus his unfortunate injury). What are we exactly aiming for?
Undre Malone I could see what we were building towards and with who. I'm clueless right now.
If it's all for an improbable 8th seed in a desperate attempt to keep Boogie on board then we'll be right back where we are now within a couple of years.
I just don't see it.
Believe me if we sign Rondo or Eliis or even both I can see the talent that is obvious to blind freddy but it would be an absolute mess with no long term direction. And as a fan of Sacramento the overriding thing that was needed was direction. Being aggressive is one thing but this just looks like a mistake.

 

[stewie griffen]

I dont overly rate Stauskas either

But that trade is highway robbery

You can justify it if you are the Warriors trading first rounders to sign Iggy and swing for a title, but the Kings?

 

[Hipster Doofus]

I am, I never rated him that highly out of college. I have yet to see anything in the NBA to change my mind. Of course if all of a sudden he starts shooting lights out then i'll be happy to change my opinion of him.

Fair.

 

[Dez!]

I consider him having gone to a shambles of a franchise, so what changes?

Philly are fine, they're collecting some very good assets and they've got some very good building blocks for the future in Noel/Okafor and Embiid if he gets healthy.

Saric is something else they have up there sleeve when he comes over.

If the Lakers don't get a top 3 pick next then Philly also has that coming to them as well.

Hinkie is doing fine IMO.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Philly are a complete joke. They are making a mockery of the league.

 

[Gus Poyet]

Philly are fine, they're collecting some very good assets and they've got some very good building blocks for the future in Noel/Okafor and Embiid if he gets healthy.

Saric is something else they have up there sleeve when he comes over.

If the Lakers don't get a top 3 pick next then Philly also has that coming to them as well.

Hinkie is doing fine IMO.

And what about their fans? They are taking the piss out of them.

Expecting them to pay good money to go watch D-League standard basketball at times.

Its one thing to suck and get top draft pick after draft pick, but you need to build a winning culture as you go along or all of the players you draft along the way will jump ship the first chance they get.