2014 Draftees versus 2015 Draftees

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Who do you think will be the better players?
I have also done in interest of fairness have incorporated player bidding, where each player should have been taken if new bidding system was introduced last year

1 Weitering versus McCartin
2 Schache versus Heeney
3 Mills versus Petracca
4 Oliver versus Brayshaw
5 Parish versus Moore
6 Francis versus Pickett
7 Hopper versus De Goey
8 Ah Chee versus Marchbank
9 Weideman versus Ahern
10 Harry McKay versus Wright
11 Milera versus Cockatoo
12 Curnow versus Duggan
13 Kennedy versus Ellis
14 Hipwood versus Weller
15 Rioli versus Lever
16 Himmelberg versus Garlett
17 Doedee versus Steele
18 Gresham versus Durdin
19 Burton versus Langford
20 Fiorini versus Boekhorst
21 Ben McKay versus Laverde
22 Lovell versus Goddard
23 Cunningham versus McKenzie

My opinion on who will become the better player and just my opinion

1 Weitering over McCartin. Hard one
2 Isaac Heeney over Scahche
3 Mills over Petracca
4 Brayshaw over Oliver
5 Darcy Moore over Parish
6 Jarrod Pickett over Francis
7 Jacob Hopper over De Goey
8 Cal Ah Chee over Marchbank
9 Paul Ahern over Weideman
10 Peter Wright over Harry McKay
11 Cockatoo over Milera
12 Charlie Curnow over Duggan
13 Matthew Kennedy over Corey Ellis
14 Lachie Weller over Hipwood
15 Daniel Rioli over Lever
16 Himmelberg over Garlett
17 Jack Steele over Doedee
18 Jade Gresham over Durdin
19 Kyle Langford over Burton
20 Fiorini over Boekhorst
21 Laverde over Ben McKay
22 Lovell over Goddard
23 Cunningham over McKenzie
 
gillo94 said:
Who do you think will be the better players?
I have also done in interest of fairness have incorporated player bidding, where each player should have been taken if new bidding system was introduced last year

1 Weitering versus McCartin
2 Schache versus Heeney
3 Mills versus Petracca
4 Oliver versus Brayshaw
5 Parish versus Moore
6 Francis versus Pickett
7 Hopper versus De Goey
8 Ah Chee versus Marchbank
9 Weideman versus Ahern
10 Harry McKay versus Wright
11 Milera versus Cockatoo
12 Curnow versus Duggan
13 Kennedy versus Ellis
14 Hipwood versus Weller
15 Rioli versus Lever
16 Himmelberg versus Garlett
17 Doedee versus Steele
18 Gresham versus Durdin
19 Burton versus Langford
20 Fiorini versus Boekhorst
21 Ben McKay versus Laverde
22 Lovell versus Goddard
23 Cunningham versus McKenzie

My opinion on who will become the better player and just my opinion

1 Weitering over McCartin. Hard one
2 Isaac Heeney over Scahche
3 Mills over Petracca
4 Brayshaw over Oliver
5 Darcy Moore over Parish
6 Jarrod Pickett over Francis
7 Jacob Hopper over De Goey
8 Cal Ah Chee over Marchbank
9 Paul Ahern over Weideman
10 Peter Wright over Harry McKay
11 Cockatoo over Milera
12 Charlie Curnow over Duggan
13 Matthew Kennedy over Corey Ellis
14 Lachie Weller over Hipwood
15 Daniel Rioli over Lever
16 Himmelberg over Garlett
17 Jack Steele over Doedee
18 Jade Gresham over Durdin
19 Kyle Langford over Burton
20 Fiorini over Boekhorst
21 Laverde over Ben McKay
22 Lovell over Goddard
23 Cunningham over McKenzie
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Well Gold Coast got 3/4 picks then very happy if that turns out :)
 
princy_99 said:
Well Gold Coast got 3/4 picks then very happy if that turns out :)
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Hard to say. Even with Blues comparing every pick. Hard as player comparing I think will be good as well, McCartin and Duggan had to think about those and could be wrong too
Cunningham and McKenzie hard as haven't seen much of either so again could be wrong
 

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1: Weitering vs McCartin = McCartin
2: Schache vs Heeney = Heeney
3: Mills vs Petracca = Petracca
4: Oliver vs Brayshaw = Brayshaw
5: Parish vs Moore = Parish
6: Francis vs Pickett = Francis
7: Hopper vs De Goey = Hopper
8: Ah Chee vs Marchbank = Ah Chee
9: Weideman vs Ahern = Ahern
10: McKay vs Wright = Wright
11: Milera vs Cockatoo = Milera
12: Curnow vs Duggan = Duggan
13: Kennedy vs Ellis = Kennedy
14: Hipwood vs Weller = Weller
15: Rioli vs Lever = Lever
16: Himmelberg vs Garlett = Garlett
17: Doedee vs Steele = Steele
18: Gresham vs Durdin = Gresham
19: Burton vs Langford = Burton
20: Fiorini vs Boekhorst = Fiorini
21: McKay vs Laverde = Laverde
22: Lovell vs Goddard = Goddard
23: Cunningham vs McKenzie = McKenzie
 
TradeDraft said:
Why you say that? Moore had a very strong when he came into the AFL.
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Because I rate Parish as the #1 player in the 2015 draft class... and I think he'll become one of the best midfielders in the game. Moore is a great prospect, but I think as a midfielder Parish is going to become a much better player and be a star. Why else would I say it? Because I think Parish will be better.
 
12Chill said:
Because I rate Parish as the #1 player in the 2015 draft class... and I think he'll become one of the best midfielders in the game. Moore is a great prospect, but I think as a midfielder Parish is going to become a much better player and be a star. Why else would I say it? Because I think Parish will be better.
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Midfielders are more Sure Bets then Talls but I rate Moore as becoming something very Special.

I also Reckon Parish will become a Gun Midfielder.

Though why was Moore put at Pick 5 when that was De Goey's Pick

It should be Moore vs Weildman?
 
1: Weitering vs McCartin = Weitering, watching him play, one of the best defenders ive ever seen at his age
2: Schache vs Heeney = Heeney, got the class and skill to take out the brownlow
3: Mills vs Petracca = Petracca, Big and Powerful mid with huge goal kicking potential
4: Oliver vs Brayshaw = Brayshaw, a polished and more complete mid thats already shown the signs
5: Parish vs Moore = Moore, shown really promising signs for a KPF in his debut season with good kicking
6: Francis vs Pickett = Francis, Powerful 3rd tall with a great leap and marking ability
7: Hopper vs De Goey = De Goey, a really hard choice but De Goey has the extra polish and the hieght
8: Ah Chee vs Marchbank = Ah Chee, excitement machine over a defender lacking a few skills
9: Weideman vs Ahern = Ahern, uber polished mid with good skills and decent ball use, wiedeman wasnt overly impressive
10: McKay vs Wright = Wright, 2MP is literally a taller, powerful version of mckay
11: Milera vs Cockatoo = Milera, hard one but milera has decent skill set and could be a big x factor player
12: Curnow vs Duggan = Duggan, Pre-injury showed that he was capable at the afl level with the polish and efficiency to have a big career
13: Kennedy vs Ellis = Kennedy, really good hieght and weight combined with amazing athletic ability and ball winning ability
14: Hipwood vs Weller = Hipwood, versitile talented KPP with good marking and decent
15: Rioli vs Lever = Lever, expect Rioli to bust and lever could become a top Defender
16: Himmelberg vs Garlett = Garlett, Himmelbergs too raw and garletts will be given chances early
17: Doedee vs Steele = Steele, Steele has a decent ball winning ability and can be a high production mid with goal kicking skills
18: Gresham vs Durdin = Gresham, really good kicking and goal scoring mid with inside ball winning ability
19: Burton vs Langford = Langford, after a little development, could see him used as a tall inside mid
20: Fiorini vs Boekhorst = Fiorini, high posession midfielder who can find the ball and help his team move the ball up the ground
21: McKay vs Laverde = Laverde, expecting him to become one of essondons big names over the next few years.
22: Lovell vs Goddard = Lovell, uber powerful extractor who can run all day and win the ball at will
23: Cunningham vs McKenzie = Cunningham, quick and silky outside mid with a bit of ex factor
 
12Chill said:
1: Weitering vs McCartin = McCartin
2: Schache vs Heeney = Heeney
3: Mills vs Petracca = Petracca
4: Oliver vs Brayshaw = Brayshaw
5: Parish vs Moore = Parish
6: Francis vs Pickett = Francis
7: Hopper vs De Goey = Hopper
8: Ah Chee vs Marchbank = Ah Chee
9: Weideman vs Ahern = Ahern
10: McKay vs Wright = Wright
11: Milera vs Cockatoo = Milera
12: Curnow vs Duggan = Duggan
13: Kennedy vs Ellis = Kennedy
14: Hipwood vs Weller = Weller
15: Rioli vs Lever = Lever
16: Himmelberg vs Garlett = Garlett
17: Doedee vs Steele = Steele
18: Gresham vs Durdin = Gresham
19: Burton vs Langford = Burton
20: Fiorini vs Boekhorst = Fiorini
21: McKay vs Laverde = Laverde
22: Lovell vs Goddard = Goddard
23: Cunningham vs McKenzie = McKenzie
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No bias of course
 
1. Weitering > McCartin
2. Schache < Heeney
3. Mills < Petracca
4. Oliver < Brayshaw
5. Parish < Moore
6. Francis > Pickett
7. Hopper > De Goey
8. Ah Chee > Marchbank
9. Weideman > Ahern
10. McKay < Wright
11. Milera > Cockatoo
12. Curnow < Duggan
13. Kennedy > Ellis
14. Hipwood < Weller
15. Rioli < Lever
16. Himmelberg > Garlett
17. Doedee < Steele
18. Gresham > Durdin
19. Burton < Langford
20. Fiorini > Boekhorst
21. McKay < Laverde
22. Lovell < Goddard
23. Cunningham > McKenzie
 
1 Weitering versus McCartin
2 Schache versus Heeney
3 Mills versus Petracca
4 Oliver versus Brayshaw
5 Parish versus Moore
6 Francis versus Pickett
7 Hopper versus De Goey
8 Ah Chee versus Marchbank
9 Weideman versus Ahern
10 Harry McKay versus Wright
11 Milera versus Cockatoo
12 Curnow versus Duggan
13 Kennedy versus Ellis
14 Hipwood versus Weller
15 Rioli versus Lever
16 Himmelberg versus Garlett
17 Doedee versus Steele
18 Gresham versus Durdin
19 Burton versus Langford
20 Fiorini versus Boekhorst
21 Ben McKay versus Laverde
22 Lovell versus Goddard
23 Cunningham versus McKenzie
 

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TradeDraft said:
Midfielders are more Sure Bets then Talls but I rate Moore as becoming something very Special.

I also Reckon Parish will become a Gun Midfielder.

Though why was Moore put at Pick 5 when that was De Goey's Pick

It should be Moore vs Weildman?
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Nah read the OP, Gillo changed last year's order so the team has to pick the player where they're bid on like this year, so Heeney would move up to pick 2 because Melbourne bid pick 2 on him last year etc.

I rated Moore as 2nd best in the draft last year FYI. I just think Parish is going to be a bit better. Moore looks like being a star though.

GordonBlue said:
No bias of course
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No bias at all. However, it clearly makes sense I would rate the St Kilda players (McCartin, Goddard, D-Mac) highly because I've watched them closely all year long and other people may not have seen as much of them as I have. Personally I can't for the life of me see Lovell or Cunningham as better options than Goddard or McKenzie at all. Of course this may be due to me watching every single one of Goddard and McKenzie's matches and rating them higher because I've seen all of the exciting glimpses they've had to offer.

McCartin vs Weitering is a tougher one though, was very close to picking Weitering but ultimately the deciding factor for me was that I think McCartin will reach a higher ceiling as a key forward and generally they are rated as more valuable.
 
blueiris said:
What makes Heeney Better than Schache also pretty sure Petracca was pick 2 in the 2014 AFL Draft shouldn't Schache be Matched against him instead
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Gillo already explained why he changed the order. He evened up the draft orders since they had different F/S and Academy bidding systems, so he updated the 2014 draft order to an updated version which follows the new 2015 F/S and Academy system.
 
1 Weitering versus McCartin
2 Schache versus Heeney
3 Mills versus Petracca
4 Oliver versus Brayshaw
5 Parish versus Moore
6 Francis versus Pickett
7 Hopper versus De Goey
8 Ah Chee versus Marchbank
9 Weideman versus Ahern
10 Harry McKay versus Wright
11 Milera versus Cockatoo
12 Curnow versus Duggan
13 Kennedy versus Ellis
14 Hipwood versus Weller
15 Rioli versus Lever
16 Himmelberg versus Garlett
17 Doedee versus Steele
18 Gresham versus Durdin
19 Burton versus Langford
20 Fiorini versus Boekhorst
21 Ben McKay versus Laverde
22 Lovell versus Goddard
23 Cunningham versus McKenzie
 
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Yeah, I don'tr know gillo but I'd go:

1 Weitering versus McCartin.................Weitering. The better overall package.
2 Schache versus Heeney.....................Heeney. Guaranteed gun
3 Mills versus Petracca..........................50/50 Wait and see.
4 Oliver versus Brayshaw......................Brayshaw. Although may not be as dynamic, he'll be there every week.
5 Parish versus Moore...........................Moore, but not because he's up against Parish but because he may just be better than anyone here. Future gun.
6 Francis versus Pickett........................50/50 Wait and see.
7 Hopper versus De Goey......................Hopper. He's a beast
8 Ah Chee versus Marchbank................??? I'll go Marchbank.
9 Weideman versus Ahern....................Weideman but without much confidence.
10 Harry McKay versus Wright..............Position dependent. Wright the better ruck...........McKay the better forward.
11 Milera versus Cockatoo.....................Cockatoo. Serious X
12 Curnow versus Duggan....................Duggan. Curnow with more X but Duggan with more certainty.
13 Kennedy versus Ellis........................50/50 Wait and see.
14 Hipwood versus Weller.....................?????
15 Rioli versus Lever.............................Lever by the length of 2 Flemington straights.
16 Himmelberg versus Garlett..............?????
17 Doedee versus Steele......................Really like Steele
18 Gresham versus Durdin...................Gresham early days, at least.
19 Burton versus Langford...................Health dependent.
20 Fiorini versus Boekhorst..................?????
21 Ben McKay versus Laverde...............Laverde has less question marks...............except for character :)
22 Lovell versus Goddard......................Hawthorn took Lovell...............then Lovell
23 Cunningham versus McKenzie..........?????
 
1: Weitering vs McCartin- Wietering
2: Schache vs Heeney = Schache
3: Mills vs Petracca = Mills
4: Oliver vs Brayshaw = Brayshaw
5: Parish vs Moore = Parish
6: Francis vs Pickett = Francis
7: Hopper vs De Goey = Hopper
8: Ah Chee vs Marchbank = Marchbank
9: Weideman vs Ahern = Weiderman
10: McKay vs Wright = Wright
11: Milera vs Cockatoo = Cockatoo
12: Curnow vs Duggan = Duggan
13: Kennedy vs Ellis = Kennedy
14: Hipwood vs Weller = Hipwood
15: Rioli vs Lever = Lever
16: Himmelberg vs Garlett = Garlett
17: Doedee vs Steele = Steele
18: Gresham vs Durdin = Gresham
19: Burton vs Langford = Burton
20: Fiorini vs Boekhorst = Fiorini
21: McKay vs Laverde = Laverde
22: Lovell vs Goddard=Lovell
23: Cunningham vs McKenzie=McKenzie
 
If it was head to head taken from a depth chart and you had to choose:

Tall forwards:
McCartin, Moore, Wright, Durdin
v
Schache, Weideman, H McKay, Himmelberg

Tall backs:
Marchbank, Lever, Goddard
v
Weitering, Hipwood, B McKay

Inside mids:
Heeney, Petracca, Brayshaw, DeGoey, Cockatoo, Duggan, Ellis, Steele
v
Mills, Oliver, Parish, Hopper, Kennedy, Gresham, Lovell

Outside mids/small forwards:
Pickett, Ahern, Weller, Garlett, Boekhorst, McKenzie
v
Ah Chee, Milera, Rioli, Fiorini, Cunnigham

Utilities:
Laverde, Langford
v
Francis, Curnow, Doedee, Burton

So breaking it down by position:
- Key forwards very early to tell. Probably call it a draw for now.
- I lean towards this years key defenders due to having the number 1 pick.
- Last years inside mids for sure, a deeper stronger group.
- I like this years collection of outside mids/small forwards but last years is a strong group as well, I'd call that a draw.
- More utility types taken this year, probably due to the lack of midfielders.
 
1: Weitering vs McCartin
2: Schache vs Heeney
3: Mills vs Petracca
4: Oliver vs Brayshaw
5: Parish vs Moore
6: Francis vs Pickett
7: Hopper vs De Goey
8: Ah Chee vs Marchbank
9: Weideman vs Ahern
10: McKay vs Wright
11: Milera vs Cockatoo
12: Curnow vs Duggan
13: Kennedy vs Ellis
14: Hipwood vs Weller
15: Rioli vs Lever
16: Himmelberg vs Garlett
17: Doedee vs Steele
18: Gresham vs Durdin
19: Burton vs Langford
20: Fiorini vs Boekhorst
21: McKay vs Laverde
22: Lovell vs Goddard
23: Cunningham vs McKenzie

Couple of ones that are really 'meh' at this stage.
 
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