Cameron Mooney - perspective

[Sttew]

I don't think any players scare anyone these days. I don't think Mooney did either.

I think Mooney's football between 2006 to 2009 was far more skilful and efficient than most would either admit or acknowledge. It suits the preconception that he was some kind of angry moron running around hitting people; but especially in those first two premiership years, he was a very good key forward. He presently very well up the ground (better than anyone we've had since), he converted well at goal, and he brought others into the game. That's what made him effective.

Podsiadly presented well up field.

 

[DanA]

I don't think any players scare anyone these days. I don't think Mooney did either.

I think Mooney's football between 2006 to 2009 was far more skilful and efficient than most would either admit or acknowledge. It suits the preconception that he was some kind of angry moron running around hitting people; but especially in those first two premiership years, he was a very good key forward. He presently very well up the ground (better than anyone we've had since), he converted well at goal, and he brought others into the game. That's what made him effective.

Hawkins is much better presenting IMO. So good he now has someone drop in front of him where as Mooney rarely warranted that sort of respect.


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[Bobby_]

Hawkins is much better presenting IMO. So good he now has someone drop in front of him where as Mooney rarely warranted that sort of respect.

that's because Mooney smashed the living shit out of anyone who dared drift in front of his leading path. Same issue with Barry Hall as not many chose to do it. And when those guys hit, they tried to kill a player and not just give them bruised ribs for a month.

Hawkins is a teddy bear. He actually makes Billy Brownless look a little intimidating by comparison.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

For 2015 it was. I'm not so sure it was for 2014. I'm sure we would have happily accepted 20 touches a game and 22 goals for the season from any small forward.

No, it wasn't the correct decision only in 2015. It was a correct decision which has been vindicated.

he wanted two years, rightfully so given he missed 67% of the 2013 season the club didn't accept that and he finished 2015 in the magoos. if he wanted to stay he could have accepted a 1yr deal. he wanted 2yr security and best of luck to him on that but the decision mad by the club was correct.

 

[Hinkley29]

Let me start by saying that Cameron Mooney was an absolute key player for us from 2004 until 2010. When he played well, we usually won. When he went off the rails (read: 2006), we usually struggled. In my mind, he and SJ were the ultimate barometers for how the team was going. Let me also say that he is one of my favourite Geelong players. I loved his passion, his work rate, his honesty - even his flaws made him seem more human than most players. I also think that he is one of the better ex-players in the media. He is articulate without being a w***er, he is insightful about the game without trying to make it seem like rocket science.

Having said all that, I need to get this off my chest.........Moons - stop talking about 2008.

It seems like every time I hear Mooney talking in the media, there is a very good chance that he is going to start talking about the 2008 GF. How he blames himself for the loss, how it took him ages to get over the loss, how it still haunts him. The thought process that he went through leading up to the miss before half-time. The taunting that he received from Campbell Brown et al when he hit the post just after half time. And so on and so forth.

At first it was refreshingly honest to hear a player talk about his greatest failure. And I guess that in a way it was cathartic for Moons to talk about it. But after the 763rd telling, I am over hearing about it.

I am sure that Moons doesn't want the 2008 GF to be the defining memory of his career. However, the more that he talks about it the more he is defined by it. Move on Moons, for your sake (and for the sake of all Geelong fans who are sick of hearing about 2008).

Rant over, thanks for reading.

 

[Frappe]

that's because Mooney smashed the living shit out of anyone who dared drift in front of his leading path. Same issue with Barry Hall as not many chose to do it. And when those guys hit, they tried to kill a player and not just give them bruised ribs for a month.

Hawkins is a teddy bear. He actually makes Billy Brownless look a little intimidating by comparison.

Mooney ran to the right spots as well. Not to say Tommy has no idea but Mooney had a very good football brain. He didn't get ganged up on as much as Hawkins in my opinion. Mind you when he did, he tried to hurt.

 

[Partridge]

Having said all that, I need to get this off my chest.........Moons - stop talking about 2008.

It seems like every time I hear Mooney talking in the media, there is a very good chance that he is going to start talking about the 2008 GF. How he blames himself for the loss, how it took him ages to get over the loss, how it still haunts him. The thought process that he went through leading up to the miss before half-time. The taunting that he received from Campbell Brown et al when he hit the post just after half time. And so on and so forth.

At first it was refreshingly honest to hear a player talk about his greatest failure. And I guess that in a way it was cathartic for Moons to talk about it. But after the 763rd telling, I am over hearing about it.

Could not agree more. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.

 

[catters05]

Let me start by saying that Cameron Mooney was an absolute key player for us from 2004 until 2010. When he played well, we usually won. When he went off the rails (read: 2006), we usually struggled. In my mind, he and SJ were the ultimate barometers for how the team was going. Let me also say that he is one of my favourite Geelong players. I loved his passion, his work rate, his honesty - even his flaws made him seem more human than most players. I also think that he is one of the better ex-players in the media. He is articulate without being a ******, he is insightful about the game without trying to make it seem like rocket science.

Having said all that, I need to get this off my chest.........Moons - stop talking about 2008.

It seems like every time I hear Mooney talking in the media, there is a very good chance that he is going to start talking about the 2008 GF. How he blames himself for the loss, how it took him ages to get over the loss, how it still haunts him. The thought process that he went through leading up to the miss before half-time. The taunting that he received from Campbell Brown et al when he hit the post just after half time. And so on and so forth.

At first it was refreshingly honest to hear a player talk about his greatest failure. And I guess that in a way it was cathartic for Moons to talk about it. But after the 763rd telling, I am over hearing about it.

I am sure that Moons doesn't want the 2008 GF to be the defining memory of his career. However, the more that he talks about it the more he is defined by it. Move on Moons, for your sake (and for the sake of all Geelong fans who are sick of hearing about 2008).

Rant over, thanks for reading.

Would be better if he spoke about 2009.

 

[Vdubs]

Could not agree more. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.

Yes.
Heard this AGAIN on SEN this am.
So much more to Mooney than that game.
His whole 07 was huge and fully deserving of AA, and a flag, for starters.

 

[Vdubs]

My favourite player of all time. By a long, long way!

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big hairy statement!

 

[MotlopMagic]

big hairy statement!

Haha! Always has been. He was the heart and soul of our greatest ever era (at least he was to me). So much man love for Cam [emoji106]

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[Vdubs]

Haha! Always has been. He was the heart and soul of our greatest ever era (at least he was to me). So much man love for Cam [emoji106]

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I certainly voted him our MVP in 07, which is a big deal given who we had firing.
But his indiscretions slightly diluted my personal love for him in his latter years. Slightly.
Can clearly get where you're coming from though. Lots to love about him.

 

[James1970]

Still believe Moons getting rid of the hairbun and net nearing the end of the 2009 season turned our fortunes around. He was far too focused on it after every set play. A rule for any man out there - avoid the hairbun. Just AVOID IT.

 

[sauron256]

There's an article on SuperFooty (Hun) today about Moons and his thoughts on missing out on 2011, that's a good read.

 

[JUBJUB]

There's an article on SuperFooty (Hun) today about Moons and his thoughts on missing out on 2011, that's a good read.

He's told that story before

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

There's an article on SuperFooty (Hun) today about Moons and his thoughts on missing out on 2011, that's a good read.

http://www.sen.com.au/news/12-15/mo...h-the-young-fella-hawkins#FmECB0CC8h3zc139.97

New senior coach Chris Scott had a decision to make on who would patrol the goal square in the finals and he chose the young Tom Hawkins over Mooney.

“I did the training leading into the finals and sat down with Scotty and I could see he had tears in his eyes – I thought I was going to come back into the side – and I was like ‘oh, this isn’t a good start’,” he explained.

“He goes, ‘mate I can’t go with you, I’m going to go with the young fella Hawkins I can’t give you a reason why, it’s just a gut feel’.

http://www.sen.com.au/news/12-15/mo...h-the-young-fella-hawkins#FmECB0CC8h3zc139.97

Therein lies a reason why I just don't rate our coach. It was the right call at the end of the day, but if you start selecting sides based on 'a gut feel,' your trading into dangerous territory.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Very good player. Supporters remember the biff but he was a very highly skilled player adept off either foot.

Like Jon Barnes, I loved that he gave it all and you were never left wondering.

A great favourite of mine.

 

[Goggin Our Best]

There's an article on SuperFooty (Hun) today about Moons and his thoughts on missing out on 2011, that's a good read.

Huge rap for Mooney as i have said previously

However just on 2011 - Mooney ( like any player would ) was very very keen to keep his spot in the team in the finals

There was a home game late in the season - and Mark McClure ( who i enjoy as a commentator - because he will ask direct questions - and if someone or a team is hopeless - he will say exactly that) - he was part of the ABC radio coverage of that game - and they interviewed Moons after the game - and McClure said to Mooney - theres one spot - its between you and Hawkins - and what are you going to do to keep Hawkins out of the side - Mooney agreed with that summation - and then gave a few reasons why he should get the nod - like he had the experience etc etc - so Moons was super keen to keep his spot

As for Chris Scott saying it was a gut feel - who cares - i couldnt care if his grand mother told him to give Hawkins the nod - it was a master stroke - thats all what matters

 

[Bobby_]

very highly skilled player adept off either foot.

extremely talented in this area.
I don't remember another player of his stature (6ft'5) having such sublime foot skills on either side of the body.
He would gather the ball and pin point these 30 metre left foot chip passes onto the chest of our forwards or midfielders.

Shame his set shot for goals were not in the same league but as they say, it's more of a mental challenge that side of the game.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

A couple of thoughts about Mooney:

• I've always thought he was a poor man's Richo (not just the goalkicking, but their whole playing style) and I mean that as a compliment.
• He is unfairly maligned because he made an AA team. I bet if he hadn't made that team in 2007, a lot of neutrals would remember him more fondly. It's ridiculous and Mooney is not the only player that has had the public perception of him as a player unfairly ranked by a somewhat fortunate AA selection.
• He's the opposite of a lot of other players that we think of: he's been called overrated for so long that I'd argue that his career is now underrated.
• I like him in the media, but he probably has to become a tad more critical of the Cats.

 

[Go Hoops]

Let me start by saying that Cameron Mooney was an absolute key player for us from 2004 until 2010. When he played well, we usually won. When he went off the rails (read: 2006), we usually struggled. In my mind, he and SJ were the ultimate barometers for how the team was going. Let me also say that he is one of my favourite Geelong players. I loved his passion, his work rate, his honesty - even his flaws made him seem more human than most players. I also think that he is one of the better ex-players in the media. He is articulate without being a ******, he is insightful about the game without trying to make it seem like rocket science.

Having said all that, I need to get this off my chest.........Moons - stop talking about 2008.

It seems like every time I hear Mooney talking in the media, there is a very good chance that he is going to start talking about the 2008 GF. How he blames himself for the loss, how it took him ages to get over the loss, how it still haunts him. The thought process that he went through leading up to the miss before half-time. The taunting that he received from Campbell Brown et al when he hit the post just after half time. And so on and so forth.

At first it was refreshingly honest to hear a player talk about his greatest failure. And I guess that in a way it was cathartic for Moons to talk about it. But after the 763rd telling, I am over hearing about it.

I am sure that Moons doesn't want the 2008 GF to be the defining memory of his career. However, the more that he talks about it the more he is defined by it. Move on Moons, for your sake (and for the sake of all Geelong fans who are sick of hearing about 2008).

Rant over, thanks for reading.

His primary source of income is as a media spruiker. He does whatever it takes to get ratings and coverage. Think we could reasonably say he's doing that. Far rather him than that shouting fool Maher.

 

[Vdubs]

A couple of thoughts about Mooney:

• I've always thought he was a poor man's Richo (not just the goalkicking, but their whole playing style) and I mean that as a compliment.
• He is unfairly maligned because he made an AA team. I bet if he hadn't made that team in 2007, a lot of neutrals would remember him more fondly. It's ridiculous and Mooney is not the only player that has had the public perception of him as a player unfairly ranked by a somewhat fortunate AA selection.
• He's the opposite of a lot of other players that we think of: he's been called overrated for so long that I'd argue that his career is now underrated.
• I like him in the media, but he probably has to become a tad more critical of the Cats.

Do you think most supporters of other teams, and even Geelong, really think about or recall that he was AA in 07?

 

[cats_09]

Do you think most supporters of other teams, and even Geelong, really think about or recall that he was AA in 07?

Those that comment on herald sun articles do...

 

[Vdubs]

Those that comment on herald sun articles do...

ok

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Do you think most supporters of other teams, and even Geelong, really think about or recall that he was AA in 07?

Yep. I reckon if you started a thread on the main board about him and neutrals memories of him as a player, the top four (in some order) would be:

• the fact that he 'robbed' Riewoldt/Lucas of a spot in the 2007 AA team (it was a line-ball call)
• his record at the tribunal
• his goalkicking in general, or his half time miss in the 2008 grand final, in particular
• the fact that he went statless in the 1999 grand final

It's not his fault anyway, but I think the fact that Mooney (and Harley also suffers from this) is considered overrated by so many others, is because Geelong players filled out about a third of the positions in the 07/08 AA teams and people tend to get a bug up their arse about that for some unknown reason. I could never have cared less, to be honest. Harley probably should have come closer to a couple of AA selections in the early 00s, but Geelong was a rabble then, so he didn't get a look in. I got over it.

Funnily enough, his tribunal record also played a part at the end of his career. He wasn't dropped from the 2011 finals: he got himself suspended and never forced his way back in. Would have been interesting if he hadn't whacked an Adelaide player in that late-season game: Hawkins still wasn't setting the world on fire at that stage.